Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Pinguin Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:39 pm
Hello
I ask your help in identifying whether this person is real. He contacted me through a dating site, (connecting singles), he says he is a Sergeant, an engineer in the army currently deployed to Kabul, Afghanistan. We have chatted via yahoo, his email address is [email protected]
He has not asked for money as of yet, but he did ask something weird about wanting to make an ivestment as he said some finance company visitted them in the base in Afghanistan and so according to him the Chase bank in the US blocks all the accounts of deployed officers. He asked that if I wanted to help him handle this investment and that he would wire some money to me, or something like that I didn´t quite understand. I actually freaked out and told him I wasn´t gonna give him any financial information from me and accused him of being a scammer... ever since he kind of backed off and never asked me anything like that but continue to talk to me via yahoo.
I want your help in identifying if he is actually in afghanistan, and if he is actually in the army or is just a scammer. He has also said some weird stuff like not being able to send photos, only one photo he posted in the dating site, he says army doesn´t let him use skype nor make phone calls... only yahoo chat...

He says his name is Michael Greenwood. He says his middle name is Steve but I haven´t found him in white pages either. He said previous to being deployed to AFghanistan he lived in Miami where he owns a house or appartment and he was borned in New York City, and was raised there.

He has said his Father name is also Michael and his mother Elena who is suppossed to be Greek.

In case all this is not a scam, please delete all the info.

hope you can help me...
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by Dotti Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:23 am
Unfortunately, I can tell you for certain this is a scam. The "story" he gave you about the bank confirms it for certain. Chase bank does not block soldiers from having access to their money. Any time a "soldier" tells you they can't access their own money, you can be certain you are dealing with a scammer, because the US military makes sure that soldiers can get access to what they need.

The reason he told you he can't send photos is because he is not the man in the photos, and he has never met the man in the photos, as the man is nowhere near Africa or Malaysia, where this scammer is located. So he has no way to get new photos of the soldier, unless he is stealing his photos from a current myspace or facebook page.

The US army does make sure that soldiers can talk to their loved ones on the phone (they may only get a few short calls, but they do in fact get calls.) If he is in a high-security area where he can't talk to you on the phone, then he wouldn't be allowed to use yahoo chat either.

Posting the first few emails he sent you, and the photo he is using, can help others to avoid being scammed, as he will likely try to reuse the letters and/or the photo in future scams.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by GomerPyle Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:16 am
To add to what Dotti has already said, the military positively encourage the use of Skype in Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://www.lenconnect.com/features/x2068981756/Though-deployed-in-Afghanistan-a-father-still-sees-his-daughter-born-in-Adrian

This father watched his baby being born back home in the USA over Skype, and then published it all over the networks. Scammers usually start this line as an excuse to start begging money to get communication devices, but the fact he has mailed you proves he has an internet connection and no need for your money, which I presume is why he began the alternative tack of a finance company. Some bases do allow locals to sell local goods on site, but they don't have financiers trying to do deals. They'd get a backside full of buckshot. :D

Scammers don't have a very good idea of what a military base is or what it does, and his only intention will be to dream up new and pressing resons why you should send him money. Real soldiers have more important things to do with their time and would stick to the things that really matter. Unless they have a wife and kids they don't have outgoings like food and board which is paid for. Scammers however, are always short of cash.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Madyanya Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:32 pm
hello everybody! this is a real scam! :cry:


Hello My Friend

GOOD DAY !!!

My name is Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan, I am a war veteran with the United Nations troop in Afghanistan, on war against terrorism. I served in the 1st Armoured Division in Kabul. Based on the United States legislative and executive decision for withdrawing troops from Iraq, I have been redeployed to come and work in Kabul on the platform of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Our mission is to help beef up terrorist targeted states, mostly the United States and the European Union on the war against terrorism.

On the other hand, I want to inform you that I and my partner (Trooper James Anthony Leverett) have the sum of $16.2million USD, which we got from crude oil deal in Iraq before he was killed by an explosion while on vehicle patrol. Due to this incident, I want you to receive this fund on my behalf as far as I can be assured that my share will be safe in your care until I complete my service here and come over to meet with you. Since we are working here on Official capacity I cannot keep this funds hence my contacting you.

I guarantee and ensure risk free of this deal, I want you to know that we have successfully moved this fund out to Europe with the help of a Red Cross agent and it was deposited with a bank which the deposit slips has been forwarded to me.

I will personally authorize the bank to transfer this fund to you upon the declaration of your assistance. I just need your acceptance and all is done. Since the death of my partner, my life is not guaranteed here anymore, so I have decided to share this fund with reliable and trusted person than the funds lodging in the bank for no interest.

I want you to tell me how much you will take from this money for the assistance you will give to me. One passionate appeal I will make to you is not to discuss this matter with anybody, should you have reasons to reject this offer, please and please destroy this message as any leakage of this information will be too bad for us soldier's here in Afghanistan. I do not know how long we will remain here, and I have been shot, wounded and survived so many suicide bomb attacks by the grace of God, this and other reasons I will mention later has prompted me to reach out for help, I honestly want this matter to be resolved immediately, please contact me as soon as possible with my e-mail address which is my only way of communication. [email protected] or [email protected]


Hello ,

Got your message and I thank you for considering your assistance to enable us realize the benefit of this opportunity. And I am assuring you that all agreement towards the realization of this transaction would be strictly adhered to as stated in my earlier mail to you. I cannot use my military email for a deal like this . I hope you understand.

I quite understand the fact that we have not met before but I strongly believe that all relies on trust. Like I said earlier, my worried and concern is for you to keep the top secret of this deal, and please do NOT betray me at the successful end okay, if you really stick to your word and take care of everything and I will reward you handsomely .

So before we proceed, I will like you to provide with me your information to know you better. As soon as I receive your information I shall write the authorization fund letter in your name, give you the contact details of the Bank and I will also issue you deposit slip that will enable them release the funds to you. Send me your information as stated below:

Your Full Name:
Your Contact Address:
Your Mobile Number:
Your Date of Birth /Age:
Your Occupation:
Your Country of Origin:
Your Scan Copy Of Your ID:

Meanwhile I want to let you know that we need commitment from all sides to make this transaction succeed, as well confidentiality. Please also note that I cannot call you or receive calls from you due to the way things are here .

I assure you that this deal is 100% legal; just give me your co-operation and trust . And because of my military engagement here we must keep all communication between us very confidential as we are not allowed to handle cash while on combat mission abroad, this is to avoid us taking advantage of citizen of the country of mission, and any disobedience on this directives amounts to court marshal and imprisonment, therefore I want you to handle this transaction with sincerity and honesty.

I will be the one to call you when it is absolutely necessary.You cannot call me as we use the general phone here in the base.I hope you understand this .

I really understand what it takes to accumulate such huge amount of funds under your care, for this reason, I am willing to offer you 50% of the total fund but please make sure that my share is well secured until I complete my service here and come over to meet with you.

Thanking you and God Bless . I will wait to hear from you soon.

Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan.
by Arnold Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:59 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners.
If as it seems you are baiting him, I hope you are taking precautions such as not using your real life email address. You may be interested in our sister site devoted to scambaiting - http://www.419eater.com.

by teane4508 Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:44 am
Wow after reading some peoples statments on here i feel stupid i was on a date site girls date free and met a man named SGT GEORGE OROGERS. He supposed to be deployed in Afganistan. He said he would be returning in may and that he would need picked up in NC. I also sen.t him $600.00 to help pay bills because he said a friend stiffed him and took his money and he was three mounths behind. We have been talking for a while. And we are still talking he does not know that i found out about him. He had me sent the money to him Western union. The recivers name was LYNN ROLLINS in alabama. he said she worked for the insurence company and she was going to pick the payment up for him to help him out. I have contacted the police and the military since I was prev. married to an army man. he told me his debt was $1550. I only sent him $600 so the reason he is still talking to me is to see if and when i will pay the other half of his debt. I have learned never to trust anyone on a date site. And if i want to date i need to leave my house to find domeone lol
by Dotti Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:38 pm
Welcome Teane,

I'm sorry you lost money to this scammer, but I'm glad you realized before losing any more.

The person writing to you is most likely a young African man, not an American soldier, and there is no debt--he just picked an amount of money to try to get out of you. If he had managed to steal that much from you, then he would have needed more, or you would have been asked to pay for his "leave." This type of scammer will keep coming up with stories as long as he thinks he has a chance to get more money from you.

The best thing you can do now is cut off all contact with him. Don't bother confronting him in hopes he will feel guilty--these scammers literally have no conscience. Any "confessions" or tearful apologies are part of their game.

If you can post his email address and his first few emails to you here on SW (You can do it here, then I can split him into a new thread) then we can help other potential victims to avoid being scammed.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by teeann Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:57 am
Wow, I can see that I am not alone in this. I was contacted through Myspace from a solider from Afghanistan, He is all sweet and nice and send the longest Romantic e-mails. Then after a few weeks wants me to send a request to his General for a Military transit leave and I was to keep it a secret.
I should have know it was a scam but ignored my instinct since he was so nice and the picture of him was so sweet, probably something he stole as well. I will never trust anyone again!!!!!
by jolly_roger Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:23 am
I very much doubt it was a solider from Afghanistan teeann. That is what the scam artist wanted you to think.
The originating IP number in the email headers will probably point to an African country I would guess.
It has been my experience there are many good people on dating sites too, but scammers use it for all the wrong reasons I'm afraid...I will concede sifting the riff-raff from the good stuff can be challenging at times.
by seanas80 Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:43 am
I have done alot of research into this now and have just realised what a scam this is!

First email recieved.

From: Gerry Gilsenan
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:56 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: How are you doing..........Can I trust you?

Hello,

How are you doing.

I am sorry for any inconvenience this might caused you but I want you to know that this letter is NOT scam email…However my name is Gerry Gilsenan. I am a war veteran with the United Nations troop in Afghanistan, on war against terrorism. I served in the 1st Armoured Division in Kabul. Based on the United States legislative and executive decision for withdrawing troops from Iraq. I have been redeployed to come and work in Kabul on the platform of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Our mission is to help beef up terrorist targeted states, mostly the United States and the European Union on the war against terrorism.

On the other hand, I want to inform you that I and my partner (Trooper James Anthony Leverett) have the sum of 16.2million USD, which we got from a crude oil deal in Iraq before he was killed by an explosion while on a vehicle patrol. Due to this incident, I want you to receive these funds on my behalf as far as I can be assured that my share will be safe in your care until I complete my service here and come over to meet with you. Since we are working here on an Official capacity, I cannot keep these funds hence my contacting you.

I guarantee and ensure you that this is a risk free deal. I want you to know that we have successfully moved these funds out to Europe with the help of a Red Cross agent and it was deposited to a bank of which the deposit receipts have been forwarded to me.

I will personally authorize the bank to transfer the funds to you upon the declaration of your assistance. I just need your acceptance and all is done. Since the death of my partner, my life is not guaranteed here anymore, so I have decided to share these funds with a reliable and trusted person than the funds lodging in the bank for no interest.

I want you to tell me how much you will take from this money for the assistance you will give to me. One passionate appeal I will make to you is not to discuss this matter with anybody, should you have reasons to reject this offer, please and please destroy this message as any leakage of this information will be too bad for us as soldiers here in Afghanistan. I do not know how long we will remain here, and I have been shot, wounded and survived so many suicide bomb attacks thankfully, this and other reasons I will mention later have prompted me to reach out for help, I honestly want this matter to be resolved immediately, please contact me as soon as possible on my e-mail address which is my only way of communication.

Regards,
Sgt. Gilsenan


second email...

Hello ,

Got your message and I thank you for considering your assistance to enable us realize the benefit of this opportunity. And I am assuring you that all agreement towards the realization of this transaction would be strictly adhered to as stated in my earlier mail to you. I cannot use my military email for a deal like this . I hope you understand.

I quite understand the fact that we have not met before but I strongly believe that all relies on trust. Like I said earlier, my worried and concern is for you to keep the top secret of this deal, and please do NOT betray me at the successful end okay, if you really stick to your word and take care of everything and I will reward you handsomely .

So before we proceed, I will like you to provide with me your information to know you better. As soon as I receive your information I shall write the authorization letter in your name, give you the contact details of the Bank and I will also issue you deposit slip that will enable them release the funds to you. Send me your information as stated below:

Your Full Name:
Your contact address:
Your Phone Number:
Your date of birth /Age:
Your Occupation:
Your Country of Origin:

Meanwhile I want to let you know that we need commitment from all sides to make this transaction succeed, as well confidentiality. Please also note that I cannot call you or receive calls from you due to the way things are here .

I assure you that this deal is 100% legal; just give me your cooperation and trust . And because of my military engagement here we must keep all communication between us very confidential as we are not allowed to handle cash while on combat mission abroad, this is to avoid us taking advantage of citizen of the country of mission, and any disobedience on this directives amounts to court marshal and imprisonment, therefore I want you to handle this transaction with sincerity and honesty.

I will be the one to call you when it is absolutely necessary . You cannot call me as we use the general phone here in the base . I hope you understand this .

I really understand what it takes to accumulate such huge amount of funds under your care, for this reason, I am willing to offer you 50% of the total fund but please make sure that my share is well secured until I complete my service here and come over to meet with you. Attached is a copy of my ID, I would like to receive yours as well if possible.

Thanking you and God Bless . I will wait to hear from you soon.
Sgt. Gerry.

third email...

Hello ,

Thanks so much for the information my good friend, I cannot wait to meet you if am still alive when this transaction is concluded. I want to clarify one doubt from you that, this transaction is 100% legal. I understand you may be skeptical but please you must really have to help me secure the money from the bank and in case anything happens to me here in the war zone, then I advise you to distribute my share of the fund to the charity homes for their continuous prayer upon my life. I would also like you to build a hospital for the poor which will be in my name as well.

Have in mind that I have made up my mind to give you 50% of the fund for your assistance and support in this deal as my partner. I really understand what it takes to accumulate such huge amount of funds under your care, for this reason, I am willing to share it equal with you but please make sure that my share is well secured until I complete my service here and come over to meet with you.

Know that I am free with you because I have trusted you with all my heart in this deal. So please do not let me down. You may not understand why I am doing this but I know even if I passed away, your prayer and the prayer of the orphanage will secure me a place in the paradise.

I am providing you the contact details of the bank so that you can contact them immediately tell them that you are contacting them in respect of release and transfer of Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan’s fund that is deposited in their custody. The name of this bank is Bancaja Bank.

Contact the bank immediately with the details as stated below;
Attn: Mr. Antonio Gonzalez
(Director Foreign Operation Dept.)

BANCAJA BANK,
Avenida Juan Carlos I, No 50, Lorca,
30800, Murcia-Spain
Tel- +34-634-196693
Fax- +34-968-970132
E-mail: [email protected]

I want you to know that it will be better for you to contact the director in charge through the contact details which I have provided to you to enable him understand better what you are requesting for. Remember to forward the authority letter to the bank when writing them because they will require it.

Please do keep me updated as soon as you have contacted Mr. Antonio Gonzalez. And make sure you forward your correspondence with the bank to me (Very important). Attached is a copy of the authorization letter which you will forward to the bank for immediate transfer of the funds to you. Thank you and remain blessed. I look forward for an update asap.

Thanks,
Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan.

forth email this time from the antonio dude

Bancaja Bank
Avenida Juan Carlos I, Nº 50, Lorca,
30800, Murcia-Spain
Tel. +34-634-196693,Fax. +34-968-970132


Attention: .


The management of Foreign Remittance Department Bancaja Bank, acknowledged the receipt of your email, including the letter of authorization from Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan. Please be informed that we have successfully completed the verification process of your claim. Here below are the account information/details of Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan.

The account logon detail is as follows:-

Card No: 5209132059798016
Pin Code: 40567783
Account Name/Holder: Sgt. Gerry Gilsenan
Account balance: $16,200,000.00.

To logon to Sgt Gerry's account, kindly click on
http://www.bancajabsaving.org and enter this information
(Card number and Pin number), to check the current account status and confirm if the account balance is accurate..

We strongly advise that you should keep the above account logon information strictly confidential to avoid unauthorized access to the account.

Nevertheless, to start the transfer process, please be informed that you need an ATA CODE before you can be able to transfer the total sum to your nominated bank accounts, According to the legal department, an ATA Transfer Code is issued only to the approved beneficiary for prevention of Unauthorized Access to your online checking account, and you MUST keep the ATA CODE very confidential as this bank will not be held liable should you expose your ATA CODE to criminals.

In view of the above, you are advised to physically travel down to our Office with this address: Avenida Juan Carlos I, Nº 50, Lorca, 30800, Murcia-Spain for endorsement process of the ATA CODE release order approvals, to enable you start transferring your funds directly from our Online Telegraphic Wire Transfer System to your nominated account in your Country. Once the ATA CODE is issued to you, you can be able to transfer your funds straight to your bank accounts without any hitches.

If for any reason, you cannot travel to Spain, we advise that you contact a Licensed Financial Law Firm to come forward and endorse the release order of the ATA CODE on your behalf. Please see the contact information of the Law Firm given below:-

David WU& Associates
( International Law Firm )
12b Cardinal Benlloch 46022 Valencia-Spain

Contact Person : Prof. David Wu.

Phone: +34-603-246-472
Fax: +34-911-820311
Email: [email protected]

You are advised to treat this matter as urgent for immediate transfer of your funds.

Please note that according to our bank wire transfer policy, we are eligible to deduct 0.02% as the Cost of Transfer (C.O.T) of every transfer you made from your Online Checking account once the ATA CODE is released to you. Therefore, you or your agent has to endorse the agreement upon your arrival for the endorsement process.

Please inform us of your decision, ASAP .

Yours in service,

Mr. Antonio Gonzalez.
(Director For Online Account Activation)
Bancaja Bank

Fifth email yet to come. I was an idiot give out my home address, post code, full name and a picture of my provisional drivers license, however i scalled it down to a low resolution image to the point where it was only just readable on screen before i attached it to the email. and given my bank sort code and account number, now if im right a person can only deposit funds into ones bank account with these two numbers i hope, i hope they cant use the bank sort code and my account number to take funds from my account. Yes i was a fool but the reason i kept going through this was because its the first time ive ever had one of these emails respond.... i thought it was legit
anyways how i discovered it was fake was this: http://www.bancajabsaving.org (fake) compared to this http://www.bancaja.es/ (official site) here are the details of the fake bancaja website by following this link below.
http://networktools.nl/whois/bancajabsaving.org


and finally here are all the scammers different email addresses in a nice neat order below:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]


Anyways after all of this and sorry about how long this post is but what do i do now after some of my personal info was leaked to these people. Glad i could share this here to prevent other people falling for this like i did....


Moderator note: I have removed your real name from your post, it appeared a few times. Also, the sites used in the scam will be reported. - Michael
by jolly_roger Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:28 am
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Administrative Contact: HAWKINS, CHAMINE
Record expires on 21-May-2012.
Record created on 21-May-2011.
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by teacherkath_42 Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:51 am
Hi,
I just want to know if there are Canadian Armies deployed in Afghanistan right now?Is there a certain Colonel Michael Stephen Cole there?
by jolly_roger Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:29 am
Hello teacherkath_42. The short answer is yes. I'm led to beleive all Canadian combat troops have left there.
On a recent news broadcast, it was saying the Canadian air wing will also be ending operations too. But have not heard anymore since then. Not sure whether they have returned home or not.
Does the Colonel have an email address? Perhaps a phone number he gave you? How did you first start to communicate with the individual? I presume it was an online dating site? Any additional info would be helpful.
by Arnold Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:53 am
There's no way we can check the names of Canadian military, but there are so many scammers claiming to be NATO military in Afghanistan that I can't believe you aren't dealing with a scammer. Sorry.
Can you give more details please.

by Arnold Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:31 pm
Thank you for reporting that, and I'm sorry to hear you were scammed.There's no chance of the scammer being caught or you getting your money back, I'm afraid. Money sent by Western Union is gone forever, and there is no guarantee that he is even in Egypt.
bancajabsaving.org was set up in November 2010 for the minimum 12 months and seems to have been shut down.
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