Fake site or not?

Hi all, this is the site, http://www.hkelecwholesale.com/
I get on email msg that say :
[email protected] <[email protected]> 04. септембар 2014. 16.04

Dear buyer,

Wish you a nice day!

Here is Kevin from Shenzhen baolijing electronics co., LTD ,hope we can start business with each other.
we major in exporting for Mobile phone,Tablet,Laptop,USB,memory card,Camera,CPU,Lcd monitor,TV,Mini speaker, Hard disk, etc.

Please link our company web site: www.hkelecwholesale.com , if you want to know more about our product .

100% original & new & unlocked
1. Original: All brand Phone get from brand company with aurthorized letter.
2. New: All brand phone are Sealed in the Original package unopened.
3. Unlocked : All brand phone can use any network sim card in any country.

Our Advantage
★ Great Promotion:
If your Order Total is more than USD 150, we would offer you free shipping by DHL or Fedex ,UPS,EMS
If your Order Total is more than USD 300, we would offer you 1 piece free Brand Unlocked Apple Iphone 5 16GB Gift
If your Order Total is more than USD 500, we would offer you free 10% discount and 1 pieces free Brand Unlocked Apple Iphone 5s 16GB Gift
If your Order Total is more than USD 1000, we would offer you free 20% discount and 2 pieces free Brand Unlocked Apple Iphone 5s 32GB Gift
If your Order Total is more than USD 3000, we would offer you free 30% discount and 3 pieces free Brand Unlocked Apple Iphone 5s 64GB Gift
Booking: 4.7 inch Apple Iphone 6 16GB 32GB 64GB $250 $300 $350 ( Order now, will ship goods in September 15 )

Original Apple Products:
Apple Iphone 5s ID:10676 US$140 Apple ipad 5 Air WIFI cellular 4G ID:10693 US$108
Apple iPhone 5C ID:10681 US$112 Apple ipad 4 WIFI cellular 4G ID:10694 US$92
Apple iPhone 5 ID:10678 US$92 Apple iPad mini 3G WIFI ID:10695 US$68
Apple MacBook Pro 15.4 " Retina 2.6GHz Core i7 Notebook - Z0PU00029 ID:9931 US$489.83 Apple MacBook Pro 15.4" Retina 2.0GHz Core i7 Notebook - ME293LL/A ID:9957 US$349.83
Original Mobile phone :
Samsung Galaxy S5 ID:10611 US$144 BlackBerry Z10 ID:10633 US$71.2
Samsung Galaxy S4 ID:10604 US$136 BlackBerry Z30 ID:10636 US$119.2
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 ID:10609 US$132 BlackBerry Q10 ID:10677 US$92
HTC One ID:10665 US$87.2 LG Nexus 4 ID:10580 US$100
HTC One Max ID:10672 US$119.2 LG Nexus 5 ID:10583 US$89
Motorola Moto X ID:10591 US$89 Nokia Lumia 1520 ID:10690 US$100
Motorola RAZR i ID:10692 US$80 Nokia Lumia 1020 ID:10689 US$92
Original Tablet :
Amazon 8.9" 32GB Wi-Fi Black Kindle Fire HDX ID:10023 US$107 Microsoft Surface Pro 2 ID:10705 US$152
Amazon 7" 32GB Wi-Fi Black Kindle Fire HDX Tablet - B00BWYRF7E ID:10048 US$67 Microsoft Surface Pro ID:10706 US$100
Google Nexus 7 FHD Black Wi-Fi 16GB Tablet - ID:10087 US$57 Samsung 16GB White Galaxy Note 10.1 Wi-Fi Tablet ID:10069 US$109.8
Google Nexus 10 Jelly Bean 4.2 Wi-Fi Tablet ID:10702 US$110 Samsung White Galaxy TabPRO 12.2" 32GB Tablet With WiFi ID:10021 US$129.8
Oem & Tablet Pcs :
AOSON M1013 10.1" Android 4.1 Quad-Core
Tablet PC 1GB RAM / 8GB ROM ID:6689 US$39 CHUWI 7" OGS Android 4.2.2 MTK8382 Quad-Core 3G 1GB + 16GB ID:6961 US$42
Yoga B8000-F WiFi 10.1" Android 4.2.2 Quad-Core SSD 1GB + 16GB ID:6703 US$84.48 IPPO M718 7" Android 4.2.2 MTK8312 Dual-Core 1.3GHz 3G ID:6964 US$21
(TECLAST) A80HD 8" IPS Android 4.2.2 A31s Quad-Core 512MB / 8GB ID:6799 US$35 CUBE TALK97S U59GT 9.7" Android 4.2.2 MTK8312 Dual-Core 3G 1GB ID:6788 US$40
iFive X2 Quad Core 8.9" Android 4.1.1 Quad-Core RK3188 1.8GHz 2GB ID:6804 US$48 TECLAST A10h 9.7" Retina IPS Android 4.2 Quad-Core A31 1GB / 16GB ID:6764 US$50
Original Game Console:
Sony PlayStation 4 (Latest Model) Jet Black Console *NEW ID:10712 US$125 Dual-Shock SIXAXIS Bluetooth Wireless Controller for PS3 PlayStation 3 ID:4545 US$5
Sony Playstation 3 Super Slim Charcoal Console CECH-4001B - NTSC ID:10713 US$100 4-Port Charging Station for PS 3 Move Controllers (Black) ID:4450 US$4
4.2" TFT LCD 8GB MP5 Player/ Game Console + FM+ Recorder+ Calendar ID:4575 US$9 4GB MP5 Player Game Console with 4.3" TFT LCD Screen + FM Radio ID:4578 US$15
RC TOYS & ACCESSORIES:
2 Channel Micro Pocket Infrared R/C Helicopter ID:377 US$5 WLtoys WL911 AC Rechargeable 3-CH R/C Boat Remote ID:157 US$13
3.5 CH RC Helicopter with Camera Video Function Gyro ID:363 US$12 Yellow Mini Radio Remote Control Simulated Boat ID:140 US$4
4-Ch 2.4Ghz 4-axis RC Aircraft UFO 3D Tumbling with ID:386 US$12 1:20 Alloy Radio Controlled R/C Sport Car Model ID:277 US$3
4CH 2.4G Coaxial Sideward Remote Control Helicopter ID:414 US$17 1:43 Remote Controlled RC Off-road Racing Car SUV ID:177 US$10
Brilink BH02 4-CH Rechargeable Indoor R/C Helicopter ID:494 US$11 Intelligent Remote Controlled Dog with Music&Light ID:121 US$8
HEADSETS & SPEAKERS:
1.2m High-quality In-Ear Stereo Earphone - Blue ID:1317 US$1 BC-228 Magic Wireless Operation iPhone iOS Android ID:1510 US$3
3.5mm Plug Ear Hook In-ear Stereo Earphones - Red ID:1459 US$2 BD-780 Portable Plug-in Card Audio Headphone ID:1460 US$11
KEYBOARDS & MOUSE:
E-3LUE DPI-Switch LED USB 2.0 Scroll Wheel Optical ID:1545 US$7 High-performance Avago DPI Shift USB 2.0 Optical ID:1532 US$7
Genius K7 Anti-skid Ergonomic USB 2.0 QWERTY Keyboard ID:1580 US$11 Flexible Silicon 103-Key QWERTY USB Keyboard ID:1594 US$4
SECURITY SYSTEMS:
1.0MP Wireless Wi-Fi IP Network Camera with 11-LED ID:3041 US$25 1/3 CMOS PAL Surveillance Security Camera with ID:3549 US$5
1.2GHz Surveillance Camera with AV Receiver (White) ID:3477 US$11 1.3" LED Anti-Theft Home Security Alarm System Set ID:2872 US$13

★ Fast Leading time: Within 24 hours after you make the payment
★ Shipment: DHL/Fedex/UPS (3-5 days) / EMS (5-7days) , door to door service
★ Long Warranty: 3 years international warranty
★ Personal Service: We can offer drop-shipping service and send goods as gift or reduce amount in the custom invoice so that you don’t need to pay custom tax.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact with us at any time
Looking forward to hearing from you soon

Yours sincerely
Kevin
Company Name : Shenzhen baolijing electronics co., LTD
Add：A1702 building huaqiang jiahe shennan road Futian district Shenzhen

[AlanJones]

It's a Chinese site selling brand name electronics at "too good to be true" prices, a definite scam.

At best you'll get poor quality fakes worth a lot less than you pay, at worse nothing at all and no way of getting your money back.

Yea, i thinked that too :/ but the price is more then good, i think that actualy price that company sell those big house are not far from that.
Too bad. i was just thinking i found cheap and good prdcuts
Anybody know some goo suplier for electronic ?

Anybody know some goo suplier for electronic ?

Unless you are buying large quantities, for large to very large businesses, your best bet is to go to local places in your area. That way you are guaranteed when you exchange cash for product, the transaction happens as its supposed to. Also, you will have the ability to inspect the item prior to buying it, and you will not have any issues with shipping. This is the safest way to buy nearly everything.

The only exception to the rule above is an online retailer you have dealt with before. You know and trust them. But shipping charges could make a good deal a bad one if you have to send the item back for any reason. Always keep that in mind when shopping online for anything.

It's also a one-year domain. If a domain is registered for only one year, and it isn't something time-limited like a political campaign, that's a sign that it's a scam.

Classic 1 year registration . Not expecting to stay in business long . Google company name " Baolijing Electronic Technology Co., LTD " and you get lot of ads on Alibaba . No other references . Definate Fake .

Domain Name: HKELECWHOLESALE.COM
Registrar: 35 TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD
Whois Server: whois.35.com
Referral URL: http://www.35.com
Name Server: NS3.DNS-DIY.COM
Name Server: NS4.DNS-DIY.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 06-jun-2014
Creation Date: 06-jun-2014
Expiration Date: 06-jun-2015

Registrant of that site also registered these , some of which appear to be offline already :

The email [email protected] is related to these domains :
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7. cqbeton.com
8. egochip.com
9. etaiji.com
10. flyhotdms.com
11. hk-appleshop.com
12. hkapplemall.com
13. hzhbzs.com
14. jstzlt.com
15. kimstarsz.com
16. kntew.com
17. marqueechina.com
18. scmhr.com
19. shdongyue.com
20. streamerconfetti.com
21. tiptoplog.com
22. uper.cn
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Here is what i get when i say i cant know is he scam or not :

Dear buyer,

Thank you very much for your reply:

We just begin the world business in these months . So we have such big promotion now , it is just for customers , not for money . In the past time , We only do the business in Hongkong , and China mainland . You can check the google , we dont have any bad records .

Hope we can make a good start and a long business relationship .


Hope we can make a good start and a long term business .

Thanks & Best regards

Kevin

Skype：Kevin_lin91

Company Name : Shenzhen baolijing electronics co., LTD
Add：A1702 building huaqiang jiahe shennan road Futian district Shenzhen

So how can i know? Is there anything i can do to know or not? What is the safest method for paying things ?

And this is what he send me today :

Dear buyer,

How are you?

It is regret that I haven't receive any information from your side. May I have your idea about our offer? We will try to satisfy you upon receipt of your reply. As we don't want to lost a good customer like you!


Hope we can make a good start and a long term business .

Thanks & Best regards


Kevin

So i sent him this:

Hi Kevin, the thing is that i did not find your company profile, and i see a lot of others complain about not receving the orders that they pay for. So i am confused. Maybe you are just one of svam sites, maybe not.
What i sugest will be that we can make a deal and you can send me some sample of product we agree. Then of i get them, we will have a good comunication.
Sory for this, but there is no info about you or your company. And i see that a 20 + domens are register under the one name wich is register your too.
I dont think anything bad, just saying that i cant know. And i do not have money to fall, to lose all. I have medicine problems, so i was thinking that this will help me in that way. But if i pay you 3000usd , and you fail me, i will then sleep at street. i Will lose everything.
Branislav

Don't tell a scammer that you suspect he's a scammer. He will deny it. Stop talking to him and shop locally.

Definite scammer!!! BEWARE. I was stupid enough to fall.
BEWARE SCAMMERS!!!

I have made an order at www.hkelecwholesale.com. Made a bank transfer $350.22 Everything seems so legit.
They send me a tracking no. with DHL. Days passed and tracking does not work.
After emailing them, they said:
"this morning we send your goods out ,and just now we have check with agent, they said the package was detain at the custom. Due to the shenzhen custom restrictly checking for the month , all package been opened ,and checked one by one. Finally they found that the brand products in the package, they require you pay $ 100 as tax, without tax they won’t release the package, hope your understanding , please arrange $ 100 within 72 hours, then we can talk with custom guy and go ahead the shipping, otherwise the items will be confiscated forever"

Of course that was suspicious and after i complained they refuse to settle this by their, did not send proof of any products shipped, refuse to refund, refuse to show proof of customs assessing any tax.

western union information ,
First name : ying
Last name : Long
City : Shenzhen
Provice : Guangdong
Country: China
Postcode : 518000
address : 24A Jinghai Garden, NO 29 Fuhua Road, Futian District, Shenzhen
ID number : 421102199004090567

bank transfer information is :
Account Name: xun Tang
Account Number: 6217 8564 0000 9501 264
Bank Name: Bank of China Fujian Branch
Swift Code: BKCH CN BJ 720
Bank Address: 136 Wusi Road, Fuzhou 350003, Fujian Prov., China
ID number :440923198211264818

Let my stupid loss not be yours. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!

Same unsolicited mail received from that kevin guy (which of course is not his name)

Thanks for posting here . Your post will help warn others . 1 year registered sales sites are a scam 99.99% of the time .

Please post the email that asked for payment by Western Union. Legitimate companies do not ask for payment by Western Union.