Information on romance scams and scammers.
by SweetAndSassy Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:22 pm
Hi all,

I have not been scammed by anyone but I have had red flags and bells go off while talking to a couple of military men...One of which is Chris Millian and another is Andrew Bundermann. Sad how easy identity theft can happen and people use them to scam people out of money, time, and emotions. It was funny when I did a search of Chris Millian on google I came across this site and read the same story he had been telling me. I went back to him and told him that his game was up and he should be ashamed of himself for playing with womens hearts! He soon went offline with no response. So thanks to this site, I am able to warn others about him....And as far as Andrew Bundermann goes....he is real ,he is a decorated member of the military, however he is NOT the same Andrew that tells women he is in love with them, and then asks for money to bring him back to the USA (from Afghanistan) for a visit and be with his woman. When that failed with me he tried to use the story that his mom was stranded in a foreign country and his money was tied up in a US bank account and he couldnt get access to it. Therefore he was wondering if I could help him and his mom out by sending money for her plane ticket!!! LOLI said I would not give him any personal info or money, I haven't heard from him since and he was soooo much in love with me too! LMAO
Again I did not send any money. I have US military friends that I talked to and they warned me that these guys were scammer's. They agreed with another poster here that a soldier does not need paper work or money to be sent so that they can come for a visit.

Beware ladies, if something seems wrong go with your gut feeling and never send money. Sorry so of you have been taken advantage, hopefully you can take legal action against them.
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by Katharina Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:34 pm
Welcome SweetAndSassy!

It's great to know that you can't be scammed! Well done getting information from real military staff. :=)
Did you get any scammers' email addresses we haven't published yet? They might help other victims who do a Google search.

Usually, we don't recommend confronting the scammers with the fact that you are on to them. They might refine their scripts to better fool future victims. But I do hope you will never be contacted by a criminal again. :D
by minnie11 Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:12 pm
just google his profile contents , you will find him everywhere...


=I am a loving, caring, faithful and honest man, love going out, to shows, live concert, the cinemas, movie theatre, love hanging out with friends, love walking in the beach at night with my angel, I am very romantic, sweet, passionate, honest, decisive, not afraid to throw myself in love with my whole being, funny, I like to joke, laugh, go out with friends , sometimes drinking and feel happy and free, love dancing, taking long walks in the woods, do trip, reading, do meditations. Tell me how you feel about this and more about yourself.=

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=My reason for writing to you was just to let the feelings flow. This is to the one I love. Everyday, I fall over and over in love with you again ... as the time goes on and a new day shows, your presence enlarges and my love grows. I just wanted to thank you for sharing and making me laugh. Thanks for being the most awesome girl a guy would ask for.=

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=wow! I dont know what else to say? its unbeleivable that a very beautiful woman like you can be single, in what directions are the men there looking at? its really funny. wow! A delectable damsel in my possession? its like xmas for me.
My aim is to meet someone serious on here,talk for a while, even on phone too, get to know you better, get to know how serious you are about longterm relationship before i can take the decision of quiting the army for us to be together for the rest of our lives.=

Landon Michael

[email protected]

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by ruthdabest Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:16 am
I am currently talking to an Andrew Bundermann and a Donald James. Later Donald told me his middle name was fabulous LOL!!!! Been talking to them both for about a week and then one after the other told me they loved me and wanted to be with me and I make them soooo happy. BTW I never met or even know them so I played along for a while. About another week passed and Andrew asked if I could be on his file. It costs $300 but then later I asked how much again and he changed it to $350 LOL! I told him I forgot how much like I was going to send it. Then about a day after Donald said that he could get his own personal phone so we could call eachother. He gave me a email to send a request for the phone line. It was [email protected]. So I emailed a request to see what it was and I got a reply back a day later saying it was approved. I noticed there was no military seal or who the email was from and a lot of misspelling. Seemed to me very fishy, and now anytime the guys come online they only focus on saying how much they miss me and then work in asking about the fee. When I don't budge then they say they gotta go right away and blah blah blah lol. So funny. I told them I may be blonde but I'm not that stupid. Then they ask if I am doubting them and if I don't trust them then we have a problem with this relationship. LMFAO! What relationship. LOL. We never met. Wow huh.
by Dotti Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:51 am
Welcome Ruth!

If you could post the email addresses these scammers used, and a few of their early emails, it will help other potential victims to avoid being scammed.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by deceivedbadly Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:47 am
I have been scammed as well by someone posing as
CSM Benson Shiffer
Benson Shiffer [[email protected]] is the email address he used. He was on a website dating over 40.
I have some emails from
US ARMY [[email protected]]
sending the requests and stuff the same as all the others. The amount they wanted was $1455 USD. I thought the whole thing was a bit bogus and found the photos online were of CSM Rocklyn Shiffer (retired).

At least I havent lost any money mostly I just feel stupid.

Julie
by RMS Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:59 am
Julie,
Sorry to you have been scammed by someone using my picture. I was informed today by a co-worker that you made a post where someone used my picture. I am concerned about scams as well. Please let me know if it happens again.

Thanks
Rock
by Dazza1965 Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:48 am
Hi from Australia. I was contacted by someone who after a few e-mails explained he was serving in Afghanistan. There are even pictures of this person in military clothing, (the kind you see in the movies with names etc on them). He gave me an e-mail address to write to his commanding officer to request leave, (this has gone on for about a month). So today, 27/02 I e-mailed this commanding officer, and surprise, I had send money to something called the finance department in the UK!!! Alarm bells went off, I didn't proceed, and it's all just sitting in my inbox till I find out if I need to forward any of it or just delete it all. The thing I am most upset about is that they are using the soldiers and the military for ill gotten gains. The guys over there are doing an awesome job and don't need to be used in this manner.... pity the govt or defence offices can't take some kind of action to protect the reputation of the forces. This is the first time I have used this site, not sure how if anyone wants to contact me can do, but I am prepared to forward all e-mails I have if they can be of any assistance in shutting down this scam.
by Ryan Hains Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:19 pm
Hi Dazza1965, Welcome to Scamwarners.

Glad you weren't scammed. If you can post the emails and Headers (Delete your own information) it will help others avoid getting scammed.

by hikergirlwny Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:00 pm
I posted some items under the Military Romance Scam. I can post stuff here if it would help. Alarm bells went off for me after about 2 days.
by Bubbles Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:04 am
Welcome to ScamWarners, if it is different information, that is fine. We prefer to keep the information about a specific scammer in one location so people searching don't get confused by having information all over the forum.

Typically if we find posts about one scammer in several places, we combine them to keep topics clean. Thank you for asking.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by lauramarie99 Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:36 pm
I have been talking to Andrew Bundermann for over a month now. I met him on Myyearbook where we traded a few e-mails and have been chatting on Yahoo since then. His screen name is bundermannandrew and the e-mail is the same as well. When we first started chatting he told me hes 36 and I told him I had googled him and they claim hes 26-28 depending on the article. He told me that they were all wrong. After about a week of talking he told me that he loved me. I asked if he thought it was too soon seeing how he doesn't even know me. He said that when you know you know. I asked him where he was deployed at he said Afghan. and proceeded to ask me how many times he had to tell me. He had always just told me he was deployed and never mentioned where. Im guess theres other women which he has denied being a player. He apologized for being brash. He keeps asking if I have told my friends and family about him. I asked him why I would seeing how we haven't met yet & there was nothing really to tell. I asked when he was coming back home and he never gave me an answer. Maybe two weeks ago he said he really want to hear my voice & wanted to get updates. Therefore he wanted me to get added to a file so all this could happen. He asked me for money so this could happen and I told him I wouldn't do it. Tonight he asked me again if I would be interested again I got no dollar amount. Hes still professing his love for me.

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