Is First Corporate Services A Legit Company?

I am posting this job offer to get opinion from people the Company name is First Corporate Services which based is Switzerland. With this posting I will also, post the letter and my response to the person who represent this company. Here it is please, you can contact me direct thru my e-mail address is you wish at <deleted>

Dear Robert
Our Company is going to expand into the USA market now and you could not find more information about us. Unfortunately our web site is unavailable now because our advertising campaign starts a bit later. Because of our new business direction we are currently making a new design of site and clients service database. Our web site will be available when we start our advertising campaign.

If you would like to check our company legitimacy then please fell free to visit http://www.zefix.ch
or http://www.moneyhouse.ch
(Please will not forget select an English language). Please use our company's name or registration number to find us.
I also attached a copy of our company statement to my email. Some information is in foreign language therefore please use translator to understand it.


Monica Mitchell
Phone: 6468639612
Fax: 8882215044

On 07.06.2012 22:32, Robert Pabelico wrote:

Hello! Monica,
Appreciate your time sending me this job opportunity.
Before I accept the offer first I want to be sure I'm dealing with a
legitimate company.
I been receiving job offers online and to be honest with I also, have
bad experienced on some of them. Fortunately, I didn't lost money on
them because,
once I smelled something fishy I stopped communicating with them.
Going back to your offer, since we are doing this
online my first question is how can I be sure if I decide to accept your
job offer that I will really going to get paid? and on your part and the
company you're representing how can you be sure I'm the right person? Is
the company will be using my home address to send all the items? If so,
what about the expenses on supplies like, mileages on my car, shipping
tapes, gas on my car are all these will be covered?
I'm asking because I had a friend whom I know working
with a company with similar type of business. He receive packages in his
home address, inspect them, take pictures of them and make report to
company and then, the company will upload USPS postage for him to ship
the items overseas. I ask him about it and he told me that he get paid
every month but, since he started last May he hasn't receive his very
first check yet.
I just hope His dealing with a legit Company or he was
just used and then, the company will abandon him and move to another
prospect. But, he said he has an Agreement with the company that was
signed by the company's vice-President. so, according to him if this
company won't pay him he will take them to Court
for unpaid salary and his expenses shipping those Items.
I'm just saying this because I already seen a lot of
scams online and before I commit myself to any offer online I have to be
very careful of whom I dealing with. Hope you understand my concern .

Thank You,
Robert Pabelico
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On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Monica Mitchell
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello

You were interested to find more about Procurement Agent/
Merchandise Manager Position. The position directs and coordinates
the procurement, supply, inventory control and distribution of
various products or other related services. This position
participates in the writing, review, awarding, and negotiating of
purchasing related orders, plus the completion of complex purchasing
projects and will work closely with suppliers. This position also
performs research on market trends, pricing, supply, and develops
and screens complex product specifications in order to make
purchasing decisions, processes purchase order requests and provides
direction and guidance to management.

To find more about the base wage, working schedule and hours, base
commissions and benefits, location and the closing date for the
position, please read over the Job Description file. We do not
require any investments to apply or investments to start. We do not
require your relocation.

HOW TO APPLY:
- download and/or complete the attached Application form to send it
back via E-mail. Simply respond back to this email.
- download and/or print it out to complete the necessary section.
The handwritten application form might be sent it back as a scanned
form by email or by FAX number listed below.

Should you have any further questions or require additional
information do not hesitate to contact me by phone or via email.

Monica Mitchell
Phone: 6468639612 <tel:6468639612>
Fax: 8882215044 <tel:8882215044>
I will welcome any opinion you might have with this company if this is another Scam at least I can alert any one about this.

Thank You
Robert

Hello Rob1227!

This is a scam. More than likely if you procceded they would ask you to recieve checks that are fake cash them and transfer funds. Or they would have other scam victims deposit money in your account and have you transfer the money involving you in money laundering.

The whole story about their website not being up is a lie. The truth is they are just using the domain frstcorporsrvs.com for email in an attempt to make the scam look more legitimate. This domain was bought only a few days ago.

Can you please post the headers from the emails? If your not sure how to find headers this link will help http://www.ip-adress.com/faq/view_email_header/

Also please edit out your email address in your post. We recommend you always post information about scams anonymously.

Justin

As Justin said, the domain has been registered for less than a week, and for only a year. This is certainly not an indicator of legitimacy.

Translated from the company listing, the business of the real company is:

services in company formation and consulting in the field of company law.

Company law and information needed for company formation information are country specific, which means that a firm in one country can't just expand to another country--they wouldn't have the requisite knowledge. Even if they did, the real company is small, and they would not be bringing a lot of employees on--more like a single representative in the new location. With no merchandise, and an extremely small staff, there is absolutely no way that they would need a "merchandise manager."

The job description is copied from this real job description here. http://www.higheredjobs.com/details.cfm?Jobcode=175491071&aID=&print=yes

I too am trying to investigate the if this company is legitimate. I really could use this job if it is.

I received their registration with the Commerce in Geneve which shows journal entries dating back to 1996. Am I not understanding something. http://ge.ch/hrcintapp/externalCompanyR ... Language=4

Hello rikki and welcome to scamwarners.

How did you receive this information? If the link was sent to via email then it is was probably sent by the scammer trying to make his operation look legitimate.

Am I not understanding something. http://ge.ch/hrcintapp/externalCompanyR ... Language=4

You are correct in thinking that the registration you checked out is legitimate. What you are missing is the fact that the person writing you does not necessarily have any connection with the company in that registration.

Scammers piggyback off legitimate companies all the time.

They pick a small, legitimate company that is listed.
They create a website in that company's name.
They then approach potential victims, using the company's name, and sometimes pointing to the company registration information to "show" they are legitimate.
Victims see the registration is real, and then they believe the offer is legitimate. It doesn't occur to them that the website is not really connected to the legitimate business.

Here's another recent example of a scam piggybacking (again and again) off a legitimate small company:
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43083

I received a job offer from these people as well. "Monica" stated the following:

We do not ask you to receive checks.
We do not ask you to receive money orders.
We do not ask you to provide the personal banking information.
Please do not mix our company with another scams business.
You should read the papers more clear...

Really? I read through all their "papers" and it smells like a scam. I don't know what it is, but I would stay away from these people.
Does any one else have an opinion?
Thanks!

Notice "she" doesn't mention credit cards.

There are several variants of this type of scam.

1) Some involve receiving checks/money orders/bank orders.
2) Some involve ordering merchandise with (stolen) credit card or banking information provided by the scammers, and then shipping the merchandise to the scammers.
3) Some simply involve receiving the merchandise (that was purchased with stolen credit cards or bank accounts) and shipping it.
4) Some involve placing "employment" ads or the like for the scammers (i.e. helping them to recruit victims.)
5) Some involve printing checks and sending them out to other victims.

The position directs and coordinates the procurement, supply, inventory control and distribution of
various products or other related services. This position participates in the writing, review, awarding, and negotiating of purchasing related orders, plus the completion of complex purchasing
projects

Looking at the parts in red, a variant of option 2 seems most likely.

As I said above, this is a very small company. Ignoring the very real question as to whether they would even be capable of expanding internationally, they certainly would NOT have enough work to justify hiring someone for this activity--and notice how they seem to be recruiting a lot of people.

Thank you for all of your input.

Just for clarification of the process I went through. I do have my resume on CareerBuilder.com which I recognize anyone can access. I received an email with an attached application form requesting that I fill it out and send an updated resume if I wish. I did that. I was emailed and called with a follow-up informing me they received my information and that they would contact me Monday (4 days later) to inform me if I would receive the job. This last Monday I received a call and email with 4 attachments all with logo letterhead that I received the job. The attachments included a formal letter of acceptance with a seal stamped signature from the person on the registration form (Saiz Eduardo), an About the Company information sheet (2 pages), a 9 page Procurement Agent/Merchandise job description, and a payroll form.

They emphasize over and over not to send any banking or credit card information. They claim they will issue a company credit card for the purchases to be made. Is there a way I can send the PDF files they sent me?

Note, I am not advocating this company I am trying to be as objective as I can. I really do appreciate all of your input.

Hello rikki!

You can email the documents to my email address in my signature. I'd be glad to look them over and post if needed.

The corporate credit card is more than likely a stollen credit card. Scammers can buy these for a few bucks from hackers/phishers on the net. The scammer then convinces the victim to buy merchandise with the "corporate cards" and typically have the stollen items shipped to the victim who is told they need to inspect and reship the items. This leads the trail to the victim and not the scammer once the fraudulent charges are reported. The scammer is off the hook and the victim is facing legal issues.

Scammers will also sometimes have the victims place paid ads or subscribe to paid sites with the stollen credit cards. These subscriptions and ads will be used for other scam activity. Once again leading the trail to the victim not the scammer.

Justin

Justin,

Here is the Internet Header of the emails:

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myemail.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:51:25 -0500 (CDT)
Message-id: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:51:07 +0300
From: Monica Mitchell <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: JOB OFFER plus START DETAILS
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I replaced my real email with "myemail.com"

[AlanJones]

An analysis of the header shows that the email originates in Malaysia

Header Analysis Quick Report
Originating IP: 1.9.2.17
Originating ISP: Tmnet, Telekom Malaysia Bhd.
City: Jitra
Country of Origin: Malaysia
* For a complete report on this email header goto ipTRACKERonline

Hi Rikki!

The "company", First Corporate Service is based in Switzerland? Funny that they send their emails from Malaysia, where there is a large group of active Nigerian scammers.

Header Analysis Quick Report<br>Originating IP: 1.9.2.17<br>Originating ISP: Tmnet, Telekom Malaysia Bhd.<br> City: Jitra<br>Country of Origin: Malaysia<br>* For a complete report on this email header goto ipTRACKERonline

Very Interesting....thanks guys.

Obviously, we have confirmed this is a scam, and that it is in fact a credit card scam as suspected (the number they give you for the "corporate" credit card would actually be a stolen/fraudulent credit card).

But, it is important to keep one thing in mind when looking at any of these "job offers."

A legitimate company is not going to grant access to a company credit card and/or bank account to a perfect random individual in another country based on a resume (or even a phone or web interview.) It would be downright stupid. It is WAY too easy for the person to misuse the credit card to buy a bunch of merchandise for himself/herself, and very difficult for them to recover the money due to the complexities of dealing with crimes that cross country lines.

A legitimate company that operated like this would not be a legitimate company for very long, as they would be bankrupted very quickly.

The reason they need you is because most businesses, having been burnt in the past, won't sell to people who are logging in from a different country than the credit card they are using. They also may refuse to ship to certain areas that are known for scams.


The scammers need you because you are in the right country, and your address won't set off any red flags with the sellers.