AgroFarmTrak SP.ZO.O

Hello everybody,
Is anybody here who knows anything about this company and this person??
I'm trying to buy a tractor from them and I could not found anything wrong about them on this site, so please if is anybody out there who has any idea or somebody who had businesses with this company can say if they are OK or NOT.
They are asking me to send them the money first "bank transfer", and I'm not really confident to send money first and then to send me the tractor.
Your help on this will be much appreciated.

The company name and details are below:

Dipl.Ing. Witkowski Krzysztof
Postal code/City: 16-300 Augustow
Street : Aleja Jana Pawla 2
E-mail: [email protected]
Website: www.agrofarmtrak.eu
Tel: + 48 222 196 667
Fax: + 48 224 853 044
Company name: AgroFarmTrak SP. Z O.O.
NIP: 841-16-09-646
Regon: 771618326
Section: Agricultural vehicles and construction equipment dealer

I've found this discussion on another forum that is relevant.

http://forum.motorsaegen-portal.de/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=68768

Thank you very much for this,
But the problem is that nobody from that forum had anything to do with that company, everybody saying only personal opinions regarding that company and the prices that they have.
I'm fully aware about this thing with prices to low, but in this case is a John Deere 3300 from 1996 with 3000Hrs, at 4000 Euro, I believe that this is not a "exaggerate small price" for this tractor because is old enough and I'm sure that those 3000hrs are not even a quarter from the reality.
Can someone to help me in this matter please?
I need some/more information's regarding this subject.

Thank you.

I would avoid doing business with them based on the fact that outside of that website I can find no other internet references that a company by that name exists . Caveat Emptor . When your looking to purchase an item of that high a price tag , exercise due diligence .

Beware Of Online Machinery Scammers . Quotes from the farmersjournal .

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/toplink/be ... raud/10390


“Like some many times in the past we advise farmers and machinery buyers to be aware that if the tractor looks like very good value, you need to be cautious and never to buy a machine on-line without first seeing it on the ground,”

It also advises that it is very risky to pay for machinery without visiting the company and viewing the goods being sold, unless someone you know and trust has confirmed the existence and trustworthiness of the company involved.

The minute you find a website using photos that have been used previously on other websites to sell the same item at a much higher price, then it can't be any clearer. I'll take a closer look at them.

The Branson 2900 shown at a price of EUR 5,100.00

The same photo can be found here with the machine being sold for EUR 15,500.00

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Schlepper-Kleintraktor-Branson-2900-Modell-2013-19-5-kmh-schnell-/370759337050

Even more interestingly is this page/website which I came across when looking at another machine.

http://wp-agrarmaschinen.com

This deserves a closer look.

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On the http://www.agrofarmtrak.eu website the photo of the Schaeff SKB 1000T priced at EUR 5.500,00 also appears here

http://www.truckscout24.com/vehicle-details/Construction-machines-Schaeff-SKB-1000T-Baggerlader-8-8to-Allrad-1m-Paletten-Excavator-Backhoe-loader/14714543/1

priced at EUR 13,990.00

To make matters worse, the machines on the http://wp-agrarmaschinen.com website are largely the same as those on the http://www.agrofarmtrak.eu and mostly at the same price.

The forum here

http://www.auktionshilfe.info/thread_5796p6

... shows quite a large selection of fraudulent farm machinery websites, including the one mentioned here that they originally detected in April of 2013 and there's no shortage of similar websites all with different names offering the same non-existent machines for sale. I'll try and list them all when I have time.

Rather bizarrely they also sell ordinary motor vehicles under the agricultural machinery company name using the same telephone number that appears on the scam website here.

http://sprzedajemy.pl/volkswagen-tiguan-2-0-tsi-4motion,8844782

Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0 TSI 4Motion

http://sprzedajemy.pl/mercedes-benz-ml350-cdi-4matic-7g-tronic-dpf,8844787

Mercedes-Benz ML350 CDI 4Matic 7G-TRONIC DPF

It's interesting to note that this is the first direct connection that's been seen between the scam agricultural and construction websites and scam car adverts.

It might be helpful to list the companies and websites that are virtually carbon copies of each other

It's helpful that they all sell the same Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 410 using the same photos at the same price - EUR 17,000

AgroFarmTrak SP.ZO.O - agrofarmtrak.eu
WP Agrar Maschinen Sp. z o.o. - wp-agrarmaschinen.com
?wiat Traktorków Sp. z o.o. - swiat-traktorkow.com
Die Gebrauchte Landmaschinen und Baumaschinen GmbH - gebrauchte-lub.de

There appear to be a lot more of these fraudulent websites claiming to be based in Poland and Germany, originating from Romania.

Gentlemen,
This prove to be a scam site, now I’m convinced about this,
So if is anyone there who try to do any kind of business with them, don’t, it’s a fraud.

Thank you very much for all your help and keep up with the good work.

PS
Anybody knows any other trusted sites that sell farm tractors at a reasonable price then please let me know, I really want to buy a tractor for me, good one and at a reasonable price.

Agria Top at http://www.agria-top.com

Gebrauchte Landmaschinen und Baumaschinen Agria Top Sp. z o.o. - Dipl. Ing. Michael Bronislaw
59-900 Zgorzelec Polen
Tel: +48 327466943
Fax: 0911-30844-18820

There are so many of these

Die Gebrauchte Landmaschinen und Baumaschinen GmbH - Agr-Ba.de

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The Case MXU 125 A here being sold at EUR 11,800.00

http://agr-ba.de/detail.php?id=182

appears here (the same photos) for sale at EUR 37,900

http://www.traktorfinder.de/ad/5414/case-mxu-125-a

From the same box

Die Gebrauchte Agrar und Baumaschinen GmbH - gbr-ab.de

gbr-ab.de - MX Records & SPF Records
Reverse IP: 21 other sites
Whois History: 8 records
Location: RO, Timis, Timisoara

and unsurprisingly

Die Gebrauchte Landmaschinen und Baumaschinen GmbH - agr-ba.de