Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Eve Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:02 pm
Nathan Page contacted me on Dating in London some months ago. Canadian, under a process of relocating to London, Canary Wharf. After few weeks of exhanging messages via dating site he insisted on taking our friendship to more private ground, to the Yahoo. There was rather general exhange of views, not much private. Then he introduced himself as a gold and diamond dealer, traveling a lot around the world withg lots of all kind of businesses going on. That was enough for me. Stoped all contacts with him. After few days he send me the very same innitial messages. Than again. He has forgotten that he has already contacted me. I haven't saved his profile or his messages, neither his photo. The only thing I saved was header from his first email. Thought, well, the men is gone, forgotten.
Not really. This is what I have received some days ago. I've got the impression that my previous scamer Gerald Kalt is behind this name. Haven't opened the contain of his message.


Sun, June 20, 2010 7:43:21 PMA little notification about the acc's expiration from support
From: Nathan Paige <[email protected]> Add to Contacts
To:


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http://www.sqn2.software4you-c.com

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Here is his full header from the time when he first contacted me:


From Nathan Paige Thu Mar 18 20:13:38 2010
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References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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Last edited by Eve on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by Eve Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:07 pm
And this is full header from Nathan's last email.

From Nathan Paige Sun Jun 20 18:43:21 2010
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:43:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nathan Paige <[email protected]>
Subject: A little notification about the acc's expiration from support
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by GomerPyle Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:03 am
I don't see why dating sites don't post it up clearly that anyone asking you to make them a cash payment is a scammer, and then have a report button.

I know nothing about these places, though having said that, I've had an online relationship over several years and I sent presents but would never have sent cash under any circumstances. It is my belief that a dating site is not providing a service to its users by failing to protect them and that they are harming themselves commercially by allowing 'sharks' to abuse their sites and other users.

I've noticed from various reports that scammers like to separate their victims from the dating sites as quickly as possible after contact, presmably due to the risk that other users will expose them.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Eve Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:32 am
Yes, you are right about dating sites not really providing services the are advertising for. It is their responsibiklity to provide proper check up of submited profiles to avoid harm to their customers. They do not do that. I do not think their employees work for free or just it is a charity work. They are paid to do so. They relly on us , victims to do their job for them and report any kind of scum to them and eventuialy they do react or they just ignore complains. I have had quite a nasty exhange with Military Companions where for a FEW WEEKS ALL AND i MEAN ALL PEOPLE CONTACTING ME WERE SCAMERS AND IT WAS CLEARLY VISABLE FORM THE FIRST MOMENT. Why should we do their work for them? I won't be back to the agency which compromise my safety and put my financial, emotional and phisical wellbeing into serious risk.
I won't be doing any internet dating any more anyhow.
by Eve Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:43 am
I've found Nathan Page photo being on http://www.delphifaq.com under names:Thomas Kelly or Thomas Kellyy,or Gerald Brown or Gerald Green. My former scamer name was Gerald Kalt, seems scamer likes using this name, just changed the very surname. Make his work easier. Can be the very same man. He couldn't get over loseing source of income and is trying to get into my good books again under all sort of false profiles. SOB, go get decent job you lazy, underdeveloped criminal, stop hurting people for living. Hell will open one day and tke you in for ever. Photo are on the way.
Last edited by Eve on Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
by Crispy Duck Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:09 am
Photo as sent by OP.

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