Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 12:57 pm
A few weeks back my father joined Match.com via a 3-month promotional offer. He's 55, divorced for 8 years, hasn't had so much as a coffee date in that entire time, also he's had an email address for only about a year - this context is to reveal that he's not internet savvy or even aware that romance scams exist, and lonely.

About a week in he started chatting with a "woman". This went along for over a week before he even mentioned it to me. I told him to just be cautious because you can't be sure of who you are chatting with.
He tells me she's a Norwegian national living in the US. Her father was a miner in Ghana who died in a car accident, but her mother still lives there(in Ghana, really?)
Red flags go up all over the place for me but as long as this person isn't asking for money I tell him, then just proceed with caution.

A few days go by and my sisters calls me saying that the woman is flying up to meet my Dad over that weekend. I'm skeptical but l don't think anything of it. After the weekend I call my father to ask how his weekend went and he told me the woman had to cancel because her mother suddenly got sick and had to Ghana.
Oh boy.

Don't send her a dime! I tell him.
Two days later he tells me he's contemplating buying her a ticket from Ghana to the US. I'm shocked and have troubling conveying to him over the phone that this person isn't real and to NOT buy the ticket.
He says he hired a PI($350) to look into her. A few hours after we get off the phone he calls to tell me the PI confirmed my and my sisters suspicions. Not a real person.

I had a trip planned to see him so I fly out 48 hours after this happens.

My dad over the next 24 hours after I arrive begins to unfold the story about how he had already sent her $750, and had paid for the initial flight for her to see him(the hook) the previous weekend. Obviously he is embarrassed but I console him and tell him he's not stupid, it happens more often than he could realize.

During this trip he's still using Match.com, I'm trying to give him advice etc.. He starts chatting one morning with someone who claims to live 3 hours away in their profile.
Later than night were watching TV and he hits me with this: "She's currently working for a bio firm in Nigeria"
I sit up straight, and burst out a nervous laugh, almost hysterical. I immediately feel bad for the laugh because I know this is a scammer right away. But he won't hear any of that. He doesn't think it's a scam....

Signs of a new scam

Beautiful woman contacts my 55 year old dad out of the blue
Only 2 family members, a Dad and a daughter
Profile Said US, actually in Nigeria
Sends HUGE email after 24 hours with tons of personal email.
Doesn't respond directly to my Dad's inquiries.


We just had this blow out argument. His defense was "she hasn't asked me for money"
I yell "that's because she hasn't hooked you yet."
I get inflamed and storm out of the room.
Now I am writing this post.


What can I do to help him?

Obviously I want my father to find love and be happy but he's so green when it comes to online dating that before he finds a real person his trust towards this kind of "dating" will be tarnished beyond repair.

I tried to suggest only conctacting locals but he says they never respond.

He only seems to communicate with beautiful women who contact him initially.
He's already evaded two other scammers since I've been with him this week(one from Russia, and one from New York).
Unfortunately for them they claimed to be under the age of 40 and my father refuses to entertain the idea of someone under the age of 40.

:cry:
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by Bryon Williams Thu May 19, 2016 1:11 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners,


Read these two threads with your father.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3607

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=25

You and your father can always come here and ask. We will need the emails sent to your father minus his personal information. Email addresses, user names, phone numbers and names being used. Also post the photo's used.

If your father is only on match does the scammer immediately ask him to get off the site and go to email? Does the scammer tell him that they deleted their profile recently?

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by Terminator5 Thu May 19, 2016 1:34 pm
As soon as you mention Ghana it makes an extreme probability of a scam . Please post or private message a link to this " woman's" profile on match.com .

Daniel 8 :25
by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 1:58 pm
Thank you so much for your replies.

Information:

Name: Su Ellen Davis (Name is suspect, Su is not the correct shortened spelling of Sue, additionally her daughter is named Susan...it's not commonplace for women to name their daughters after them)

E-mail:
[email protected]

Phone Number : 415 349 7265

Match.com Username: fjgti484

Username is now invalid and account has been disabled (red flag)
She asked him to block his picture(but not disable his account).

I can get the messages if need be, however I am already convinced she's a scam, and my father is nearing that opinion as well. He tells me he wants to continue the conversations so long as they do not come to the topic of money. I tell him that it's dangerous because they won't until they feel they have you hooked.

A lot of flags are going off, she's using pet names, rarely using his name, starts sending him poetry...all within 48 hours of her winking at him on Match.com

Also this person is not from Ghana, the last one was, this one claims to be from Nigeria(which is just as bad, if not more).
by Terminator5 Thu May 19, 2016 2:05 pm
(415) 349-7265

Owner's name hidden by Whitepages for privacy reasons
Owner is based in San Francisco, CA
VoIP - Enflick

Daniel 8 :25
by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 2:08 pm
Yes, she claims to be based out of San Jose, but is currently working in Nigeria as an entrepreneur for a research study for a particular biofuel producing tree, I forget the name right now.

What does that VoIP info possibly mean?
by Bryon Williams Thu May 19, 2016 2:13 pm
Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP)

Which means with internet service this number can make and receive calls any where in the world.

Can you please post any photo's the person sent.

How to post photo's >> viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219 Use scamwarners and mark the photo's as "Stolen". Blot out any children faces or do not post them.

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by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 2:30 pm
Unfortunately he deleted the photos he had received via text message this morning because she had given him the impression they weren't going to communicate any longer. A few hours later she came right back at it with messaging him.

I told him to send me any photos if she sends any more.
by Bryon Williams Thu May 19, 2016 2:36 pm
Keep in mind the scammer did not want your father to delete his profile because he/scammer will contact him a again with a new name and photos.

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by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 2:54 pm
:beer:

Did a quick Facebook search and found two seemingly inactive profiles using the same picture, the photo matches the girl's thumbnail pick in the original Match.com "Wink" notification which was saved in my father's gmail trash.

I've uploaded it and watermarked it.

Image
by Terminator5 Thu May 19, 2016 2:59 pm
These cockroaches target elderly people deliberately because they're the easiest to target . Old and Alone .

Daniel 8 :25
by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 3:03 pm
Thank you all so much for your help!

This whole ordeal has inspired me to join scam blockers when I get back home.

The silver lining is this ordeal has made my father and I so much closer.

We literally just high fived as he said "Effin Scammers!"

:bowdown:
by Bryon Williams Thu May 19, 2016 3:10 pm
Do you mean this site (Scamwarners)

Scam Blockers??

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by Concerned_Son Thu May 19, 2016 3:35 pm
I think in my head I got confused, I meant to say joining 419eaters - which is where I found this site.
by Bryon Williams Thu May 19, 2016 3:36 pm
Yes, our sister site.

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