Information on romance scams and scammers.
by doody2011 Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:14 am
Beware ladies.
Someone profiling themselves as: Steve Jordan, or by rank as MSgt Steve Jordan, and a couple other variations of the same name, is still out there, so take care not to be lured into the web.
Its definitely too good to be true ... Shame !
2 email addresses I was communicated through were:
via yahoo messenger: [email protected]
via regular email: [email protected]

It’s a true shame the lovely person in these photos has had their identity stolen at the hands of an extortionist.

If it all sounds too good to be true, then go with your gut feeling, because it is just that !

An unfolding experience unfamiliar to me, hard lesson to learn, but glad I did not lose any money.
Feel a bit deflated but certainly not beaten !

I was initially contacted through a dating site early January 2011 and communication ceased mid Feb.

Nothing seemed too weird to investigate except I did feel the intense devotion, undying passion and love odd so early, especially for someone he had not met. He knew I would not reciprocate such feelings till we had a chance to meet.

I started questioning things upon receipt of forms for leave. – glad it happened quickly so more of my time not wasted !

Photos received were of a Gorgeous US Air Force military man.
Photos either in uniform (showing name either on uniform shirt or head gear), or with 2 children, or in civilian clothing.
Glad now that I never sent any of myself.

BACKGROUND INFO GIVEN WAS:
6’2” Italian/American, 46yo Widow, Father of 2 (Boy 5 and Girl 7), wife died of terminal cancer 3 years go (died 11 months after diagnosis), he’s currently serving in Afghanistan – has been there for 8 months and is a Special Duties Officer (Bomb Specialist – apparently one of the best in what he does), moved to Australia 12 months ago so (same city as myself) Mother-In-Law can care for kids while he is deployed, and can be with them when not on deployment. His own family (parents + 3 siblings) all killed when he was 7 in motor accident, and he was raised by his grandparents on his mothers side.

He offered in early correspondence – as he is a Special Duties Officer, this gives him the flexibility to be able to serve under the US Defence Forces, and reside in another country.
He also advised he did not know how long his current deployment would be, that Special Duty Officers don’t get leave like other personnel, they are bought in on specific classified missions and once that is complete are able to leave.
Not being fully aware how the Defence Forces work, I had nothing to go by to question this.

His profile on the dating site was well written so was the contact email received. I had no reason to question anything at this time.

There is a posting on this scamwarners site by Lozza on 17th Jan 2011, containing a Great Love Letter … thank you Lozza for taking the time to post this so others can identify.
I also received this same letter, 99% word for word.

A true romantic, extremely full on from early contact.
Too good to be true – complete whirlwind fantasy.

During communication, grammar for someone with English as first language – at stages questionable here and there which I put down to a couple of things, plus we aren’t all perfect so who was I to judge, and because at other times the grammar was fine. Definitely when proclaiming undying passion and love, grammar was perfect – so perfect it appeared as though copied from other sources.

His undying passion and love always surrounded how he’d been so lonely since loss of wife, did not know if he would feel such a strong connection to anyone again, could not explain why he felt the way he did for me, could not wait to meet me and that it will happen soon, etc.


After about 3 weeks - Discussion was raised re phone connection set up via Secure Military Satellite and I received some communication via his so called Commandant going by name of Commandant Mabel Eyerman – under a hotmail account.
Email being: [email protected]
I was asked for phone #, service provider, Country, State & City details which I provided as felt none of this was highly sensitive information – not knowing at this stage there would be more communication relating to cost.
The next communication received was to advise there was no free space on the line, that if we wanted to talk there would be a fee to set it up and what those fees were, I advised my online romancer the fees were ridiculous and I was not going to pay. He was fine with that and even offered to pay half but before going ahead advised he may have some good news soon.

It was at this same time, through our discussions, he advised he was wanting to retire, that he’d served for 18 years and needed a settled life, and needed to be home with his kids.

The following week he told me he’d spoken with his Commandant and was granted leave for 2 months – and during this time he would retire as he can only do that when not on duty.
However, I would have to complete some forms for this leave to take place, and he pre warned me that the Commandant will advise they will deposit his Leave Benefits into my account.
I received 2 forms – Leave form and Policy Instruction Form.
Noticing a lot of flaws in the general content, unofficial layout and grammar of these, I raised questions.
My romancer advised he would cover any fees relating to the processing of leave and not to be concerned eventhough its listed on the form to be covered by myself he will advise the Commandant.
The only money he said that would come to me were his Leave Benefits, which I queried as it didn’t make sense why these aren't paid into his own account where his salary is paid.
When I received notice from the Commandant with a further 2 forms regarding payment of $2,500 USD for leave processing, I had already done some research to discover this was a con and notified both parties the game was up.

Thanks SCAMWARNERS – now I have the tools to check IP details etc, in the future - sad we have to take these measures, but better to be safe than sorry !

BELOW I’VE POSTED ANOTHER ‘LOVE’ EMAIL (one of several received) in case others see similarities in what they’ve been sent while in communication with their online romancer.

Baby, you have changed my life completely. You're the one who makes me beautiful. You're the one who makes me strong. You're the one who makes me feel so important; you're everything to me now, You make me fall in love with you every day and i cant just explain how you do that to me. I thank God that I have found a woman like you. Its so difficult that we are so far away and we can only be together through the email, chatting on online. All i am doing right now is to get this mission completed and i can be with you. Thank you baby. What more can a man say. You truly have no idea what I feel for you. I try to put this feeling into words, but fail miserably. This feeling of being at peace, of having both butterflies and a sense of calm, is a feeling that I have only dreamed about in the past years. As the days continue to pass, my love for you continues to grow. I never thought I will have the capacity to love anybody as much as I love you right now. Yet, my feelings for you continues to mature, growing beyond the realm of my heart. It seems that you have become the fiber of my soul, the very reason for my existence.

I have no other words to describe the way you make me feel. No words, no actions could even come close. I believe that Ronald Regan said it best to Nancy in a letter, telling her only that, "I more than love you". Their love was a strong love, surviving everything, even death. I believe that even after his passing, Nancy felt Ronald's love for her raining down upon her. That is why she has always seemed at peace after the death of such a truly loving husband. That is the love that I feel for you Honey.
You have knocked me off my feet and you are all i think of and want so much and i miss you with every breath i take ...I think of you always and i wish I didn't have to miss you. But then again, I know that the day will come when I will be able to spend my every waking moment with you. You are the only one that I want. I know everything will be alright and i will get home safely and we will be together and then you will know that this is meant to be. Have a good day baby

Love Always,

Steve
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by Bubbles Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:30 am
Welcome to ScamWarners doody2011 and thank you for posting this additional information up for others to find. We are pleased that we have been able to help you in dealing some of the characters on the internet. We appreciate you sharing your experience. :D We are glad you didn't get pulled completely in to the scam. I trust that you have stopped communicating with this scammer.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by doody2011 Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:42 am
Bubbles wrote:Welcome to ScamWarners doody2011 and thank you for posting this additional information up for others to find. We are pleased that we have been able to help you in dealing some of the characters on the internet. We appreciate you sharing your experience. :D We are glad you didn't get pulled completely in to the scam. I trust that you have stopped communicating with this scammer.



Thanks Bubbles ..
Yes - definitely have ceased communication, deleted them from contacts etc so that they cant access me onscreen and place further security blocks on my system.
I've even gone to the point that now I will regularly manually change my IP as my service provide advised how to do this, I've also have changed passwords and eventhough no financial details were provided to the person on the other side of the screen, have taken measures to have all my accounts changed. Time consuming and probably over thinking it all, but at least I feel more at ease having done it.
I did however stupidly sign one form and they have my signature. Can you tell me if I should be concerned re that ?
My gut feeling now that they know its over from me, they will just move on to their next waiting (hopefully not naive as I was) target and have no further concern of me or the form that I completed and sent to them.
If you can come back to me on this would be most appreciated. :)
by Michael Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:52 am
You're right that it probably isn't necessary to change these details, but if it puts your mind more at ease then just go for it :) Your gut feeling is correct, once he notices you won't pay he'll quickly move on to other victims. You don't have to worry about the signature, I still have to see the first case of such scammers using someone else's signature for mischief. It is possible you'll receive a bit more scam mails in your inbox than you used to, it's never bad to remain vigilant when receiving mails from people you don't know :)

Account inactive - messages are not being monitored
by nannygirl11 Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:13 pm
It's amazing how they all operate alike...the same lines:
I fail miserably to tell you how I feel
I love you so much I can't wait to be with you
I prayed so much to the Universe to bring me a woman like you
You mean everything and the world to me
I can't wait to read from you again, you make my day and my night
I love your emails

How can you love my emails when all I have done was ask question upon question with minimal answers...LOL
They are good though I must say. A high school girl's dream that's for sure...These guys are the kind to con the panties off a nun....or so some of them may think!
Ever notice how you don't hear from "your love interest" on Sundays? That's because most often those internet cafe's are not open so there is no access for them until the week day. Any time you ask them for an address to send them something to, they insist they will email it to you later? I've received so many love letters from one person that I truly want to gag!! Glad you cut off all communication with this person...I will be calling my "lover's" bluff here today and can't wait!! It's going to be priceless...Just glad I did not give any information away or any money for that matter, although he tried!! It's just too bad he will be out there moving on to the next victim but at least I will get my nasty point across. He will not appreciate all that I have to say that's for sure.
by dizzymisslizzzy Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:25 am
UGH....YOU TOO???? MY MAN OF MY DREAMS "BABY" HUNNY BUNNY.....SWEETHEART, LOVER, QUEEN.....IS NAMED "BRYAN" .......THIS IS MARCH 24TH...HE FELL IN TOTAL LOVE WITH ME 3 DAYS AFTER HE CONTACTED ME ON A DATING/SINGLES LINE...I AM SO IMBARASSED, BUT NOT NEARLY AS I AM PISSED, THAT HE STOLE THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF THIS MAN AND HIS ADORABLE KIDS...MAKES ME SICK THAT FOR THE FIRST WEEK OR SO, I STARRED AT THESE PICTURES, THINKING THIS BEAUTIFUL FAMILY NEEDED ME IN IT.....BUT!!!!! I AM NOT A SUCKER....I STILL HAVE THIS GUY ON THE "HOOK" AND WANT TO GET ADVISE AS TO WHERE I CAN MAKE THE SCAMMER INTO THE SCAMMED!!!!!!!!! ANY HELP FROM ANY OF YOU LADIES OUT THERE...PLEASE COULD WE AT LEAST COMPARE STORIES...I NEED SOME EMOTIONAL HELP TOO......THANKS

DIZZY........( NOT AS DIZZY AS ONE MAY THINK!!!)
by nannygirl11 Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:21 am
Lizzy
I sent you a private email. It is emotionally devastating when you come to find out that someone has pried their way into your private life by way of your trust and well, through their lies. Get back to me when you can and we will talk. I have met a few great people on here all through this site, sad that we all had to meet this way, but thankful that we did because we have made friends and the support we all have for one another is wonderful. Hang in there and don't give up.
by Dotti Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:23 am
Welcome dizzymisslizzy,

First, I'm glad you learned the truth before things went further. I know it's still hard when you learn that someone who seemed like a good guy with real potential is really a lying thief, but at least you have avoided the additional financial difficulties.

What you are talking about (leading the scammer on) is called scambaiting, and with the right tools, scambaiters can really make a scammer's life extremely difficult. But, the first rule of scambaiting is to "bait safely." That means never baiting a scammer who has your real information (meaning he contacted you on your real profile, so he knows some info about you). For more information about baiting safely, you can go to our sister site, http://www.419eater.com .

Since he has real information about you, the best thing you can do is drop him. Cut off all contact with him. Block him from your messenger applications, set up a filter to trash his emails automatically, and if he has your phone number and he calls, hang up on him. He will likely continue to proclaim his innocence, but will go away when he believes he has no chance of winning you over again since that means no money for him.

What you can do is post his emails to you (remove your name/personal info first). Scammers are lazy, and they often use the same scripted emails again and again, even after they change names. Posting those scripts can help a future victim to realize she is being scammed. Post the photos he is using, suitably marked first.

Unfortunately, the real person (who is very likely married and may never have been on a dating site) in the photos can't do anything. Scammers often take these photos from social networking sites like facebook--many users leave all of their information open to the public to see, and a viewable photo can easily be stolen. The scammer has already saved the photos to be reused, so the real person can remove their posted photos and the scammer will still have them.

The scammer himself is most likely in Africa in Malaysia. He is hiding behind fake names and completely made-up information. He will be operating from an IP address that won't trace directly back to him, but the truth is, even if it did, it won't do you any good, because law enforcement in the country he is operating in would have to act. In fact, in many of the scammer-infested areas, law enforcement is extremely corrupt, and will ignore anything for a bribe. If you are in the US, you can report the attempted scam to IC3, the task force for internet crimes. They have successfully worked with foreign governments to get a few scammers prosecuted, but because of the time, money, and resources required to pursue these individual crimes, the truth is an investigation will not even be launched unless the loss is in the 6 figure range. However, reporting these crimes still helps, as governments in our countries need to be aware of the magnitude of the problem, so that they understand that more resources are needed to address it.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Katharina Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:46 am
Welcome kerri,

sadly, the soldier whose pictures have been stolen can't do anything to stop the scammer from using them. I'd like to take this opportunity to advise readers who put their photos on social networking sites to keep their accounts accessible for approved friends only to minimise theft of their pictures.
by lotsofluv1507 Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:31 am
Unfortunately yes the guy is still out there.....

Emails recently on Zoosk (dating site) now of course deleted are as follows: -

[email protected]
and
[email protected]

also when you see him as a friend the pic is there the same as the link below.

555FAA71-9003-E525-37025352646A88C98 posted on 2 July 2010.

He is also found on facebook with no details under the name of steve jordan searched under the hotmail id

Who knows who this person is but do not open any zipped files and also found a video on the internet regarding a xmas message to his kids

i really feel sorry for the original guy as his profile is so corrupt and stolen
by Bubbles Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:26 pm
Welcome to ScamWarners lotsofluv1507 and thank you for posting this new information.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by doody2011 Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:16 am
The photos the scammer sent me is not the Steve Jordan of your link.
The one who was impersonated to me is this person - who I found on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001846235901

The photo matched the one on the dating site where the contact was initiated.

The one matching the photos emailed to me is Alexander Jordan.

On the paperwork the scammer wanted me to endorse, he placed the name as Alexander Steve Jordan.
Once I discovered the whole thing being a hoax - did the quick search and found the guy.

At the time of finding him, I wrote to him via Facebook to alert him his identity had been stolen, however I never heard back. Understandably - an odd email to receive from someone you don't know - if the circumstance was reverse, I too would not respond.

ciao



by Bubbles Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:10 am
There is really nothing a person can do once their photos have been taken and used by a scammer. Ce strongly caution everyone about the kind of information they leave out for others to find about them. Stars often find this out the hard way.

Once you put something in the internet, it is there forever. On servers and back up servers and on individual computers. There is no way to retrieve those items. Do be careful.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.

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