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by ceceryder Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:15 am
I believe this is another scammer....probably from Nigeria. IMed me on Match.com and he wanted to go to Yahoo Messanger. Claims to be from Austin, Texas. A Widower with an adopted 32 year old daughter and two grandchildren.

Here's the first chat:
Removed (11:15 AM): As I said, I didn't get a chance to really read your profile...why don't you tell me something about yourself.
andy wilson (11:16 AM): what do you want to no
Removed(11:17 AM): What do you do for a job? Do you have any children? What you enjoy doing for fun...etc. Why did you decide to try Match?
andy wilson (11:18 AM): am commercial building contractor (on Match profile he said he was "I'm a Packaging Engineer handling Product Development for Sony Electronics and Black and Decker/ DeWalt. I travel to Mexico and the East Coast often. I also work short sales in the Corpus Christi Real Estate market."
andy wilson (11:18 AM): i have one adopted daughter she is 24 with two beautiful grand kidss lol am grand pa
andy wilson (11:18 AM): am widower
andy wilson (11:19 AM): and i ahve been living alone for 5yrs and my daughter husband ask me to try and i join last night
andy wilson (11:19 AM): and you
Removed (11:19 AM): Well funny thing - - I was adopted at 3 weeks old!
Removed (11:20 AM): I have a 36 year old son who I raised as a single Mom since he was 14 months old. He has a beautiful daughter so I am a Grand Mom! I have been divorced for almost 35 years...
andy wilson (11:21 AM): wow and is this ur first time joining online dating
Removed(11:21 AM): Yes
andy wilson (11:22 AM): and did you find anyone and why didnt you fins anyone there
Removed(11:22 AM): I've been very career driven for the last ten years or so. I had several serious relationships as my son was growing up, and they asked me to marry them, but I didn't think they would make a great Step Dad for my son, so we went our separate ways.
andy wilson (11:23 AM): awwwok
Removed (11:24 AM): I've been in broadcasting my whole career and to be honest, I think since I've been on TV and I'm on radio now, as well as being an intelligent and independent woman, I may intimidate most men around here, so I don't get asked out anymore.
andy wilson (11:24 AM): wow ok
andy wilson (11:24 AM): so have u got to meet any man from match
Removed (11:25 AM): I've met several but have been terribly disappointed because they turned out to be romance scammers.
andy wilson (11:25 AM): wowok
Removed (11:25 AM): I'm just trying it through my 3 month membership since it's already paid for and then I'll probably drop it.
andy wilson (11:25 AM): how do i no if you are one of them
Removed(11:26 AM): Well, how do I know if you are one of them?
andy wilson (11:26 AM): when will it going to end
andy wilson (11:26 AM): ok am one of them and willyou like me ifam one othem and i didnt want to scam and love you
Removed(11:27 AM): I'm an optimist, so there's always the chance I might a REAL person on here. I always have hope anytime someone winks at me.
andy wilson (11:28 AM): that good i ahve realise of scam and have scam once but with my work i travel alot and do you care meeting man who like travelling
Removed (11:29 AM): So where are you working now?
andy wilson (11:29 AM): am not working now
Removed (11:29 AM): So you're in Austin?
andy wilson (11:29 AM): i just came back from carlsbad and now waiting for my next contract
Removed (11:30 AM): Very interesting. I love Austin. I went there once for a conference and it seems to be such a great city to live in....the live music scene is go great!
andy wilson (11:31 AM): thank you beauty
andy wilson (11:31 AM): am been careful with any woman i talk to be of the scam and i have scam but have you been scam before
andy wilson (11:32 AM): a woman from london scam me and am not happy with dating site and if i found them here i will drop my account
Removed(11:32 AM): Nope I'm not a scammer! I'm a real American citizen!
andy wilson (11:33 AM): i no you are
Removed (11:33 AM): What dating site was that on?
andy wilson (11:33 AM): eharmony
andy wilson (11:33 AM): and now match but u are the first woman am talking to also
Removed(11:34 AM): For one thing, I use proper English since I got a minor in English in college. For another thing, I've actually been to Austin.
Removed (11:35 AM): You just have to be careful. There are definite signs you can pick up on.
andy wilson (11:35 AM): can you tell me kind of man ur looking for .. if you not mind
andy wilson (11:36 AM): wow that good (mind you this man is supposed to have a college degree)
Removed (11:36 AM): Well, I'm looking for someone who can be honest and kind. A caring individual who enjoys having intelligent conversation. One who can agree to disagree and can accept my family as his own.
Removed (11:37 AM): Someone who can make me laugh...and will be there through the good times and the bad times. Someone who can lift me up to become a better person
andy wilson (11:38 AM): i dont have big family am the only son to my mom and my mom is 85now born and raise in mexico and i have accents and maybe u wont like it becos many people talk of my accentsalso
Removed (11:38 AM): You have a spanish accent?
andy wilson (11:39 AM): black mexican but it spanish accents
andy wilson (11:39 AM): but littledeep black
andy wilson (11:39 AM): asu no of mexican accent
Removed(11:40 AM): I don't know what you mean when you say black mexican
andy wilson (11:40 AM): becos of the area i raise of
Removed (11:41 AM): Accents usually don't bother me. After all I have one to - - a southern accent!
andy wilson (11:41 AM): wow thank you
andy wilson (11:42 AM): so what do you want to no about me and can you tellme ur experience on the online dating site
Removed (11:43 AM): Well what are you looking for in a woman? As I said my experience on Match hasn't really been good since everyone has always been a slime ball romance scammer.
andy wilson (11:43 AM): and what do they want from you did any one scam you
Removed(11:44 AM): They fell "in love" with me much to quickly and then after a short while needed money. So I guess they attempted to scam me but I never sent any money to them
andy wilson (11:46 AM): am looking for right woman,. god fearing woman honest understand and woman who can help me support me in financially even though am not poor and nor rich ... i want woman who will love me as whom am i and love my daughter and fill my house for me becos my house is very big and i want good woman with good family to make me happy in my house
Removed(11:47 AM): So you need financial help, or are you saying the woman should help contribute to the household expenses?
andy wilson (11:47 AM): hon i dont need woman help i have my money but incase house contribute i mean
Removed (11:48 AM): Does your daughter and grandbaby live with you? Or does she live near you in Austin?
andy wilson (11:49 AM): they live in one of my house in denver
Removed (11:49 AM): So you don't get to see her a lot then?
Removed (11:50 AM): I'm lucky because my son and his family live only a couple of blocks from me
andy wilson (11:50 AM): and i live alone in my 3000sq ft house with my two dogs and my housein denver is 5000sq ft house and when i marry i want to move there and sell tx house
Removed (11:50 AM): I see...so you can be closer to your daughter
Removed (11:50 AM): I have two dogs as well
andy wilson (11:51 AM): yes
andy wilson (11:51 AM): aww ok
andy wilson (11:51 AM): incase i travel for bussiness in two three yrs willyou be still waiting for me
Removed(11:52 AM): I guess it would depend on how we could develop some kind of long distance relationship
andy wilson (11:52 AM): good
andy wilson (11:52 AM): will you support me in my bussiness when we are together
Removed (11:53 AM): Do you mean work with you?
andy wilson (11:53 AM): yes
andy wilson (11:53 AM): and help me in my work when am going down on financially also
Removed (11:53 AM): I guess, but I know nothing about how to be a building contractor!
andy wilson (11:54 AM): i will show you and beside u will work in my office and accounting can u do that
Removed(11:55 AM): I've never been an accountant but I do know how to do other office work. I just know enough accounting to try to balance my checkbook monthly which is a struggle since I consider myself to be "mathematically challenged." LOL!
andy wilson (11:56 AM): aww ok
Removed (11:57 AM): It's always a struggle when you live paycheck to paycheck though! I really chose the wrong profession to be in if I wanted to make a lot of money. But being a single Mom all those years has helped me learn to pinch a penny!
andy wilson (11:57 AM): ok
andy wilson (11:58 AM): do you like to talk tome
andy wilson (11:58 AM): are u interested in talking to me
Removed (11:58 AM): Sure
andy wilson (11:59 AM): can u cancelur account and let continue here
Removed(12:00 PM): I think you are a really nice man and I would like to get to know you better, but I'm not sure I'm ready to cancel my account yet until I get to know you better. I will tell you though, if someone winks at me, I won't respond.
andy wilson (12:00 PM): am sometimes busy also when am not online i will make sure i sent you mail.
andy wilson (12:00 PM): ok
andy wilson (12:00 PM): are you talking to any oen now on match apart from me
Removed (12:01 PM): Not right now.
andy wilson (12:01 PM): what willu do today
andy wilson (12:01 PM): can we chat chat later tonight
Removed (12:02 PM): I need to straighten and clean my house. I will be home later - - I do have to run some errands at some point and I'm supposed to have dinner with a friend of mine
Removed (12:02 PM): What time are you talking about?
andy wilson (12:03 PM): can w chat 7.30pm
andy wilson (12:03 PM): or 8pm
andy wilson (12:03 PM): is that going to be good time for you.. then
Removed (12:03 PM): Is that Central Daylight Time?
Removed (12:03 PM): It's 12:03 p.m. here now.
andy wilson (12:04 PM): we have the same time
andy wilson (12:04 PM): it 12,04 now
andy wilson (12:05 PM): take care and i will think of you ,,
Removed(12:05 PM): O K I probably won't be home from dinner until at least 8:45 pm. Would that be okay with you?
andy wilson (12:05 PM): becos of you i will thank
andy wilson (12:05 PM): take care
andy wilson (12:05 PM): talk to you then
Removed (12:06 PM): OK talk to you again then

He hasn't send an email so I could get an IP address unless you know how to get one from his chat. I'm going to try to post his picture Image

So scammer or not? I believe he is. Can someone verify this?
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by Eve Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:45 am
will you support me in my bussiness when we are together
Removed (11:53 AM): Do you mean work with you?
andy wilson (11:53 AM): yes
andy wilson (11:53 AM): and help me in my work when am going down on financially also


This simply gives him away. Scamer preparing you for future quests for money.
Be careful. No normal men ask women such a questions, just scamers.
by Dotti Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:02 am
Again, yes--it's a definite scammer. I can show you offline some of the specific English mistakes to look for, as long as you promise not to share it with scammers--just pm me if you would like.

As Eve said, this one is setting up for money requests from the very beginning, and as you noticed, he forgot what he said about himself on his profile, probably because he has several profiles under different names/careers and lost track of who he is playing!

Note also how he talks about his accent. It has nothing to do with women not liking it--it is because he is African, with a very strong African accent (not "black Mexican") --and when he has moved to phone contact, one or more previous victims has become suspicious because his accent didn't match his claims--so he is trying to explain away his accent from the beginning.

Please keep posting these as you encounter them, as every scammer you post is also targeting other women, and your posts may ultimately save those women from being scammed.

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