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by denblue Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:45 pm
Please advise if this is a scam--
Hi I received contact via a dating site "Friends at Yours .com) I am based in UK & his profile said he was 50 divorced for 1 year following 10 yrs of marriage. His base was Leicestershire.
Then when I replied he said he was U.S soldier in Afghanistan with U.s Army Special Forces Troop. He is a captain & radar specialist.
When Iasked why Leicestershire- he said he was born there when his parents where here on business.He sent me an email in which he said his name was Calvin Ben, born 21.1.1960.Attended Keller Elementary School in Colorado Springs & then to Everest College, then on to Colorado Technical University where he got a BSc Degree in Engineering.He worked for his fathers company but then was interested in the military, he loves his country wants to protect its integrity & security. His parents died when he was 24. He joined the military and is posted to Fort Lewis Barracks in Washington until deployed to the war zone.He then said he married his ex 20 yrs ago- no children- but then noticed a change in her behaviour.He later told me in on line chat that he caught her sleeping with a friend of his. Divorced 6 years ago & sold the house.He has inudated me with poems-from on line sites but also emails every day- even when i was away for a week- all waiting for my return.
He asked if I could get him a blackberry phone & i joked "what on my salary".Since my return from my holiday he has mentioned this a few times , i said it would cost £80 a month for me to get 2 contract blackberrys for minimum of 18 months.he needs 2 to use 1 connected to radar signal & act as ip provider & the other to phone/text me.If I send £1000 via the u.s agent in the u.k Elaine Bonner -pay to HSBC acct 61482688 sort code 400437, he can use the money to get the phones.When he comes to the uk on leave(no exact date yet)he will give me the money back.Also asked how much I had in bank etc- didnt give him exact amount & said it was all i had. He asked if i would move it all into my current account as well as the £1000 for the phones- i refused & he said it was for the stability of our relationship.He has 25 yrs service & intends to file his retirement papers in Kuwait when he comes on leave.He is planning on settling in the u.k- claims dual passport british/u.s (as born here),has a business advisor in the u.k looking at business premises in Kent,& wants to set up private security company & has £350,000 to invest.This money is currently inmilitary bank deposit in America.Claimed he doesnt have access to his salary whilst in Afghanistan & can claim it all when tour ends,on the whole his english & grammar are good- oddthings but i put it down to american expressions /spellings .I have not sent he £1000, checked and it comes up as a valid hsbc account at Muswell Hill branch in London.
I have all the eamils he has sent & poems too- he did say he liked to read poetry & romantic novels.Has said he cant wait to meet me & i am his soul mate,fate brought us together & he loves "talking" to me on line & reading my emails & cant wait for us to be together forever- he never thought he would feel this happy again
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by Dotti Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:03 pm
Yes, this is a scammer, absolutely no doubt about it. This is a textbook African romance scammer format. I am very glad that you have not lost money to him at this point!

Chances are the real man corresponding with you is a young black African, living in Africa or Malaysia. He is scamming multiple women at the same time, possibly under the same name, maybe under different names, but he is likely using some of the same scripts--so posting the emails he has sent you (remove your personal info) will help to prevent others being scammed.

The bank account he gave you might belong to his accomplice, but it is equally likely it belongs to someone else he is scamming--it is very common for these scammers to use victims' bank accounts in their scams.

Please drop all contact with this scammer. Do not point out any mistakes, as it will only help to educate him. We will be happy to help you to sort things out a bit further when you are able to post his scripts too.

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by denblue Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:38 pm
Thank you for your prompt reply to my request.
He has emailed twice yesterday & once today- i sent 1 email last night saying my computer was having problems & had used daughters to reply to him but coudnt stay online as she had work to do.
He had even sent messages to my hotmail account- saying how much he missed me.
please advise how i post his emails as i dont want others to fall prey to him- might have sent the phone money if he hadnt been so pushy about the other money. Do they normally bombard you with poems as well? Lucky escape I think.
by GomerPyle Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:03 pm
he needs 2 to use 1 connected to radar signal


Blackberries have nothing to do with radar. :lol:

Soldiers are not allowed their own personal devices to connect to the internet. They're already provided with free connection by the military and it would be recklessly insane for soldiers to have anything that interferes with or receives radars signals.

The minute anyone claiming to be a soldier asks for money or electronics you know that they're imposters. He needs one for himself to do more scamming, and an extra to sell.

I'm glad you didn't waste your money on him.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Dotti Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:10 pm
It is normal for these scammers to flood you with romantic poetry and constant declarations of their love. When they think (or know) that you suspect them, it is also normal for them to become even more romantic; (temporarily) withdraw their money requests; pretend to be terribly upset or offended that you don't trust them; and even to deny being a scammer in the face of overwhelming evidence. If you review your old messages/chats, you will most likely also find that he often uses terms of endearment such as honey, angel, babe, baby excessively--this is another extremely common romance scammer behavior.

When they realize they aren't going to convince you--some will continue to tell the same lie; others will "confess" to lying about who they are but claim some justification; still others will get mean and may even threaten you. Ignore it all, no matter what they say, and eventually they will go away.

To post the messages--the easiest thing to do is to simply copy and paste them into a reply here. If your name or personal info such as email address are in it, just replace it with x's. If you highlight all of the text of one email and then click "Quote" above, it will put it into one separate quote box for easier reading like this:

This is a quote.


You can put several emails in one post this way, but you can reply again if it gets too long.

To get the full headers from the emails he just sent to your hotmail account:

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by denblue Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:41 am
Hi- thanks again for your advice- i stopped replyingto his emails & so far havent heard anything in 3days.Going to try & post emails- wont bother with poems as i know where he got most of them from!!
My name is Calvin Ben,i am 50yrs old and a member of the u.s army special forces troop.i was born in u.k and grew up in u.s with my parents in u.s. I attended Keller Elementary School in Colorado spring from there i proceeded to Everest College. I was 24 when my parent died but before their death i went to the university, Colorado Technical University where i got BSc Degree in Engineering. Later I worked in my father's company but there was a compassion for military and went for military training, I love my country, its integrity and name must be protected this really led me to the military and was posted to fort Lewis barrack until i was deployed to the war zone. I married my Ex 20 years ago. At the start it was fun and full understanding until i started noticing some changes in her and her movements. I was busy then but a faithful and caring woman should understand when her husband is being engaged to his job. I love to be with her always but the tension on me from my job then was high so it really took my time. i got divorced 6yrs ago,i am loyal,honest,caring and loving and i am looking for a good earthed woman to spend the rest of my life with.i want to be loved and feel love again.


How are you doing and it is nice reading from you,i am happy chatting to you too and i believe we can make things work if we could get to know about each other and be commited,i want you to know relationship is not about the feelings u have in the begining or in the middle but how happy you are both are at the end..hope we chat soon..

Calvin

How are you doing and it is nice reading from you ,my name is Calvin Ben,i just came back from the patrol now and will be working until am through here with the radar,i work round the clock because,i will have to make sure the environment is peaceful and safe,and to see all the troops on the field are back to the base,i will like us to chat always and to get to know more and more about each other everyday,i am wishing you a lovely time shopping and get something for me lol...chat soon when you are back..

Good morning and hope you had a lovely night and sweet dreams,chat to you soon..


How are you doing and it is nice chatting to you in the morning,i have been out of the base since morning and just came back from the patrol now,i am wishing you a lovely night and best of luck in the week ahead..


How are you doing and i know by now you will be by having fun and so happy,i want you to know we might meet not long ago,but that does determine the relationship strengthen and stability,what that matters is what we have in common and the qualities we both have,i am wishing you a nice rest tomight and want you to know someone care about you here..



How are you doing and hope you had a lovely night and sweet dreams,i am wishing you a nice time as you spend your holiday take carexxxxxxx


Dear ,

What a wonderful beginning to a new relationship, it never happened to me yrs back, me finding you, chatting online, confessing my love, and then it happens all over again. The feelings that I’ve felt in me all along begin to resurface. Only this time, I am free to act on them without fear of upsetting anyone.

Thank you. What more can a man say to the woman who opened her heart to him, allowing him to feel the warmth of her love across the great distance that separates them? You truly have no idea what I feel for you.

I try to put this feeling into words, but fail miserably. this feeling of being both scared and at peace, of having both butterflies and a sense of calm, is a feeling that i have only dreamed about. as the days continue to pass, my love for you continues to grow. i never ought i had the capacity to love anybody as much as i love you right now. yet, my love for you continues to mature, growing beyond the realm of my heart. it seems that you have become the fiber of my soul, the very reason for my existence.

Calvin..

Good Evenning and hope you had a lovely day and hope you are back tommorow,missing your lovely words.


Good morning and it is nice talking to you you yesterday and see you back safely from the holiday,hope you had a lovely night and sweet dreams,hope we chat today..

Calvin..


Hey sweetie,

When i am with you, i feel alive. you bring to me a happiness that no one else ever could. You bring to me a love i have never known before. i could not imagine what my life would be like without you.you have touched my heart in ways no one could ever comprehend. I love being with you and I want to spend the rest of my life with you.

Every day i wake up thanking God for you. you have given me so much, and i don't know if i will be able to give back all that you have given me. You have been my guiding light when i was lost. you have been my comforter through all my trials and sorrow. you have been my rock.

Sometimes i feel lost and out of touch, but when you’re here online with me, i feel safe, i could sit here and try to tell you just how i feel, but i can't find the words other wanting to be in ur arms and be called your husband..

I want to tell you that the love i have for is undying. it is a love that is strong and enduring and will stand the test of time. i truly feel blessed that you have become a part of my life, and I cannot wait for the day that we can join our lives together. i want to lie next to you at night and fall asleep in your arms. I want to wake to your beautiful smile. i want to share in your joys and sorrows. i want to be your everything, because you are everything to me.

I promise to always love you and always hold you in my heart. i will always be here for you when you need me, and i will love you no matter what life brings us. You are my soul mate, and i vow to make you happy and never hurt you for a sec..

Yours,
Calvin..


It is nice talking to you earlier and understanding and knowing what we both feel for each other,i want you to know our meeting is divine and fate as also helped us,i feel a lot for you and i am happy it happens like that,i never felt i could be loved or cherished after a whole 6yrs of loneliness and pains,i dont want you to think about the distance or miles between us ,i believe good things comes to the people that deserves it,i lost the signal shortly and when i signed in u are gone,i am wishing you a lovely night and sweet dreams,i cant wait to read your text and get more close to you,hope we chat again tomorrow...i want you so loadsss and you are the best thing that as ever happened to me in a long time..

Calvin..

Dear sweetie,

I love you. I love every thing about you. I love your cute smile, your magical eyes, and the way you type to me. I love your gentle touch, and I love the warmth I feel when i am with you on here. i can't stop thinking about you when we are apart. i need you by my side. you complete me. you mean the world to me. you are the best thing that has ever happened to me. you are the one i have always wished for. i never thought that i would ever meet someone as special as you. i love each and every moment i share with you.and i promise never to let you down..

Calvin..

How are you doing?no mails and no chats from you,are you tired or angry with me.


How are you doing sweetie,i felt bad not been able to talk to you tonight,i am wishing you a lovely night and sweet dreams,missing you so loadssss..

by Dotti Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:23 am
Looking at these emails, I see atrocious English in some, and decent English mixed with poor English in a few. This is typical scammer, and I know that the terrible English is his own writing, and the mixed English is probably copied with some editing by the scammer to make it fit his scam. Some quick searches give me the following from lovingyou.com, which is a favorite site of scammers.

http://www.lovingyou.com/content/inspir ... php?ID=892
I love you. I love every little thing about you. I love your cute smile, your magical eyes, and the sound of your voice. I love your gentle touch, and I love the warmth I feel when I’m by your side. I can't stop thinking about you when we are apart. I need you by my side. You complete me. You mean the world to me. You are the best thing that has ever happened to me. You are the one I've always wished for. I never thought that I would ever meet someone as special as you. I love each and every moment I share with you.


http://www.lovingyou.com/content/inspir ... php?ID=889
When I am with you, I feel alive. You bring to me a happiness that no one else ever could. You bring to me a love I have never known before. I could not imagine what my life would be like without you. You have touched my heart in ways no one could ever comprehend. I love being with you and I want to spend the rest of my life with you...


http://www.lovingyou.com/content/inspir ... php?ID=888
What a wonderful beginning to a new year! It began late in the previous year -- me finding you, chatting online, confessing my love, and then it happens all over again. The feelings that I’ve felt for you all along begin to resurface. Only this time, I am free to act on them without fear of upsetting anyone.

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