2008 caravan elddis avante club 4 berth

Hi I have just been told about this site by the police who also gave me a number for action fraud and will be contacting them tomorrow I did not know about you as I have never been scammed well I got an email from a sarah Neale and her box is still active ([email protected])was I still interested in the caravan I remember seeing one and asking for more detail she said the listing had gone off but through Ebay they would sort it for her because a viewing was not possible I could hav it for £3600 I was dead keen and did not mind hav it having no e and blinded by greed I did not want someone else getting this so when the email came from Ebay or so I thought I went to the Redcar branch of my bank who told me I had not got the money so I was angry with the bank I came home thinking where is my money and an email came in have not got it I emailed back about a hiccup and she would not get it anyway as ebay would , I wonder if the person had maybe a laptop to monitor the account , anyway I went to my own branch in middlesbrough who confirmed I did have enough money and redcar had cocked it up and promptly took £4000 out of an offset account ,put it in my current account and sent £3600 to a man called G calabro at lloyds bank the financing center agent and I went home feeling very delighted , I walked to the nearby post office and faxed the banks receipt to the number 02075048111
and scanned the receipt and emailed it per instructions (Email us case id or invoice to financing center )this turns out to be [email protected] the same address as the ebay emails and sarah said she would get things moving but I was starting to see things different why spell center like that in the UK its centre and why was my ebay name used and not hers so I rang the ebay helpline who asked was the listing active , no it had gone off , did you use buy it now , no and did we send you an ebay email , no so its a scam Sir , I sent the Money to account 30 84 31 20111568 which has been stopped but according to the police it had other peoples money in it too , my receipt names the bank as in London but a check on the code says its Holborn circus 4 Arial house Birmingham lastly the pictures are still on photobucket this is the link that I was sent http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w38 ... vanElddis/ regards Paul Jackson

hello folks its me again you will not believe this but I rang that number at action fraud who were keen to help at first but unfortunately I had been to the police that is how I got there number and because I already have a crime number in the system that the police put in a second number is not allowed its a home office rule apparently and is called double counting so they cant help because of that and I have to go back to the first person who gave me that crime number and ask what they can do well she has already said she is not taking it any further the last outfit said I can ring another number but thats police complaints so that was a back heal by a person who did not know about the rule or they would not have let me give them information knowing that I had already reported it to the police I was put on hold then told the bad news I think if this person calling himself neale is reading this then he will be having a laugh right now regards Paul Jackson

Hello hemlin and welcome to scamwarners!

I'm very sorry to hear you were scammed. It sounds like you have done pretty much everything you can and unfortunately most of the time victims do not get their money back. From my understanding action fraud is an organization to report Internet crime to. They do not investigate the crimes the information is passed along to the police. I'm guessing since you already had reported it to the police auction fraud had no further action to take. This is all just my speculation though from the little knowledge I have on the organization.

The scammers hide under several layers of deception and are usually in countries out of the reach of law enforcement willing to prosecute. Law enforcement only has limited resources and have to use their resources to go after criminals they have a good chance to prosecute. So a large portion of Internet crime unfortunately goes unpunished.


Reporting and the information you posted here is very important though. It creates awareness and helps others avoid the scammers.

The scam you posted is a pretty common scam. As I'm sure you realize the PayPal emails were all fake. They can look very real though. Important things to do is not click on links in the email but instead go to the actual PayPal site to conduct the transaction. Always be suspicious when a seller or buyer initiates a transaction through PayPal but ask you to send money a differant way like a bank wire or Western Union or Money Gram. PayPal makes money by facilitating purchases they are not going to tell you to use a competing service like Western Union or your own bank to make a bank to bank transfer.

And of course if something sounds too good to be true it probably is.

Justin

well folks its been a nightmare , everybody is acting strange it has been an uphill struggle but it looks like I am finally getting my money back because it was frozen before the crook got it out ,Lloyds bank told me early on to get my bank nat west to fill out an indemnity form and send it to them but they did not sign the letter with a name and the phone number was wrong when you ring you are always in a queue and thats after you have found the right number , my Bank I gave a kicking and they shoved £205 in my account for all the hassle and for not contacting me and said go to the police its nothing to do with us and saying lloyds must have got it wrong we do not fill out a form this is not the way , and The Ombudsman too he said complain to the bank first before we get involved in fact we can write to the bank for you he said , I said yes please so he went and wrote to card services down in South end on sea and they said its nowt to do with us , what the heck was he playing at he knew my banks address , my bank got a letter from them about my complaint and they sent it to someone at chatham services who in turn sent it to customer relations at Borehamwood They finally got in touch with each other and I can tell you that some retraining is taking place over this regards Paul jackson

well folks it has been a struggle between me and the Banks to get my Money back you see the Police froze the account before the crook could get it all out , the Bank with the Money (Lloyds) said fill out an indemnity form and you can have your Money Back , My Bank (Nat West ) who sent the Money said no we will not send it because it is not the way we do it and we do not know why you were told this so contact the police
, I got a few heavyweights on board like the Observer Newspaper so my Bank sent the Form and I got most of my Money back on July 13 , I know this because I checked , My Bank was supposed to keep an eye on it and let me know how things were progressing but sadly they did not bother so there involvement from start to finish has been abysmal and I have let the manager know this although he has not replied probably he is lost for words , so then avoid Ebay scammers , Ebay do not hold your money for you while you inspect a car or caravan , Ebay told me that if nothing was in my Ebay inbox about the Deal then it was a scam , but I maintain thats not true as the scammer hacked into a genuine account to put the advert on with the words for more info contact me and could have contacted me back through the proper Ebay inbox but Ebay took the advert off so the scammer simply sent me an email using conventional means telling me the advert was off but the van was still for sale , his emails have mistakes but the fake supposedly from Ebay is a perfect fake with no mistakes and it will have hyperlinks and logos and the Ebay Bank account to pay the money into so i think he has taken a genuine email reciept and cut and pasted bits of code from it into his fake ,end of saga regards Paul

Hi there

I've just been a victim of the exact same scam and wondered if you could help me. It seems you have been through the same scenario and wondered if you could help with some advice.

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