original email from Morgan Bill - scam familiar?

Can anyone tell me about someone in Lagos Nigeria who goes by the name of Bill Morgan? I have been corresponding with him for 2 years. He has a son, Lucas. I could use some help. I saw this posting:

This is the same guy I got involved with, he is in Nigeria, Lagos, his sons name is Lucas and he just bought a home in jacksonville, florida. He want to fly to you but he doesn't have enough money to pay for his son's ticket so he wants you to send him $600. by western union. He is a very slick scammer. DON'T FALL FOR THIS SCAMMER HE IS A NIGERIAN. He goes by Bill Morgan/[email protected].

I am trying to find out if this posting is correct. It was written by Ironmagnolia early this year.

There is no reason to doubt the information provided by Ironmagnolia. The name "Bill Morgan" has been used by scammers in the past, for example here: http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/male_scammers/f1111.shtml?p=13

If I understand correctly, you have been corresponding by email with a man for 2 years, but have not met him face-to-face at this point. He calls himself Bill Morgan and has the following characteristics:
-He says he is an engineer (I'm guessing most likely from US or UK)
-He is a single dad
-He is white
-He is in Nigeria on a contract, but he expects to come home soon.

I have encountered hundreds of Nigerian scammers making the exact same claims. I have NEVER encountered a real person on dating sites with these specific characteristics. Nigerian scammers will continue a fake relationship for months or years if they are getting money or they believe they have potential to get significant money from their victims.

I will go out on a limb here, and say that much of the following is likely true:
-He is between 40 and 65
-He claims to be wealthy or entitled to a large sum of money when his project is complete.
-He has fallen in love with you even though he has never met you face-to-face.
-His former wife either died tragically, or he caught her cheating on him with his brother, boss, or best friend.
-He is an incredibly devoted father, and if you have children, he has led you to believe that he is ready and anxious to be a father to them.
-He has sent lots of romantic poetry or highly romantic chat/emails.
-He uses lots of terms of endearment like babe, hunni, darling, etc.
-He may even refer to you as his wife.

If the above statements are true, then you have your answer right now: textbook Nigerian scammer.
If you can post some of his emails to you here (or forward to my email address) I can certainly confirm whether the writing indicates an African author and/or a scammer's script.

[email protected]

on yahoo



also goes by

James Williams on FB
Work and Education:
Self Employed and Loving It!
Tennessee State University - Nashville, Tennessee
Loranger High School - Loranger, Louisiana
Living:
Jacksonville, Florida - Current City
Basic Information:
Gender Male
Interested In Women
Relationship Status Single
Languages English

this much is true:
-He has fallen in love with you even though he has never met you face-to-face.
-His former wife died tragically - car accident
-He is an incredibly devoted father - son Lucas 15-16
-He has sent lots of romantic poetry or highly romantic chat/emails
-He uses lots of terms of endearment like babe, hunni, darling, etc.
-He may even refer to you as his wife.

He is from Italy, has been in Nigeria doing business as an antique dealer or having to do with antiques bought and sent to US or wherever. Has not been able to leave Nigeria - problems with paperwork, no money tp pay PTA, etc. No money for food. Can't work because he is not Nigerian and he is trying to leave the country - for 2 years now. He is waiting for a lawyer to stamp his papers and go to the embassy with him. He is catholic, goes to church and bible study. He prays with me, he sings to me. he encourages me to study the bible. We talking on the phone - Skype - exchange emails and use Yahoo to text one another.

I met him on match.com after my husband died - about 7 months after my husband's death in april of 2011. I didn't like him at first - thought he was looking for someone to care for his son. His introduction on the match.com site was horribly written, obviously copied from some where on the web, I figured. I don't know how I wound up sending him very much money with wire transfers - he told me to and I did it. My banker was sure that I would never lay eyes on the man and was to the point of not allowing me to take anymore money out of my account to send to Nigeria.

I apologize for a quiet explanation. I feel a loyalty to him and writng of him here somehow seems disrespectful. I am sure it sounds crazy. I would imagine I sound like one who hasn't a brain in her head.

Thank you for your response. I am grateful to have someone to talk to about it.

Kindest regards - Jolene

I am very sorry that you have lost money to a Nigerian scammer, and more importantly, that you encountered a low-life criminal like this one when you were most vulnerable. I am, however, glad that you have a banker who was looking out for you.

I can say with absolute certainty at this point that he is an African scammer.

He is not Italian (and like a typical Nigerian scammer, he has no real understanding of Anglo Saxon names, and has chosen a name that is not Italian.)

I didn't go into detail above, but his approach ("I am frequently in the US, but I am from Europe") is also very common. He does this for 2 reasons:
1) to explain away his accent and his poor English (though the written English mistakes and accent of an Italian are actually very different than those of an African, unless you are familiar with them, you would likely not recognize this.)
2) when he makes ridiculous claims about government or policies, he knows you are less likely to question them. In reality, if he were an Italian citizen, the Italian government would have helped him to get back home long ago.

He is not the man in the photos. He has never even met the man in the photos. He just stole the photos off the internet. He is a young, black, Nigerian man. Everything else he has told you is a lie, except perhaps (ironically) that he goes to church and prays regularly (though he is likely not Catholic.)

These scammers are living in a world that is so warped that they see no conflict between what they are doing and their religious faith. They will even pray to God to send them victims! They will tell lie after lie without hesitation, and will literally say anything it takes to get you to send money without skipping a beat.

Some will use the "justification" that they are only getting back from the Western world what has been taken from them (ignoring the fact that they will gladly steal from their own countrymen and from people from impoverished countries as well.) Others will continue to lie, even when confronted with incontrovertible evidence of their crimes.

There is a link in my signature line for victims of romance scams. Please do read it, and don't hesitate to ask any questions.

Sorry . I could not find your signature line.

Thank you for helping me. I asked directly if he is Nigerian and he was very angry . He also making more
Excuse about problems getting to the states - he is waiting
For an attorney to stamp his papers and go
With him to the embassy . He is also angry that
I looked him up on the Internet . He does speak
To me in Italian - just basic expressions . I told him
About James Williams and he angry . I sent
A message to the woman on his FB page. She responded and wanted
To know his name he used to me. I have not
Revealed it. At this point I trust no one .
With you being an exception .

Look at the very bottom of my posts, below my email address. That is the victim information link.

Anger is a very common response when you confront one of these scammers. Many of these scammers actually do get angry with their victims for catching on to the scams, especially if those victims are women. Many actually have a very chauvinistic attitude, and expect women to treat them as superiors. A woman taking the liberty of doing her own research is stepping beyond her role.


After the initial angry response to your confrontation:

Some will adopt the role of the romantic martyr. They will claim that they have been completely dedicated to you since the very beginning; they can't believe you would make such an accusation, but they love you anyway. They will then often drop all requests for money for a while. They do this when they believe that they can still lure you back into their fairytale. They know that in some cases, if they play this part long enough, the woman they are trying to scam will eventually think that they must be real, or they wouldn't keep trying. In reality, that's not the case--they just believe that no matter what the victim is saying about not sending money, they still have a chance to convince her to send money in the future. Once they think the victim is fully "hooked" again the money requests will resume.

Others will "confess." They will then spin stories of their difficult lives, how they didn't have a choice but they had to scam to survive (or even to protect others.) They may tell you that they really did fall in love with you, that they feel guilty, and that they will never scam again. This is just a new set of lies. They feel no guilt, and are only looking for a new angle that will get them more money. In reality, if they can afford the internet access to scam, they are actually better off than many of their countrymen. They have no intention of stopping, and may even see more opportunities to steal from you—only instead of playing the romance angle, they will play the sympathy angle (trying to get you to send money out of sympathy for their plight.

If they believe they have no chance to con you out of more money, they may become threatening. They will not hesitate to attempt blackmail or even death threats if they think those tactics will get you to send money. Or they will move to a recovery scam, contacting you under new names/emails, claiming to be police or some agent who can get your scammer arrested and/or your money back. Ultimately this too will be an attempt to get more of your money.

As far as him speaking Italian goes—most likely it’s just an online translator. I use Google Translate all the time myself, as I frequently correspond with victims who do not speak English. It’s quick, easy, and free.

The sooner you cut off all contact with him, the better for you.

You are right on the money with his reaction to my questioning. He says there is no one in his life that will keep him alive and blah blah blah. He is already asking me for more money because he has no food. I told him I am deep in debt because I have maxed our credit cards. borrowed money, gone without groceries so I could send him money. And he still says send " a little money ". He thinks $1,000 is a little money. One time I sent him all I had - $150 - and he refused it. He said it was not enough and I should keep it.

I have ruined my financial well being. I have all but ruined my health and my happiness. All those beautiful words - all for nothing.

I have looked at a company named Wyloo International that will do an investigation - for a fee, of course. Their reputation is quite well verified. They have people in Lagos, Nigeria that will get information I need to satisfy myself about who he is so I can rest and put my life together. You have helped me so much and I will pass along to you any documented information I receive for you to keep in your records to help someone else from being taken in by people who only look to harm no matter how pretty their chatter isl

Jolene

I will send you a pm later.

In the meantime, if you are comfortable with it, could you send some of the emails he sent to you to my email address (bottom of my post--remove the spaces.) Also, tell me where you met him online, and if he had a username, what that was?

I'm afraid he changed his story ...
this is the message I got

Hello xxx,
Thanks for taking your time to reply me.This is a bit awkward for me but i bet i am the man so its imperative to be able to at least start up the conversation.I will start by saying i am a very humble and sweet man,Been widowed for 6 years,I do have two children though i try to spend so much time with them when i am in the country as i am a very busy man who believes family come first .In other words i do not let business deny me the time i need to spend with my family..Sorry i can compromise.I have a sister who lives in Miami Florida with my Mum and she is one of the sweetest woman i know she is like my mum though i am older than her and i love her two girls too.They all living a good life oer there and my kids Jackie and Smith Schools in England Jackie is the eldest and she is 20 while james is 18..I am 56 at the moment sister is 58 and mum is 89..Anyway i have such a wonderful family i only moved down to Iverness,Fl recently. lived almost all my life in Florida,Miami...I do not know if i am sounding right at the moment but am being as plane as i can to enable you understand where i am coming from,I have a bit of an IRISH history and Canadian history as well.

I am also an Msc older in Business Administration,Though i am presently a Self employed man in Business Development,I advise companies and write plans for them and i also give special training to professions working in Multinational cooperations and above all i deal on Antiques which is the most interesting part of my career.I love to dance,go to the movies,listen to musc,help people,i believe in life we all need someone.You can never do it on your own .My FAMILY are basically my real friends though i have some business partner whom i see as friends in business. I really hope this makes an di get a woman who as zest to pursue and nurse ambition as i am a man driven by my ambition i go for whatever i want above all all this that makes me happy cant be complete without a partner thats my mums quote which she calls a gift to me on the first of january 2013,I am funny,loving,sweet,happy i never let things weigh me down..I think i have said enough please take it from here by reading through and maybe you will have an idea of what to tell me about yourself..Dont forget i am a christian but i do not bite unbelievers due to the fact that every man does whatever makes them happy and i respect that.

Let me know if you don't understand anything am open to answer questions though am new to online dating never tried it before so give me some credit...lol

Kind Regards,

Received: from [41.71.171.37]
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013
From: Morgan Bill <[email protected]>
Lagos, Nigeria

I met him on Match.com.
From: Removed (BW)
Date: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:45 PM
Subject: Match.com profile for Morgan



On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Morgan Bill < [email protected] > wrote:

I've a son and his name's lucas, he's 14yrs now and would really love to have someone to call mommy in the nearest future..I'm a very good man and proud to say I come with no drama I'm an overall well rounded mature man, with strong family values....I'm Really happy with my life at the moment but i would like to have that special person to share it with. i do say I am a laid back, confident, genuine, caring, fun loving kind of man, who spends far too much time working! I’m honest, easy going and have been told I’ve got a great personality!!. I'm 5.9, averagely built, pensive, open-minded, great sense of humor, ambitious, outgoing, educated, inquiring and thankful for every day on earth. I love to travel, workout, attend plays and concerts, charity events, shop (for the latest trends), watch or attend sporting events and much, much, more. I enjoy going out to new restaurants and old favorites and engaging in tantalizing conversations along with tasting new wines or having a beer. I am willing to take risks to see where life takes me. I tend to be competitive at times or so I've been told! I am honest about my feelings, emotionally available, family oriented, athletic, fun, smart, successful, compassionate, caring and one who can laugh both at myself and at life. I'm looking for someone who has a great sense of humor and likes to enjoy life to its fullest. Someone who's willing to try new things and enjoys traveling to new places or back to their favorite destinations. It would be wonderful if you enjoyed cooking! I'm looking for someone to share life's accomplishments and successes with and who would be my best friend. My relationship should be one where we laugh all the time! One that is supportive - where we grow together - on connected paths. A willingness to spend time with friends and family is important to me as is honesty, respect and a positive attitude. I couldn't live without friends, its is really not a sudden urge that has prompted me to write you.and When I first saw your profile I was struck by your simplicity and by the sweetness of speech and manner that would come out from you that it became difficult for me to shot you out of my mind.and I've gotten the chance to know you through this wonderful site..I Would like to tell you more of me and though I don't know what your true feelings for me are really like,but You look pretty and friendly,could you please tell me where you got that smile from?Even from the monitor,i could still feel a ray of morning sunshine hit me!Don't think I'm flattering you or anything,but it's true,SCOUTS' HONOR! Oh!you can't see my hand but its up.i will be very happy if you can accept me as i really wanna accept you.

A good chunk of the first part of the script can be found on this fake profile using photos of Major General Larry Shellito, who recently retired as the Adjutant General of the Minnesota National Guard. http://www.silverfishing.com/home/UserDetails_shilito12101.html

2nd half of that script has been around quite a while:
http://mobile.millionairemate.com/view/325391_47515.html

Thank you. I am grateful for the help from all the staff . Your answers and information made it easier to get this scammer out of my life. I will always be grateful .

Jolene

see here
www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=72163

From an email I received:

Quote:

I wish I didn't have to miss you. If only you could be with me always. I know I could never be any happier. But then again, I know that the day will come when I will be able to spend my every waking moment with you. I even miss you when I am sleeping! I love you, babe. You are my first and my only love, and I thank you for being so kind with my heart. Hopefully, soon I won't have to hate missing you. I tell you this everyday, but you are the most beautiful person I know, inside and out and I see that more clearly with each passing day. I love everything about you, about us. You do something to me that no other has, you have made me so happy, the happiest I've ever been. You give me the most amazing feelings inside, the feeling of being in love with you.

End quote

Merged (BW)