Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Carol7 Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:37 pm
Hi,
I get to know Andy via Facebook but he has limited pictures and postings in it. He has now staying in US and into business partnership with his friend. He gained my trust as he sounded knowledgeable, has good business sense and have good people management skills as a employer. He told me he is coming back to his hometown and has plan to invest in property here. He shown me his company website but recently I can't find it anymore. He told me he is aware but can only "reactivate" it when he is back to his US office.
We were happy talking for more than a month, till he seek my help to help him get in contact with a finance company where he has deposited his sale transaction in. The company is known as Monetary Security Company, http://www.monetarysecuritycompany.com and contact number in email is +44 701-0043-141 and +44 701-0043-144. The finance company deemed to perform their due diligence to verify my particulars as a beneficiary / receipent of cheque on behalf of him. I have forwarded them some basic personal information and copy of my identity card, except account number. In order for the full amount to be withdrawn, the company emailed me stating us to pay for the charges of depositing service and admin fee which was pretty high plus the Government tax. I couldn't understand why he is not allowed to less off these amount from the sum of money deposited in the finance company. As he required the cheque to be received over at my side so he can proceed to invest upon arrival, the finance company given us a Singapore bank account to deposit the charges. I have assisted Andy to email over some payment slips which he has made. I started to get worried when he seek my help to loan some money if I can but told me will pay me back once he cleared his cheque. I tried calling the finance company but I can't. It seems to be disconnected or not in use after some tries. He is really nice and as much as I wanted to help but I'm worried getting hurt and implicated if it is not real. Can you kindly advise me on this if the company is real and legitimate? If not given so many scammers around, I wouldn't be doing this. However if it is not a scam, can you kindly let me know and remove this post so to be fair to them? Thank you for your help on this.
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by AlanJones Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:53 pm
The website monetarysecuritycompany.com is fake

UNITED KINGDOM BRANCH
National Support Center | UK Wide Supplier:
Monetary Security Company Ltd
Mill Brow
Eccleston
St Helens
WA10 4QG
Office Consultancy Services
Email: [email protected]
Diplomat Consultancy services
Email: [email protected]
Contact Customer Care
Tel: (+44) 701-0043-141, (+44) 701-0043-144
Fax: (+44) 844-7740-718

UNITED STATE OF AMERICA BRANCH
OFFICE ADDRESS:12777 Jones Road, Suite
480 Houston, TX 77070.


the telephone numbers give it away. UK numbers starting +4470 are personal redirect numbers that can be forwarded anywhere in the world. A legitimate company in the UK would have no need for such numbers.

Can you post "Andy's" email address and link to his Facebook profile. His company website will have been shut down by the hosts for fraud.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by Carol7 Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:28 pm
Hi Alan,
Thanks for the swift reply. May I know what should I do since they gotten copy of identity and some info including reaidential address in the form?

Just to counterchrck, is it unusual for the financial conpany to have accounts overseas for us to deposit claims and yet it is to an individual name?

With the website and above account given, is it definitely a fraud?

As for Andy, may i know how should i confiirm if he is the one I have spoken to? Is there any possibilities of protecting his idenity while verifying? Reason being, he sound too nice and patience as we were on average of an hr to 2 almost daily. Im still bearing hope that he is real because of the usual tipics we converse abou. Its just my gut feel.

Thank you so much for your help.
by Bryon Williams Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:46 pm
It is 100% a scam.

As for Andy, may i know how should i confiirm if he is the one I have spoken to? Is there any possibilities of protecting his idenity while verifying?

You already asked and were told you are involved with a scammer.

Now you should stop all contact with him. He is playing all roles in this scam.

Please do as Alan Jones said and post his email address, fb profile link and emails to you. This will help the other women he is also scamming.



He shown me his company website but recently I can't find it anymore.


contact number in email is +44 701-0043-141 and +44 701-0043-144


the company emailed me stating us to pay for the charges of depositing service and admin fee which was pretty high plus the Government tax. I couldn't understand why he is not allowed to less off these amount from the sum of money deposited in the finance company


I tried calling the finance company but I can't. It seems to be disconnected or not in use after some tries.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by Carol7 Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:45 pm
Hi Alan & Bryon, thank you for your help in confirming the legitimacy of company when even local embassy is unable to help. Sad to face the truth but don't understand why are there so many of it and I have not accept any online friends thereafter. Really appreciate your help before I lose money and more. May I know what can I do to self-protect as a copy of my identity card is with them?

As we are mostly in facebook massenger and whatsapps, here is an email:
[email protected]

"I LOVE YOU SO DEEP MORE THAN YOU CAN TELL
I'm very happy having you in my life, What more can a man say to the woman who opened her heart to him, allowing him to feel the warmth of her love across the great distance that separates them? You truly have no idea what I feel for you, but really deep here in my heart you mean everything to me..
I want to let you know that as the days continue to pass, my love for you will continues to grow. I never thought I had the capacity to love anybody as much as I love you right now. Yet, my love for you continues to mature, growing beyond the realm of my heart. It seems that you have become the fiber of my soul, the very reason for my existence.
I have no other words to describe the way you make me feel. No words, no actions could even come close. I believe that Ronald Reagan said it best to Nancy in a letter, telling her only that, "I more than love you". Their love was a strong love, surviving everything, even death. I believe that even after his passing, Nancy felt Ronald's love for her raining down upon her. That is why she has always seemed at peace after the death of such a truly loving husband. That is the love that I feel for you.
there's this special love that I have deep within my heart. That love is only just for you. It is far greater than this planet, galaxy or universe. I wish I could show you how much you really mean to me. If I could let you feel how much I do really love you in a kiss or hug, you would only feel the surface of the love that I have for you. The only time when I can show you how much I do really love you is when we will be together. From then you will see and taste how much I love you. You can hear the language of my love for you just by listening to my heart Lola, sure it will speak to you. You can taste the sweetest of it in a kiss and you can feel it in a hug. When you look deep into my eyes, you will see how great my love for you is. You will also know and see that it will make you understand how much you mean to me!
If I could describe the love that I have for you, I would describe it as an unconditional, everlasting, UN-measurably, UN-comparably, uncountable and more.... You've my heart and love, & As time goes by, my heart and love for you will keep on growing stronger, brighter and bigger. You are all mine, as I am all yours. Although we have two different bodies, minds and souls, but we have one and the same beautiful heart.
i have been busy that is why i have to write to you my love always take care of yourself, my working boys are back to work remember i told you my boys are traveling that is why am busy my love.
This is my unconditional love for you, from me to you.
I love you, my dear, with all my heart, body, mind and soul. I will never stop loving you. You are my life, my world and my everything. Distance may keep us apart, but you will always and forever be embedded deep within my heart, i will run of to bed now come in my dream tonight love... i love you."

I have deleted his facebook from mine just before I wrote to you as I have some doubts on it. However, I have found another account in google of him with same details: https://www.facebook.com/Andy.lee3000
by Terminator5 Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:00 am
The wording on that website was written by an illiterate moron from Eastern Europe . Not by any businessman from the USA .

Daniel 8 :25
by Bryon Williams Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:12 am
Love letter are put together with man poems.

If you search parts of the poems you will see the same sentences were you by other scammers.

Listed on many anti scam sites.

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Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by Carol7 Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:27 am
Thanks.. i did suspect as his sentences and grammar from beginning were different from emails. It gives me red signal when one of those states what i never talked about.

One of the whatsapps is here :(
YOU ARE MY DREAM COME TRUE
Hello sweetie,
Thanks for the songs you dedicated to me on whatsup They are awesome great! I love the lyrics , Do you know when i was sleeping those song put me smoothly to sleep Hehe, The songs keep playing even when am sleeping do you know the amazing part of it all, We are dressed on our wedding gown, I carried you in my arms and then you are holding a flower and our rings while i take you to the alter, We sworn in the alter to Love, Cherish, Respect, Understand, Protect, Care, Stand for each other, And then after that the Rev, Fr asked you openly in the presence of all the crowds that attended our wedding, do you accept to take me as your husband until death do us part, and you look to me and said, "Yes i do" Same way it goes to me, i look deep into your eyes, Holding your hands and then replied and say "Yes i do", We hugged each other and kissed passionately, I feel like i'm in heaven when we kissed Hehe,,,,,Your lips so sweet and very lovely, It does not end here sweetie, after that we had our honeymoon in Paris....Have you ever been to Paris sweetie? Or tell me where would you like us to hold our honeymoon after our wedding? We had a very lovely honeymoon, We visited the beach, We played in the beach with the soils and then we had candle light dinner in the beach also.....
I'm really missing you very much and alot, I'm counting the days to be with you in soon sweetie, The distance that keeps me away from you now is my enemy sweetie, You know when we talk on the phone i enjoy our conversation, I can feel how envy the network is toward our communication each time we talk there is always a buzzing sound causing the network fluctuating......
I want you to always take good care of your self for me, You mean alot to me and you are very important to me sweetie, You make my cold heart so warm, Your love melts the ice in my heart and then made out in it a new home where our love will be happy forever...
I promise to love you all the rest of my life sweetie, I will hold you so strong, The glue that hold our love together will never fade, So we will be glued forever my wife, Kiss and hug to you, I love you very much and alot, Muahhhh
I will stop here sweetie, As i need to start preparing for sleep , will talk to you soon, My warm kiss and hug to keep your morning warm.
by Terminator5 Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:32 am
I'm going to seriously scrutinize and subsequently rip apart that fake company / fake site when I get back to my PC and do some research . Its 100% scam .

Daniel 8 :25
by Bryon Williams Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:32 am
His poems are stolen.

When he attempts to to write like someone educated in the Western World he will have grammar and sentence structure problems.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by Carol7 Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:03 am
Wonder if they are really inhumane to cheat people emotionally. I have asked him for a videocall since more than a month back but there are always reasons and excuses but told me he will try one of these days. He kept assuring he will not hurt me.. all fake.

Can i ask, though we do not alert the scammers, but how do we know if they are members of this site or they will not be informed with their details and emails posted here? Thanks once again.
by Terminator5 Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:28 am
They have no morals . Its a scam . The only thing they care about is the money . We've seen it played out over and over again on the pages of this blog .

Daniel 8 :25
by Carol7 Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:30 am
That's sad... not only us but to them as well. Thanks for your advice.

Can someone help shed some lights on last part of my previous reply? Thank you.
by AlanJones Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:04 pm
Scammers do occasionally find themselves posted here, either because the Google their details and find them listed, or because a victim ignores the advice and questions them on it.

The bright scammers will change their fake details (either just the email address or invent a whole new fake persona), the really stupid ones will sign up and post trying to claim their innocence. The latter are quickly dealt with by being banned and tagged as scammers so that their victims can be in no doubt of what they are.

But it is best to leave them in the dark, so that they carry on using the same names, emails, phone numbers and photos. That way future victims have a chance of finding their details posted.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by Terminator5 Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:09 pm
Don't tell him he is posted here . If he finds out he is posted , it will take him just a few minutes to assemble a new false indentity . Post whatever details on him you can . Also post the facebook page he contacted you from .

Thanks for posting to Scamwarners . Your post will help warn other potential victims of this Romance / Employment / Phishing Scam .


See also post here , 2 fake sites :

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Daniel 8 :25

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