Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Bryon Williams Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:39 am
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by NeoTrinity Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:54 am
A person using these photos has a new profile on OKCupid AND PlentyOfFish; he's using the name Steve or Steve Smith
OKCupid username is: astonomatic (last online this morning at 8:30 am)
Two pictures that have been posted here are in common on both profiles (the one on the escalator showing three other people and the one of him in an airport skyway). The others on OKCupid are different ones, but the same person.

astonomatic
36 - Monroe, WA
Straight, Man, Single, 6’ 3”, Fit
White, Speaks English, Attended University
Never smokes, Drinks socially, Doesn’t have kids

"astonomatic
My self-summary
I love meeting new people and getting to know them better each day. What I do most of my time when I'm not working is exercise, travel, hang out with friends, family, and go shopping. It's not weird at all for a man to like shopping right ?

I'm very affectionate in and out of the house so that's a must if we want to get along. My type of woman is curvy, rocks heels, and athletic. Of course no one is perfect but that's just my preference. I'm mostly described as funny, nice, sweet, romantic, and a bad boy. That's all I'll leave for now, you can find out the rest.

I'd say the best way to tame me or lock me down is to have a round booty. Then I'm all yours.

And to avoid the "I'm not looking for a hook up" lecture, I'm not interested in that either.
You should message me if
You can cook in just an apron and heels for me

Also I put a fake location for privacy reasons so if I message you I'm probably close."

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Plenty Of Fish profile name: totallynotsuper
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?pro ... =106054939

"totallynotsuper: I don't grow on trees

About Non-Smoker with Athletic body type
City Your neighbor, Alabama
Details 37 year old Male, 6' 3" (191cm), Christian - other
Ethnicity Caucasian, Capricorn

Intent totallynotsuper wants to date but nothing serious.
Education Bachelors Degree
Personality Adventurer
Profession Stress reliever

I am Seeking a Woman
For Dating
Needs Test Not Completed
Chemistry Not Completed
Do you drink? Socially
Do you want children? Undecided/Open
Marital Status Single
Do you do drugs? No
Hair Color Brown
Eye Color Blue
Do you have a car? Yes
Do you have children? No
Longest Relationship Over 5 years
How ambitious are you? Somewhat Ambitious
Pets No Pets

Interests
Traveling
Food
Cars
Sight seeing
World
Friends
Family

About Steve
I love meeting new people and getting to know them better each day. What I do most of my time when I'm not working is exercise, travel, hang out with friends, family, and go shopping. It's not weird at all for a man to like shopping right ?

I'm very affectionate in and out of the house so that's a must if we want to get along. My type of woman is curvy, rocks heels, and athletic. Of course no one is perfect but that's just my preference. I'm mostly described as funny, nice, sweet, romantic, and a bad boy. That's all I'll leave for now, you can find out the rest.

I'd say the best way to tame me or lock me down is to have a round booty. Then I'm all yours.

First Date
Make love until sunrise"

He messaged me Thursday morning 12/31/2015 on OKCupid and quickly suggested we switch over to kik for chatting. He was flirty and suggestive, but not crude or rude about any of it. He came across charming and flirty. However, he asked almost immediately if I lived alone, which I didn't answer until we had been talking a lot the next day.

I'm not sure if this is the same person who ran the scam above, but it is someone using the same profile pictures, and there are a lot of them. There were 5 on the OKCupid profile and he sent me two others and there were two other different ones for his Kik and Skype profiles, which were both named AstonDBS. He is thorough with his profiles as well. On kik, his profile picture is another picture of the same person in ANOTHER airport and he sent me two other pics shirtless in a bathroom mirror. As I said, he was very flirty and was basically trying to get me to agree to meet to have sex. He asked if we could have a Skype session before meeting in person, which I foolishly agreed to. But his camera never worked, it appeared he was trying to get it to work several times, but it only showed a black screen as if the lights were off. During our chatting, when I asked his name, he said it was Steve and when we started the Skype session, his ID showed as Steve Smith. Also, during the Skype, he did not speak, he only used the on screen chat to talk, although he could hear and see me.

In retrospect, here are the red flags I missed:
1) He admits to using a fake location "for privacy reasons" when in reality there's no reason to do that on dating sites; if you want to remain private you can just post photos of yourself that don't show your full face clearly and don't post anything personally identifiable like a username or email address that can be traced
2) He almost immediately asked if i lived alone, and kept asking until I told him (he later mentioned that other women he had spoken to weren't hesitant to tell him that right away, attempting to shame or manipulate me)
3) I misidentified the location in one of his pictures as my local airport and he concurred (I later checked images of that airport skyway and discovered it was not my local airport)
4) He wanted to Skype before he would meet me (I suspect if I declined he just would have kept trying to convince me and put off meeting in person)
5) He didn't ask any personal questions, even my name (but didn't avoid answering some personal questions when asked, very smart)
6) Once we started the Skype session, his camera wouldn't work and he used on screen chat rather than talking - I should have stopped right there; I asked him several times to try and make it work and then finally, I said i wished his camera worked and he logged off saying he was going to try restarting his phone. That was when I stopped hearing back from him.

I don't expect I will hear back from him again and I don't intend to try to keep communicating with him. I haven't indicated that I've figured out he's a scammer/fake and I won't tell him that if he does communicate with me.
by LaraC Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:07 am
Hi Neotrinity

Thanks for the report and posing the details I here. How did you search and find out about this thread? You can private message me the answer as I suspect this scammer knows this website and knows he is posted. You don't wanna give away the answer to him to educate him to scam better next time.

Though I said this scammer but I doubt it is the same guy as mine who has been using the same tel phone number over a year targeting "serious only" victims. Probably your scammer is a different guy using these same photos circulating amongst the romance scammers. I suspect this guy on the photo is a minor celebrity (news reporter for example) so his photos (I was sent his video too) are readily available me online or something.

Yours is deffinitly a scammer but not sure what he/she/they is trying to achive. Doesn't sound like a money scam as this scammer sounds to me he is only after casual sex.

Other than photos only connection I can find in your scammer from mine is both of them like ”cars". Few photos he posted were taken at car show and probably that s why he mentions that.

Other than that he shows his true scammer self which is his over self confidence. But this is maybe not a unique to him but probably a common trait amongst any scammers who are around long enough. They are all arrogant, lazy, with empty self comfident, and void of empathy and conscience. That, they can't pretend having one because they are born without.

Lara

Do NEVER confront the scammers it will only educate them
Once you found out that you are in contact with the scammer(s), before you take any actions other than blocking them, you can CONSULT in the forums first.
by Maggie725 Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:58 pm
I have encountered this same scammer on Hot Or Not and OK Cupid. The person in the pictures is Steve Siler who is an automotive journalist based in CA. I have contacted him to make him aware of this scammer and he thanked me and said he was aware that this was happening.

Everything you said about him with Skype and asking if I live alone happened to me! How sick. I can't believe there are people this pathetic out there.
by Bryon Williams Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:03 am
Welcome to Scamwarners,

Thank you for your post.

and said he was aware that this was happening.


Please do not contact future victims that the scammer stole the photo's from. Not all out comes will be the same. These victims wish to be left alone and live their life. There is nothing these victims can do to stop the scammers from using their photo's. As you have posted he is well aware of this.

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by LaraC Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:47 am
Maggie725 wrote:I have encountered this same scammer on Hot Or Not and OK Cupid. The person in the pictures is Steve Siler who is an automotive journalist based in CA. I have contacted him to make him aware of this scammer and he thanked me and said he was aware that this was happening.

Everything you said about him with Skype and asking if I live alone happened to me! How sick. I can't believe there are people this pathetic out there.


Thanks for the new information now we know where this scammer(s) are getting his photos and videos to deceive women from. Open Instagram of Steve Siler. - how did you find about this?

I am not the one posted about the Skype in fact when I asked him for a Skype he told he does't use Skype (nor Facebook because he is "not into social craze").

This scammer (we could be talking about different scammers sharing same photos/videos/profile) is based in London or at least his money collection point is in London under the ID called Johnson Mosley (fake ID to show when collecting money at Money Gram) with both UK and HK phone numbers.

Seems like he is using Singaporean phone number too, but I haven't got it to post here so if anyone does, please post it in here thank you.
by LaraC Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:56 am
Maggie725 wrote:Everything you said about him with Skype and asking if I live alone happened to me! How sick. I can't believe there are people this pathetic out there.


They are sick and I believe it is part of our human nature that we are all capable of doing what scammers do, murderers and rapists do. What separates us from them is that we chose NOT to be them, we chose NOT to do what they do. And that is a precious gift (I don't believe in God so I refrain from using the word God/gods) given to us which scammers don't have.

So yes they are pathetic. All they are chose to be is pathetic by choosing live in the life to damage other's lives. But we, the others, are capable of healing and coming back to our own goodness - in where they can't. :)
by Bryon Williams Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:15 am
is based in London or at least his money collection point is in London under the ID called Johnson Mosley (fake ID to show when collecting money at Money Gram) with both UK and HK phone numbers
.

Please do not get confused where a scammer say's he is located and where he want money sent.

Western Union and Moneygram can be picked up any where in the world. Not all locations require ID. This is why scammers prefer this method. Also note a scammer will often bribe clerks to look the other way.

To pick up a Western Union or Moneygram all the scammer need is the MTCN or Reference nunber. This is why they ask you to forward these numbers to them.

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Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


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by Maggie725 Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:25 am
I did a reverse look up using the photos that the scammer sent to me and that is how I tracked down who the real person was. I didn't even think about not contacting the victim so point well taken. I honestly looked at it as I would want to know if someone were posing as me. I then came across this post and realized that this person has scammed others.
by Bryon Williams Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:34 am
^^^ I understand. The below is a blanket statement to whomever may read this and want to contact victims.

You just wouldn't want 100's of people contacting you each month to inform you of something you already know. You also would not want this contact to take place at your work place or people showing up at your door. We have seen it before.

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by LaraC Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:38 am
Bryon Williams wrote:
is based in London or at least his money collection point is in London under the ID called Johnson Mosley (fake ID to show when collecting money at Money Gram) with both UK and HK phone numbers
.

Please do not get confused where a scammer say's he is located and where he want money sent.

Western Union and Moneygram can be picked up any where in the world. Not all locations require ID. This is why scammers prefer this method. Also note a scammer will often bribe clerks to look the other way.

To pick up a Western Union or Moneygram all the scammer need is the MTCN or Reference nunber. This is why they ask you to forward these numbers to them.


Thanks for your info. I have never collected money at such places but I have sent before. They require your ID (and your proof of source of funds such as your monthly wage slip for certain big amounts) but they do not require ID (of course in here they're all fake) when collecting it??

Surely, especially when they are operating in gang they could be anywhere.

Even that is true, what police can do is to ask for Moneygram / Western Union to give them the footage of CCTV camera as they can trace the time / location of collection with reference number. The reason why they don't is because the victims reporting it are in different countries from the collection point. - so do police say.

Australian police is very active on catching scammers in where Hong Kong is not. (yet)
They are too busy catching the mainland Chinese corporate scams but the victim of romance scam is Hong Kong is increasing, there was a woman who's HK$20 million (US$2.6 million) was stolen by one phone call in 2015. That was by a mainland operation pretending a Chinese police.

Do NEVER confront the scammers it will only educate them
Once you found out that you are in contact with the scammer(s), before you take any actions other than blocking them, you can CONSULT in the forums first.
by Bryon Williams Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:43 am
police can do is to ask for Moneygram / Western Union to give them the footage of CCTV camera


This may be true in the Western World. However, it does not apply to the 3rd World Countries. This is why the Police, Government and Moneygram/Western Union clerks will be corrupt.

Our Law Enforcement stops at its boarders.

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by LaraC Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:55 am
Bryon Williams wrote:
police can do is to ask for Moneygram / Western Union to give them the footage of CCTV camera


This may be true in the Western World. However, it does not apply to the 3rd World Countries. This is why the Police, Government and Moneygram/Western Union clerks will be corrupt.

Our Law Enforcement stops at its boarders.


Western world = first world you mean? lol (I am in Asia, Hong Kong)
Surely it does not apply for Nigeria and Ghana but in London???

I would have never sent money if it wasn't London. - non dodgy sounding places.
(But then I am aware about African scammers in the UK too and LND is a melting operational pot of that or everything else for that matter)

I understand about the extraterritorial thing about police force which also protects us from the mainland China force (if you know kidnapping bookseller cases in HK by probable Chinese authorities) but particularly HK being under the UK formally, I don't understand why they can't cooperate. I guess they can if the crime is "big enough" and that means scams are not recognised as that yet.

I have also reported to the UK police but I don't think they act because I am not a UK citizen. - I am not entirely sure about this point tho, but would they?

Do NEVER confront the scammers it will only educate them
Once you found out that you are in contact with the scammer(s), before you take any actions other than blocking them, you can CONSULT in the forums first.
by Bryon Williams Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:03 am
I don't understand why they can't cooperate. I guess they can if the crime is "big enough" and that means scams are not recognised as that yet.


You are correct the financial loss may not be big enough.

And true again there are many scammers based in the UK.

The best we can do is report it to your local police and Action Fraud >> http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

We can also post all the scammers details here and try to protect future victims.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by LaraC Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:13 am
Bryon Williams wrote:
I don't understand why they can't cooperate. I guess they can if the crime is "big enough" and that means scams are not recognised as that yet.


You are correct the financial loss may not be big enough.

And true again there are many scammers based in the UK.

The best we can do is report it to your local police and Action Fraud >> http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

We can also post all the scammers details here and try to protect future victims.


Yup, actionfraud was the one I have reported (other than to HK police) right after and has not got any feedback (it has been more than 6 months) Not that I was expecting though... as #1 amount (US$13K) is not big enough, #2 i am not a UK citizen.

I am in the financial industry and I am well aware how multi jurisdiction makes everything so complicated from tax evasion to money laundering. We need sophisticated system to prevent crimes like this and this crimes has not caught much attention yet.

So yes thanks to the websites like this, to raise awareness and to act as a prevention. But then again, the most it received attention the more it educates the scammers so oh well, we can't really stop the viruses to go around...

Do NEVER confront the scammers it will only educate them
Once you found out that you are in contact with the scammer(s), before you take any actions other than blocking them, you can CONSULT in the forums first.

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