Information on romance scams and scammers.
by kryonide Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:12 pm
Have you someone please check John Graves? I would like to know how he is.
thanks
Advertisement

by jolly_roger Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:21 am
Hello kryonide. Some more details would be helpful please. Do you refer to John Graves the ex fbi employee?
I seem to recall he is now involved with financial type scams if my memory is correct?
Perhaps you refer to someone entirely different? Could you publish an e-mail, the email header, an email from said person would be great, maybe phone number? Any additional information would be most helpful.
by kryonide Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:53 am
Unfortunately, that information is now little, look at the profile on facebook.

http://facebook.com/graves.john1

Works in society: U.S Army
Lives in: Miami, Florida
man

deleted from the rest of what I wrote to him
kryonide
by began steele Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:01 am
Figure out why he is Graves John and not John Graves. :mrgreen: I won't say why. Will get someone to discover more. Scammers don't miss chance to scam

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by kryonide Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:32 pm
so the answer is YES?
One of the other?
by began steele Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:22 pm
No profile, no info, just a photo that I can't find. Pretty much normal for a fake profile, which I am almost sure it is.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by jolly_roger Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:06 am
Hi kryonide. Sorry for the slow response. Unable to go see on the link because it asked to login. I needed to look on someone elses computer, as I don't have fb. The profile showed a lack of information I thought, but maybe because was created in Dec 2012 (not long ago). Was unable to find any info on the photo. Difficult to determine at this time whether fake or not. However I would ask you to stay on the side of caution with this one. Sorry - simply not enough info at this stage to be 100% certain.
by kryonide Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:59 pm
small excerpt from our interview

Graves John
hello ........
.........
hi John

Graves John
i like your profile pic
..........
why?

Graves John
because you are gorgeous i can't hide it away from you
.....
Thanks, but what is beautiful to me

Graves John
i wish to let you know of this
you are charming I'm charmed by your beauty
......
John, what for you are not pretty women?

Graves John
sorry I'm not a woman i' m man
if I'm not lie i desire your beauty
.............
I thought there for you in your country if you are nice women

Graves John
okay
if you don't mind can i know more of you
............
What would you like to know? Everything is written on the profile

Graves John
i just want to know if you are married
...........
Yes, I am married, why? It is suddenly a problem

Graves John
is not
i pray knowing you more may bring us to a cordial relationship that would probably last for ever. hope you don't mind
............
This is your son in that photo?

Graves John
yeah
.........
What gave you that idea?

Graves John
i don't understand please
..............
Do not understand you

31. prosinec 2012

Graves John
friend as we gloriously match to the end of this year,may the power of the most high metamorphosize you into 2013 with great joy and answer to your pray happy new year in advance..
........
Hi John,
I wish you and your son to wish for the new year all the best, happiness and health

Graves John
hi .......
........
Hallo John

Graves John
how is the pretty lady doing
........
Well, thank you
and you?

Graves John
i can't lie about it thinking of you
........
Why do you think of me?

Graves John
because i like you
......... you are something else...pretty indeed
..........
Thank you very nice, but what I'm different?

Graves John
how are you different pretty
........
John, do you recognize other pretty women? They are even nicer

Graves John
i don't really understand.. is crime to like you
........
No it's not a crime, but it is unrealistic

Graves John
Jana i just hope if i can make a rain and you be under my wealth
.........
How I'm able to understand it?

Graves John
to let you know how much i care
by jolly_roger Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:16 pm
Thankyou for adding some more information. Reading the excerpt, does not instill a great deal of confidence. I notice you ask the individual some questions whereby the responces are vague and poor. If I was writing to a lady, I'd do my best to answer any questions that were asked. I don't want to give too much away but the writing is not quite right. That would not be the news you seek but I've the inclination to agree with Dotti.
I would love to give people good news sometimes but cannot in this instance.
by kryonide Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:45 pm
Well it's a shame that I can not give more information other information from his profile are unfortunately deleted. And it does not communicate with me, I tried to find out more.

I still have one request. It is possible to find out whose photo was the first one? Or where it can be found? thank you
by began steele Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:11 pm
I did try to find the photo AND FAILED.
Image
I played with the name a liitle and find Paul Graves miltary scammer, [email protected] .
http://usaconsumercomplaints.com/miscel ... etcom.html
Complaint information
03.15.2012
SeniorPeopleMeet.com

I met a Paul Graves via SeniorPeoplemeet.com. He said he was a Sgt. in Afghanistan. He would be retiring in a month, yet he could not give me a retirement date. He said he owned a home in Liberty, SC. He has a 9 year old son, named Bryant. Bryant would turn 10 on 3/15/2012. Bryant was his only living relative. Bryant wanted a laptop for his birthday, "Paul" could not get it for him. Bryant's care taker Prince Obiri, Osekan St. 104, Ghana, Accera 00233 was broke and could not buy a gift for "Paul's" son. "Paul" wanted me to buy birthdays gift for his son. I did not believe him, questioned him on many levels and he would not answer or give vague explanations. I did not send any money or gifts. I put the Ghana address in a yahoo search and found Tiny's complaint. He sent me a photo, he was in camo uniform holding a young boy. He said his e-mail was [email protected] . Not so. I looked up Prince Obiri, he lives in the US.


I met Sgt.Paul Graves via SinglesNet dating service. He claims to be 54 years old with an 11 year old son named Mike. He states "Mike" is being cared for by a friend of his Price Obiri in Ghana,Accura.Prince Obiri lives in the United States. He was contacting me through Yahoo Messenger with the email address of [email protected] . I checked the Military base in Afghanistan he claimed to be stationed at - no record of him was found as well as the US base of Fort Jackson in Libery, SC. He indicated he would be through with his tour of duty on October 3, 2012, had to fly to Ghanna, Accura to pick up his son& & was returning home to Queens,NY.He even went as far a placing two calls to me to say "Hi" because he wanted to hear my voice. I had the phone number checked as well, it to traces back to Ghana. Sgt.Paul Graves has a loud & clear profile of doing this for some time, the profile appears under "Scammers Alert". He made reference to his sons birthday being September,24 2012 & asked if I could send $500 to Prince Obriri so he could invite his classmates over for a birthday party. He indicated I could send the money Western Union to Prince Obiri, Ghana,Accura 00233. When I refused he became very persistant stating he just wanted the little guy to have a nice birthday. A fraud alert investigator indicated she has tracked him before & that "Military Romance Scams"are running rampid. This is a highly specialized network in Ghana & the investigator indicates they cover their tracks extremely well. Be careful out there ladies. I hope this protects & helps someone else from SGT. Paul Graves.

The above email gives this FB Scammer.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004293849292

The name is not so common in my search with army, but I found a few such as Micheal Graves -scammer.

I am not sure if the pic has an added name, but if not the the scammer is stuck with it.
See the scammer here with a boy. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=45051

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by jolly_roger Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:58 am
kryonide wrote:Well it's a shame that I can not give more information other information from his profile are unfortunately deleted. And it does not communicate with me, I tried to find out more.

I still have one request. It is possible to find out whose photo was the first one? Or where it can be found? thank you


That is a ploy sometimes used by scammers. To remove a profile before they are banned. I notice on so called dating sites, many scam profiles have little information. If the scammer realises or feels you cannot be fleeced, of course it will not respond. The only thing a scammer cares of is getting it's hand inside your purse.
As for the photo? Spent considerable time looking but cannot find the image. I don't even recognize the building in the background and unable to clearly see the yellow writing. Thankyou for the report because it will alert others in future.
by kryonide Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:48 am
A few more examples of his writing for me:

Graves John
........ i just wish if my favor will be granted just that i have been so worried since yesterday that i receive this email i decide to keep it to myself i said to you may be of help to my son the guiding email me telling me a lot of things that my son is lack that he need my attention i promise to my son i will always be there in time of needs which i can't not present right now because i'm in far destination is to danger for me to be parading about Jane can you help me and send money across to my son if I'm back i will refund you back i promise you are not doing it for me alone for the sake we love each other and his your son to please I'm pleading do it for my son don't forget he is your son to ........ love you

..... how are you doing i just wish if you can render this help to me promise to pay you back try and help this poor boy..


Is not a threaten but you are wicked mark my word if i should back from camp i will visit you

you can't not even help the poor boy what can of a human being are you
You don't need to understand me okay
Go I hate you with passion i focus on you all the plan build is because of you

Boy is very sick Jane you need to help me out i will pay you back i can't start coming back to Miami please
You upset me
HELP HELP
by began steele Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:04 am
Is not a threaten but you are wicked

This is typical of how nasty scammers really are. He has a nerve calling anyone wicked when he is the scum of the earth and an outright liar. I note iN one breathe it's
we love each other
PHOOEY!
In the next it's cheap insults.
you can't not even help the poor boy what can of a human being are you

He threatens you and tries to say it is not one. What is it if t is not one ?
Is not a threaten but you are wicked mark my word if i should back from camp i will visit you

And now the truth because the filthy maggot won't manage to steal money as a reward for the utter lies.
Go I hate you with passion
:=)
This is what scammers do , say and are. SHEER FILTH

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], ClaudeBot, Majestic-12 [Bot] and 13 guests