Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Terminator5 Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:57 pm
Definate scam . Ghana is the romance scammer capitol of the planet . Private message me or someone else with this individuals details so it can be investigated.

Daniel 8 :25
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by justbeenscammed Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:15 pm
Don't give up on your Dad no matter how stubborn he might be these scammers suck you in before you even realise and take a hold on you and your life. I have only just joined this forum having come close to being scammed on an online dating site. I am an intelligent, professional but can't believe how quick these people work on you, my scammer even when he/she realised I had seen through what they were doing wished me luck, they stop at nothing and prey on people's vulnerabilities and loneliness and will not stop until they get what they want or you see through them. Could you not report your concerns to the US consulate oh where your Dad is going as I am sure you will not be the first to have to do this. My brother is a detective and after telling him my experience admittedly embarrassed he told me not to be embarrassed it is happening all the time but needs to be reported ...But like most of the other posters would be great to stop him getting on the plane.
by Pa Mantis Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:13 am
DownDaughter wrote:... If he isn't willing to be rational about the situation, then there is nothing that I can do to help him or to change his mind about it all..

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If it becomes clear he is not susceptible to reason and is not listening to family members,
have the government officials such as social-workers or police speak to him directly about this fraud,
that may wake him up to the reality of the situation.

If that doesn't work it may be possible to obtain power of attorney if he is assessed by a doctor as not mentally capable, (e.g. suffering from dementia).

http://www.canadianelderlaw.ca/Power%20 ... torney.htm

He could then not have access to large sums of money, nor leave the country.

Having ones father declared mentally unfit to run their own affairs is extreme, but may be necessary to save his life, (as well as his savings).

attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca wrote:... If judged incapable, the person may be assigned a substitute decision maker or a guardian whose role is to make the decisions necessary to protect his or her personal and/or financial health

http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.c ... e-0505.pdf
by Clair Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:56 am
DownDaughter, So sorry you are going through this with your father. It is really frightening. Just don't give up on him. Do you have any identifying information on this "woman" at all? The name she is using, email addresses, telephone numbers, etc? If so, please PM them to me or one of the other members here so we can do some investigating.
by began steele Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:09 pm
I have spoken to a friend of mine and the matter is serious.
Your father is not a Muslim and will get no help from any Authorities. It is worse than that because if he is supected of any dealIng with a criminal, victim or not, he will go to prison for at least 6 months. If it involves a female he will disappear in the desert and you will not get a body back. If he meets a criminal he will vanish into the desert. If it involves any Authority he will get 18 months minimum. If a foreigner steps out of line-6 MONTHS. No Ifs or Buts and soft words THAT IS EXACTLY AS MY FRIEND STATES.

That means he will not be coming back.

Why should someone fly from Ghana to Dubai to go to Canada? It is nonsense.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by tinker Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:53 pm
I have checked an Canadian citizens require a visa to Dubai. I know this might be extreme but you may want to speak to personnel at the Dubai Embassy as well as Canada's INS. If your dad can't get a visa, he won't be allowed on the plane.

I am so sorry. Good luck.
by Clair Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:37 pm
I am also hoping for an update. I hope everything is OK.
by 54321 Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:15 am
Has anyone tried PM'ing DownDaughter yet? If not, I will do so, in case that gives her a nudge to update the thread.

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by Clair Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:33 pm
No, I haven't PM'd her.
by DownDaughter Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:53 pm
I'm told people were looking for an update on the situation.

It is simply this,
I've decided that since he has chosen to go through getting scammed voluntarily because hope has blinded him, that I just can't subject myself to his poor choices anymore.

Basically all I can do is protect myself at this point, and that means cutting my dad out of my life and realizing he isn't going to ever listen to me because I am a female who doesn't think rationally because of all those emotions women have clouding up our brains, and because I am a small baby child in his eyes.

Really he's kind of just a jerk, and as much as it sucks to see him get scammed, I'm not going to let it bring me down anymore. It is his choice despite all the feedback and proof i've given to him.

He won't give me much information, and he needs a severe reality check.

He's just too much of the victim mentality to actually break through to. :roll:
by began steele Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:16 pm
Thank you for this. I understand your thoughts completely, and you can't wear yourself out completely over it. My Mother had senile dementia and as it got worse I had to stop visiting her, because I couldn't cope with it. My family subjected me to all sorts of criticism. In fact I was actually following the advice of the mental health nurse who was part of the team looking after her. So it's fine to step aside if you need to and nobody can or should blame you. I must say the ideas posted above are good, and as was said, he needs a visa. If he can't think it through properly there is a chance he will say something that will raise a few questions and he may not actually get there. Keep everything crossed and hopefully you will let us know how it progresses

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by 54321 Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:48 am
DownDaughter wrote:I'm told people were looking for an update on the situation.

It is simply this,
I've decided that since he has chosen to go through getting scammed voluntarily because hope has blinded him, that I just can't subject myself to his poor choices anymore.

Basically all I can do is protect myself at this point, and that means cutting my dad out of my life and realizing he isn't going to ever listen to me because I am a female who doesn't think rationally because of all those emotions women have clouding up our brains, and because I am a small baby child in his eyes.

Really he's kind of just a jerk, and as much as it sucks to see him get scammed, I'm not going to let it bring me down anymore. It is his choice despite all the feedback and proof i've given to him.

He won't give me much information, and he needs a severe reality check.

He's just too much of the victim mentality to actually break through to. :roll:


Hey there,

Firstly, thanks for the update. I think a lot of people have wondered how you are, so take heart that you have support here.

Is there anything we could do to help you? Could you show him this thread? Could we provide some info about this type of scam for you to give to him? Please let us know if you think of anything.

It's totally understandable that you want to guard yourself from your dad. Your first priority has to be your wellbeing. It's draining and frustrating dealing with people who are stubborn and unwilling to consider/admit their mistakes.

Take care, and please keep us posted with any pertinent news.

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by Pa Mantis Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:30 am
DownDaughter wrote:... all I can do is protect myself at this point, and that means cutting my dad out of my life and realizing he isn't going to ever listen to me because I am a female who doesn't think rationally because of all those emotions women have clouding up our brains, and because I am a small baby child in his eyes.

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If his financial self-harm was a way of getting attention from you, then stopping contact sounds like a good idea, however I would still try to get social-workers or similar agency involved.

In the UK social-services have specific policies/training to deal with cases of "vulnerable adults" who are being exploited. Probably something similar exists in Canada. Social-workers may be able to address his loneliness problem via involvement in adult-daycare, or arrange home-visits by vetted volunteers. These orchestrated social interactions could divert him from communicating with scammers.

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