Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Dotti Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:52 pm
Scammers will often offer to fly their victims out to meet them. Only once over a period of several years have I ever encountered a scammer who did fly a victim somewhere, and he was using her as a money launderer and reshipper, and had a lot invested. (Plus the ticket was most likely paid for with a stolen credit card, as she had some difficulties at the airport.) All the rest of the scammers came up with convenient emergencies that prevented it.

It's a very typical tactic of romance scammers to show a lot of interest in their victims' children. I've encountered many who will even start referring to them as their own children, and have even convinced their victims to put the children on webcam, telling them that they are going to be their new dad. Every single time the scammer has focused on the child, it has been nothing more than a ploy to make himself look even more caring and sensitive, and to pull the victim even deeper into the scam. When the victim begins to doubt the relationship, the scammer can make her feel twice as guilty, because if she cuts him off, she risks hurting her child in addition to herself.

With that said, we still don't recommend baiting any scammer who has your real life information. While the risk of physical harm is actually extremely low, the risk of other kinds of retaliation does exist, and it's just not worth it.

Even a single email tracing to Lagos means you are most likely dealing with a young, black, Nigerian romance scammer. Everything else is most likely a proxy. If the location changed after you pointed out the differences in the IP's, that just means he started being more careful and switched to using a UK proxy full time.

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by queenbee Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:46 pm
Wow. Thanks Dotti.

To think someone would go through all the trouble and effort to try and befriend someone's children. I'm having a hard time understanding how all this effort can be profitable but I guess there are alot of people out there who will fall for sending money. I won't even make long distance phone calls for someone who is not suspicious let alone someone who is. Now I must wait for the bomb to drop, the plea for money or something else. And this one was real slick too. talked about the work of the oil fields and used some real technical terms.
by Dotti Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:16 am
Those technical terms will simply be copied from online blogs, websites, or even wikipedia.

If you can forward some of the emails he sent you to the address in my signature line, I can most likely tell you whether he is African from the writing.

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by began steele Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:36 am
Queen bee you can post the details now. We can easily verify using the text of any messages. We need the email headers too, because this scammer YES HE IS ONE is using a proxy. We will discover far more about this one, and many of us are scam hunters. Please don't bait someone you are in contact with already. They know too much about you. It won't be effective anyway because you will be found out. Dotti said go to 419eater and learn the tricks with a mentor to help. You will find many equally as deserving good causes on the site to play with.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by myrtlevere Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:44 am
Hi
I am sure the episode I had with a Louis Southgate must be one of "the gang" He said he found my profile on Facebook and started emailing me on google.com. He said he was Irish, lives in London, lost his wife in a car accident and has a 10 yr old daughter. He is an engineer, studied at Oxford. Works for Mexican Shipping Cargoes and is on his way with a cargo to Australia. After the 2nd email he professed his 'love' to me, but as there is a huge age gap - I am about 30 years his senior, he said "Age is just a number" Similar emails came that the 'gang' uses to woo the ladies. I saw red flags but carried on with the emails. He would phone me all hours from a London phone number. Eventually after 3 weeks he phoned me urgently saying that pirates were on the way to attack the ship and that he had money in his cabin (?)(can u believe that!) 280,000 pounds to buy oil in Australia to send to Mexico and that he was going to send the money to me via Western Union and I must pay 1470 dollars into their account so that they could bring the money to me in South Africa. I told him I do not have that money and said he must leave me alone and after phoning and pleading and emailing, I said I would try to lend the money from the bank just to see how he would re-act. All of the sudden I was the love of his life again! I texted him and said that he is a scammer and I was playing along to see how far he would go. Never heard from him again.
His email was [email protected]

Beware ladies! He is a smooth operator.

Regards
Myrtle
by began steele Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:04 pm
Myrtle. I bet it was a phone number like +44 702 XXXXXX , actually a redirect to Nigeria and frequently used by scammers.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by queenbee Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:42 am
Began and Dotti,

I have sent two of the email headers to Dotti's signature email. I had a hard time choosing as there are so many. My scammer goes by the name ken lareau; [email protected] and now [email protected]. He says he is living in Montreal, Canada by himself with his dog. Now working in UK on oil rig in buzzard field. He claims to be Danish. When we spoke on the phone his accent to me almost sounded Russian rather than Nigerian. I did speak with a man supposedly from LA a couple months ago and the Nigerian dialect I was able to pick up on right away. His name was Derek Brown supposedly a jewelry designer and author. The way he spoke did not match his photos and did not seem like the Portugese accent where he claimed he was from. I am a first generation American and have parents with European accents so I am familiar with some dialects and not others. How I can pick up on some right away and others not seems to depend on how skilled the scammer is.

I have taken Dotti's advice and will not bait this scammer. I am learning so much from this experience. I am still interested in knowing what his agenda is as I already told him I am not able to send money and don't try to scam me. This was in the very first email I responded to. The phone number I called kenlareau in the UK I dialed 011 44 704 5769693. My phone company has assured me after I explained the situation and my concerns that I will not incur any additional charges beyond the UK rates and that if something looks fishy they will investigate and will not hold me responsible. Should I change my phone number? It is still showing as belonging to a previous customer so I don't know if he would be able to get more info.
by Grunt Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:25 pm
44 704 5769693
redirect number
the person can be anywhere in the world

[email protected]
his pic on google+
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his yahoo avatar leads to profiles on FB

Martins Green
Owner/ President at Self Employed and Loving It!
Studied at University of Oxford
Lives in Liverpool
From London, United Kingdom

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judging by his female friends, mugu is likely to write from Malaysia

person.com
wise
USER ID: 4820730
Age: 46 (Nov 7, 1965)
Gender: Male
Country: United States
State/Region: Kentucky
City: London


clone on FB
Larry Morgan
Worked at self employed
About Larry
I'm a true believer and i know the God that I serve will se me through in this endeavor. I believe the most valuable thing in life is to have true happiness, so I strive in the lord to have as many moments of happiness as possible though it's not always so easy due to temptations. I'm more comfortable in the outdoors but find myself indoors too often. I'm kind of an introvert but funny enough I sometimes become quite the extrovert around women I like or that I think are cute. I can be very passionate when it comes to a relationship. I've never found "the one" and become more anxious about that every passing year. I truly believe I could rise to greatness if I just had the right motivation with God's approval. I have a great personality that I am so confident off. I know that God is set to give me my right woman with a godly heart. Someone have to make the first move..please if the lord has touched your heart drop me a note.
by Grunt Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:48 pm
facebook.com
Bruce White
Studied at California State University, Northridge
Widowed

Favorite Quotations
if someone want the Key of every heart then TRY LOVE..

About Bruce
I enjoy life in a quite,peaceful and loving manner.I avoid conflicting situations that may interrupt my inner peace.

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also in his album
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have a look at his dark-colored hands
does not really fit with his pics :lol:

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by queenbee Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:51 pm
Well done. Thank you. I reported Derek Brown to the dating site several weeks ago and his profile disappeared. I have tried to report ken101231 but they have not responded. I wonder what it will take for them to remove his profile as I don't want other women falling into his trap. I know he is still on the site as I have friends watching.
by began steele Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:58 am
Thanks queenbee and the excellent Mrs Grunt. We both like taking scammers to pieces and you have saved me the work here. I appreciate how long it takes to put it all together. Basic searches of email address in Google, and image searches will often give results and include text searches too for small sections of a message. You will be lucky and find an increasing resource of information put out by the criminal. Centralising it here and on Romancescam helps others and does the thief maximum possible damage.
Even if Mugu has been told you have no money he will continue with the scam and try to gain a relationship. He may even resort to threats and attempts at blackmail, but by any means he will have an agenda which is to remove you from some money. He may try sending expensive presents and even cheques, but for sure he will work hard at getting some cash.
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We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by queenbee Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:58 pm
Ken101231 was finally removed from the dating site this morning, along with two obvious military scammers. He will likely just submit a new profile using different pics and new user ID.
by began steele Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:21 pm
He lives on here.
http://123singles.com/user/ken101231

Madam.eu - Dating site - User ken101231
madam.eu/?x=fTgTeF4SFUV7flJPLPYGFcFfTgXeF4REVMTE1M=

Znakomstva.eu - Dating site
znakomstva.eu/en/Natiya/photos/Cached
ken101231 (43) United Kingdom.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.

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