Information on romance scams and scammers.
by andee2103 Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:57 am
To Smith Jones; I can't go back through past conversations as had to take my tablet back to factory setting because of a problem, and we really don't email much. I can however remember everything and no he gives me much more information than I do him, so that doesn't fit. I've even gone so far as to check out people that are his friends on his FB page, that includes one friend, a woman who I have become very good friends with too, I have no doubts about her at all, she is real and lives in Texas and has known him for many years. Through him I have experienced his brothers traditional Igbo marriage ceremony by video. I met his brothers, father and sister, and many other relatives and friends. He has told me all about his life while I have kept most of mine to myself. His oldest brother pays for his post graduate university studies. I have seen their home which was the home of his father and mother before she died in 2007. I have the address, his phone number, we do talk on the phone also with him calling me the majority of the time. We share a mutual affection, of that I feel quite sure of, and he doesn't use any of those phrases you told me about. My initial doubts came from the scare stories about Nigerian men, which there are a lot of, the longer I know him the more I see that he's as real as you and me. I have been keeping my eyes wide open believe me, and kept him at arms length for the first few weeks. Thank you so much though, I really appreciate what you've said all of you. I came back to see if any more answers had been posted, I'm nosy. Again thanks.
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by Bryon Williams Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:23 am
We have continually answered your questions and gave our opinions. We have asked you for more information to investigate it. You have failed to do same. Each time we give an opinion you defend it.

Once again. I will offer my phone number and email address if you want to talk about this. Just send me a PM for the number or I can call you.

If you were at peace you would not make this comment.
Thank you so much though, I really appreciate what you've said all of you. I came back to see if any more answers had been posted

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by Bryon Williams Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:09 am
"I'm holding your words of love in my heart, so I can take them out and look at them when I'm not talking to you."

"oh I can beautify it with my:-) heart and paint it with my soul."


You posted that he said these phrases to you. These phrases are not from a person who is from Nigeria. These phrases were made by an West African (Nigerian) scammer who stole these phrases off the internet.

We are here to help you. bryonwilliams.sw @gmail.com (Remove the space)

If these things did not happen this forum and others would not be here. I know it is difficult to believe. Romance scammers work on emotions and breaking down their victims. They like to get the victim off their regular sleeping habits and eating habits. Most of all they like to tear you away from friends and family.

Here you are anonymous and can talk freely with out any criticism. Contact me.

Bryon

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by DaisyJaime Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:35 am
Scammers are professional liars and thieves in Nigerian, pls keep your mind in clearly, once you went there it is out of your control. no body can help you if you are in danger . do not believe him, scammers always let people think they are not scammers , but in fact they are.
by Smith Jones Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:34 pm
I have to tell you that my scammer was highly sophisticated. He targeted me. He showed as being from my city, had a local phone number where we texted. He then went to Vancouver to visit family supposedly, called me from there, had his mother talk to me (I'm convinced it was what is known as a morph, the scammer using electronics to change his voice). He then went to Malaysia, with another phone number. He was very convincing, which is why I ended up falling in love and giving him money.
Just remember, as stated, these guys are PROS at getting us to believe them. They have a whole arsenal of items to use to convince us they are the real deal. You have videos, he has shared his life. Do you know there are people scammers have set up to accept their money, help with their deals? This could be how his friends who are on Facebook function.
All we can say is watch out. If you have been here and have posted and have read the comments, you know something is up. You suspect something isn't quite right. Please trust your gut. Please see the manipulation for what it is. I know the feeling- you so WANT to believe. I've been there. I know.
by Tomokata Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:17 pm
A Pro-Dater is someone who finds a potential victim according to their preferred profiles, and then pretends to foster a romantic relationship with them in order to get money from them at a later date.

Often times scammers like these will choose someone who does not have a lot of money because they lack the resources to pursue them once the scam is perpetrated. Once the romantic link is established, they know that often the person they are scamming will go to great lengths (and go into great debt) in order to help them. They are consummate actors.

They will seem absolutely legitimate, often fostering "real" friends who know nothing about their scam. This adds legitimacy.

However, the only way to really define whether or not this is a scam is if he asks for money. Don't send it. No matter what your heart tells you. It could be for anything; travel to see you, a sick relative, a sudden emergency. In one case there was even a long involved tale about how the scammer was scammed (!) and if he didn't pay off the debts he'd accumulated due to the scam he'd go to jail.

If he is truly in love with you he will understand that you can't send him money. If its a scam, he'll high-pressure you for as long as he can, and when he realizes you're not giving up any cash, you'll never hear from him again.
by DaisyJaime Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:42 am
Tomokata said that is right , anyway keep your mind clearly when you are talking business with nigerians

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