Information on romance scams and scammers.
by falster Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:28 am
I have recently been part of an attempted scam by a person who originally started off using the pseudonym of another person - Marc Angel, a politician from Brussels.
A petrochemical engineer (supposedly), a black man portraying himself as living in Melbourne, prior in Adelaide, skype address as vee yorke. emails used: [email protected] also [email protected] viber mobile number 0420 213 664. Uses the name Victor Vandaele, Vee Vandaele, Vee Yorke. scamming from Oasis.com
Intricate web of lies and stories to finally hand over a fake passport ID. Fairly clued on in terms of a romance scam, would even video call via viber. Unusual that they put a face to the voice. Very clever, no geotagging on photos, ID DOB matches documents and Skype profile etc. ISP address of emails actually source back to the US even though he was meant to be in Australia, visiting Tehran for a project and came from Sth Africa. Supposedly grew up in Korea and served in the army there. Has quite large scarring on left elbow.
Started the whole romance line with the basics, quickly moving to I love you, I will be there in a few days. Sick dad. You know the story!!

Not sure how to insert images here, but have plenty to load on. If someone can help with this, I'd love to upload them to assist others.
Seems well educated. Well spoken and writes well grammatically. WATCH OUT.
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by Bryon Williams Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:38 am
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by falster Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:11 am
Hello XXX, thank you for the mail. I hope this email finds you healthy and well adjusted, how are you doing? Good I guess.... I have my free time now so thought I should give you full knowledge about me.

I am a Belgian the child of a military man who went to participate in the Korean war, fell in love with the country and live there for 14years before finally returning to his home town Han Sur Lesse, Belgium . I have been married with my ex wife who was a medical doctor for 16years but got divorced 5 years ago, we had no child but lived with my step son (Stan) 28 years of age who returned to resides in the States...

Work for me is more of my passion. I totally enjoy everything the management team has to offer. I am a certified Petrochemical Engineer with Hyundai Motors for 12 years but resigned to become a contractor For a smaller firm under Hyundai Groups; my specialty is get contract from Hyundai and other companies and execute it, I buy lands,
golf course, oil well, factories, tower cranes, ship, etc....basically for Hyundai Group and other firm merged with them, So I shuttle Middle, Europe and Oceania 3 times a year but spend most of my time in Australia where I call home. I have been living in Australia for over 2 years where I have settled because of the expansion of my business. The opportunity to travel to wonderful countries is more of the many bonuses.




In theory, I am a team builder, in reality I am a lonely gentleman – not desperate – but desirous of good company. I am open, inspired, friendly and accommodating. I respect everyone regardless of gender, nationality or social status. I have had my own fair share of relationship tales, some I’m not too proud of, and others I choose to retain the memories. I am equally a business mind; I see opportunities where others see trouble. For instance, my business operations today within the Middle east is a high risk, high profit venture, both carrying the same weight and consequences. That said, I cannot over emphasize the fact that I am a risk taker.
Relationship wise, I am searching for someone to share my life with – the good, the bad and the ugly.
And so far with the very little I have known about you I have a strong feeling that I might have met her. I’m hoping I’d find a lady that is genuine, honest, kind and celebrates the sanctity of a one man one woman union. I enjoy poetry, good music, I do laugh at myself. I am not afraid to show my weaknesses or to show my limitations. I am confident and proud to be who I am.
I am spiritual; I respect every religion and also cherish my one on one relationship with the Almighty. I do everything the easy going way. I believe in Karma thus I weigh all my actions on the principle of doing good to others. I am Christian. I believe in Jesus and I serve and worship him. At my stage and level of maturity, I have grown to take one day at a time. I am completely open. You can tell when I am happy or sad, when I’m shy or confident – Its such a tragedy that I can’t hide anything. (Laughing).
I am truthful, honest and loyal to my beliefs and relationships. I am also being truthful when I say that I feel blessed getting to know you and writing you. For some reason yet unknown to me, by following my heart, I can sense a serenity within you that transcends human comprehension. I know bad people when I see them. I can sense people who can or cannot add any value to my life and people that cannot allow me to add value to their life. Thus, I do feel a very positive energy from you. You are and I know it, a good person.




Over the course of time, I may sometimes appear to be forward or ahead of myself. The reason is mainly because I play and replay everything in my head and sometimes assume the other party is in line with my thought frequency. What I mean is, I could like you so much over so little and won’t hide it from you. I don’t play games; I say things as they are. I hope you understand this part of my personality as in the past people have judged me wrongly as a result of my honesty and sometimes forward nature. You may assume that I am a nut crack – lonely Vee - when I tell you my feelings – sometimes a bit too soon. Sadly again, I don’t have an agenda. I simply follow my heart. It is also not a sign of desperation, it is my fragile nature. I love love and I love so easily.
when I tell you my feelings – sometimes a bit too soon. Sadly again, I don’t have an agenda. I simply follow my heart. It is also not a sign of desperation, it is my fragile nature. I love love and I love so easily.
I believe in Love songs, I believe in romance. I am judged by my friends to be the lady in their gathering. OK, (not cool I guess - laughing) but I do enjoy chick flicks. I've probably seen all the chick flicks in all languages of the world. (Just Kidding – Laughing) – Remember, no judging. I wonder why I should go see a movie where the entire world is blown to pieces, than see a happy romantic movie that tells the story of love. There’s no end to the peace and joy that follows at the end of every love story.
Lastly, I take the time to explain things in order to avoid misunderstanding and misinterpretations. Most people see this as trying too hard, but that is who I am. No baggage, No worries. My biggest passion in life is to retire to a wonderful island, have a big boat and a private air strip with a branded personal Jet to myself and have a close knit family to love and cater for. Leave the worries of the world and fly to Las Vegas for the night if I need to. (Laughing). Remember no judging, I do have big dreams and I work for it.
Financially, I am stable, I have good savings. I earn a reasonable income, I pay my taxes and I give annually to good causes. I spend wisely, sometimes randomly but factually, I keep a mental diary of things that I need and I know where to find them.
I’m a self-certified chef (laughing). I buy cook books and I experiment. I prefer eating in and I like the taste of my own food. Lunch usually is always out but breakfast and dinner is always my treat. If I get the chance to be with you, I’d probably spoil you with food. Now, that’s a promise! (Laughing)
I am well-traveled. I have been in all continents. My professional requirements made it so as I have a number of A-List clienteles that require my services (anytime) globally. Thus, I fly around often (3 times a year). Work wise, I am cutting down on the trips to enable me settle down and start a life with someone special. Some ladies just don’t like not having their men around – I’m sure you are one of them (Smiles). I am prepared to make that sacrifice.
Finally, I am a happy go lucky. I laugh a lot. I crack myself up when I need to. I get angry like every other human being, I have fears as well but at the end of the day, I detoxify and let every disappointment slide with the night. Believing that sorrow may last for the night, but Joy always comes in the morning.
I hope you’d find this information helpful in getting to know my personality. I hope it does not turn you off . All this being said and to seal everything will be meeting you face to face over dinner or something.
by falster Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:15 am
An email he sent twice::

I want to write a little bit about what I have come to understand to be destiny or fate - depends on your perception of it.
Destiny is when your father and mother, two total strangers met each other. The circumstances surrounding their meeting, the exact words your father or mother said that made them agree to go on that first date is called “Destiny”. The same applies to me.Destiny is when your father in his nervousness knelt on one heel and proposed to your mother. After having rehearsed what he would say
and perhaps played it over and over again in his head. The words he chose, the actions he took and the hope he had could be summed up to one word – “Destiny”. The same applies to me.
Destiny is when your mother said yes to your father’s incoherent proposal not minding the words he said but just waiting for the words she wants to hear; jumped around the room and held on to your dad, screaming as loud as she could “Oh My God!!! We are getting married! YES!!! YESS!!! I’d marry you”. That is “Destiny” and the same applies to me.
Destiny is when your parents got married in that big or small church, mosque or temple (depends on their faith), surrounded by the many friends and relatives who wished them nothing but love and success. When they said their “I do’s”. When they kissed and when they became man and wife. When your dad danced for the first time with your mom, their first dance as a couple. Yes, that moment is called “Destiny” and the same applies to me.
Destiny is when they got home, tore off their clothes and had that long passionate love making, their first love as a couple. The heat of the moment when theirs bodies joined as one, the kisses that your dad gave in the right places, the hugs and the love making, their first love making as a couple; all that is summed up into one word “Destiny” and the same applies to me.
Destiny is the day and the circumstances that surrounded your parents love making the night or day you were conceived. Your dad’s decision not to use a condom and your mom’s decision not to use contraceptives when their bodies collided and their fruit combined to form a tiny little being which would soon grow to become a woman.
Destiny is what made your mom carry you in her womb for as long as she did and gave her the strength to give birth to a child that she gave you a name. That is “Destiny” and the same applies to me.
Destiny is when you grew and became a woman, met the best and bad boys had the good and bad relationships. Everything that happened from your childhood days till when you became a woman can all be summed up into one word, “Destiny” and the same applies to me.
Destiny is when you made the decision to marry or have a relationship with your ex, when you made every good or bad decision that led you on to this point in life. The decisions that made it so that you are reading this email today. The sum of all your actions, words, decisions from your baby days to today, every good and bad action, is summed up into the word “Destiny” and the same applies to me.
Destiny is when you took the initiative to go online, the words you typed in your profile, the look on your face when you gave your credit card, the hopes or fears the sum of all the actions that kept you online, the people you have met online, the ones you like and the one’s you don’t. The good or bad boy who did good or bad to you, the one you wished you could have, the sum of it all is called “Destiny”. The same applies to me.
Destiny started for me when I opened my messages online and found you. My first impression of you, the thoughts that ran through my head, the feelings either good or bad, the anxiety, the anticipation, the sum of everything that led me to say “Hello”, that led you to respond or otherwise, whatever it be that brought us together to this point – all of them is summed up to one word “Destiny” and I’m sure the same applies to you.
Destiny is our little fate now. Regardless of how much I know about you or how little you know about me, our willingness to consider a relationship with each other, our willingness to put everything that common sense requires behind us and our yearnings, our hopes and anticipations our patience to see what happens between us is what I would call “Destiny”.
We may choose to hand it all up to destiny or we may choose to question each other. We may have chosen to just go with the flow or we may choose to thread slowly. We may choose to consider each other like we were meant for each other or we may choose to fear. We may choose to recall that we have barely met in the past 1 week or we may choose to just let ourselves go with our profession of feelings for one other. We may choose to secretly long and yearn for each other or we may choose to apply self-control here and there…
As we have chosen to be together, our fate is in the hands of destiny and no one can tear that away since we are willing and want to stay together, this man, this heart, this soul is yours forever. It will exist to serve you, it will exist to nurture you, and it will exist to be yours now and forever more. I'm a faithful and truthful person. I'm a loyal companion and a genuine lover. I have the heart, I've always had it but almost never have had the chance to let it beat for anyone in my entire life. If you are the one for me I want it to beat for you -
Most people might think this is insane, but I think this is maturity. I think I am old enough to know who I want to be with, mature enough to know that relationships needs to be worked on to make it stronger and I am intelligent enough to know if we are meant for each other! If we are I am ready to make that sacrifice, now tell me are you? Now we just have to meet and find out...
I will be traveling to Tehran, Iran tomorrow morning to purchase crude, I will be back in no time and I will definitely keep in contact...
by Grunt Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:25 am
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veeyorke - Victor Yorke
Location: Australia
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by Cranky Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:06 pm
I basically got the same emails....... has not asked for money, however is always in a bad financial state an makes me feel sorry or him.
by Bryon Williams Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:42 pm
That is the scammers goal.

He will use religion, fake children or whatever it takes to steal your money.

If you have new information like a new email address, phone numbers or scripts he is using please post it.

Where did you find the scammer?

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Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


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by Woodywoodpecker Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:53 am
I had the same emails from Victor Vandaele but with different photos. How do I up load them quote="falster"]I have recently been part of an attempted scam by a person who originally started off using the pseudonym of another person - Marc Angel, a politician from Brussels.
A petrochemical engineer (supposedly), a black man portraying himself as living in Melbourne, prior in Adelaide, skype address as vee yorke. emails used: [email protected] also [email protected] viber mobile number 0420 213 664. Uses the name Victor Vandaele, Vee Vandaele, Vee Yorke. scamming from Oasis.com
Intricate web of lies and stories to finally hand over a fake passport ID. Fairly clued on in terms of a romance scam, would even video call via viber. Unusual that they put a face to the voice. Very clever, no geotagging on photos, ID DOB matches documents and Skype profile etc. ISP address of emails actually source back to the US even though he was meant to be in Australia, visiting Tehran for a project and came from Sth Africa. Supposedly grew up in Korea and served in the army there. Has quite large scarring on left elbow.
Started the whole romance line with the basics, quickly moving to I love you, I will be there in a few days. Sick dad. You know the story!!

Not sure how to insert images here, but have plenty to load on. If someone can help with this, I'd love to upload them to assist others.
Seems well educated. Well spoken and writes well grammatically. WATCH OUT.[/quote]

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