Match.com Scammers

This guy is on Match.....Truthfulgoodlife..Profile name. dseek_2 email. Will post latest chat with him on the forum. Unbelievable!!

There are many on this site. I would think..and have told them so. That with all the money they recieve for subscriptions. You would think that the profiles would be read more carefully. Instead of just taking their money or giving them "free time". I have encountered many since joining again.. Met a "real man" on the site. I stay on anyway...just to ( and i am careful) to spot scammers and report them. When you learn and educate yourself about Romance Scams. It is not hard to spot the profiles and "red flags" , that are now so obvious

Read and KEEP reading on the forums. They change so often and have become very good at what they do. BUT it always comes up in a new post, or reply on here. If they were so smart....this site would not exist. So think with your brain and not your heart. And if you have been scammed....as i was. You will recover and be able to help others

Great advice and encouragement pootas45. Healing does come with time as does knowledge. We try to speed that up here. Thank you for your participation!

I am posting the chat for Pootas45 with her permission. I have also made some notes/comments in blue.

Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:21:24 PM) : <ding> [typical scammer tactic, overuse of the buzz function, as well as typical name of an African scammer who doesn't recognize given names vs surnames]
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:21:39 PM) : Hi this s Daniel
me(02/23/2011 9:21:42 PM) : hey this is much better
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:21:48 PM) : yes
me(02/23/2011 9:23:13 PM) : i have talked to you before
me(02/23/2011 9:23:21 PM) : remember the pic
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:23:45 PM) : oh really
me(02/23/2011 9:23:46 PM) : been a while ago
me(02/23/2011 9:24:12 PM) : yes name was pootasbunny
me(02/23/2011 9:24:34 PM) : i disappeared off match
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:25:57 PM) : ok i have forgotten
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:26:06 PM) : did we chat on yahoo also
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:26:07 PM) : ?
me(02/23/2011 9:26:26 PM) : yes...u lived up around chicago
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:26:52 PM) : yes
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:27:21 PM) : i can,t remmeber what really happened???
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:28:51 PM) : <ding>
me(02/23/2011 9:29:02 PM) : yes i am here
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:29:55 PM) : can yo still remember some things about me [he doesn't remember his story from before, and is hoping she will tell him so he doesn't get caught contradicting himself]
me(02/23/2011 9:30:42 PM) : yes i remeber those hearts you send
me(02/23/2011 9:31:00 PM) : but you have new pics on match this time
me(02/23/2011 9:31:15 PM) : i have only been back on for about 2 weeks
Daniel Bill(02/23/20119:31:56 PM) : any luck yet?
me(02/23/2011 9:32:50 PM) : no just meeting and talking to people. not in any hurry...free time on the site
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:33:41 PM) : oh okay
me(02/23/2011 9:33:48 PM) : funny you contacted me again?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:33:57 PM) : very funny
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:34:10 PM) : what do you think about this?
me(02/23/2011 9:34:13 PM)ade : i had dark hair then...
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:35:11 PM) : you have a sharp memory
me(02/23/2011 9:35:32 PM) : yes very sharp
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:35:36 PM) : what do you do for a living
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:35:49 PM) : and where did tell you live? [still trying to figure out what he is supposed to know]
me(02/23/2011 9:36:07 PM) : i get public aid and am on unemployment..LOL
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:36:33 PM) : oh really
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:36:50 PM) : can i veiw your webcam [another typical scammer request - he wants to know (a) if she is real and not a baiter; (b) how compliant she is -- if she quickly complies, she is more likely going to be easy to manipulate; and (c) if he can get her to do anything inappropriate, then if money requests fail, he can always tell her he recorded it and try to blackmail her. NEVER go on webcam with anyone unless you are willing to accept the possibility that anything you do could be made public.]
me(02/23/2011 9:37:24 PM) : i would if i was not in my robe with my hair all up on my head....
me(02/23/2011 9:37:43 PM) : i live a long way from u
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:38:27 PM) : ok
me(02/23/2011 9:38:35 PM) : lol
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:38:38 PM) : how long have you been
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:39:18 PM) : please just want to look at your beautiful face
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:39:39 PM) : i want to see how pretty you are
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:39:49 PM) : i am right now in w.africa
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:40:01 PM) : not back yet
me(02/23/2011 9:40:14 PM) : oh no...not another guy in west africa?
me(02/23/2011 9:40:31 PM) : they are crawling this site
me(02/23/2011 9:40:56 PM) : i am amazed at how many men from the states are in west africa working
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:43:54 PM) : to be honest i don,t know
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:44:13 PM) : that is how it was
me(02/23/2011 9:44:21 PM) : your profile says your looking for a man who will accept him as i will accept him also????
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:45:45 PM) : its was a mistake
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:46:06 PM) : i have you ever meet anyone online or from nigeria before
me(02/23/2011 9:46:28 PM) : really? So what are u doing in africa? Where at in africa?
me(02/23/2011 9:46:56 PM) : Ghana, Benin, Porto novo?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:48:04 PM) : lagos
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:48:11 PM) : why asking
me(02/23/2011 9:49:16 PM) : yes i see the profiles and i am educated in thier words and instant love ways....they are very obvious after a few conversations
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:49:28 PM) : hmmm [he is starting to realize that this is not likely to be a good romance victim]
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:49:46 PM) : what are the experince you had from match
me(02/23/2011 9:49:58 PM) : So what is your job in lagos?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:50:53 PM) : am sorry i don,t think we are match
me(02/23/2011 9:51:02 PM) : I got taken, then i got educated and learned to report and try to stop these scammers from ruining peoples lives
me(02/23/2011 9:51:18 PM) : never even mentioned your job
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:51:34 PM) : to be hones with you
me(02/23/2011 9:51:50 PM) : honest
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:52:16 PM) : are you real
me(02/23/2011 9:52:20 PM) : what is it you do in lagos?
me(02/23/2011 9:52:31 PM) : absolutely....
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:53:07 PM) : ok dont worry about my job
me(02/23/2011 9:53:32 PM) : I am interested what took you to africa
me(02/23/2011 9:54:51 PM) : r u ther?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:55:24 PM) : I am self employer,as a private contract,people hire me to supervise work for them. I am into Building of logs cabin and recontructions of house and reparing.my work take me to alot of travel,right I am down here in Republic of Nigeria Building a logs cabin,The work is done, I only have 5days left, Then I will be back Home, you ever travel over sea for work or fun before?
me(02/23/2011 9:56:39 PM) : No but if you get back to the states, feel free to contact me. Good luck with your job
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:57:12 PM) : i like you very much
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:57:29 PM) : do you like blacks [he realizes she is not going to accept a "returning to the states soon" story, so he is setting up for a new approach]
me(02/23/2011 9:58:09 PM) : Blacks? As in what?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:59:05 PM) : i mean nigeria
me(02/23/2011 9:59:28 PM) : Nigeria is a country not black
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 9:59:55 PM) : but they are black monkey
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:00:06 PM) : lol
me(02/23/2011 10:00:22 PM) : That is not nice.
me(02/23/2011 10:00:48 PM) : You should respect the country you are working in
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:01:21 PM) : to be honest i am fake [since she is not going to accept that he is an American, he "confesses" as he switches his role to the poor, innocent young man who has too much heart to scam. This is nothing but another role aimed at finding a way to get money]
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:01:30 PM) : not real
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:01:41 PM) : sorry for that
me(02/23/2011 10:02:15 PM) : Why do u say that?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:04:32 PM) : i want to say the truth to you
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:04:48 PM) : promise me you won,t hurt me [again trying to look innocent and vulnerable]
me(02/23/2011 10:05:39 PM) : Hurt you lol...i have no clue what u are talking about...and u did not speak what truth u are talking about
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:05:54 PM) : hmmmmmmm
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:06:12 PM) : i don,t know where to start from
me(02/23/2011 10:06:35 PM) : How bout you live in nigeria
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:07:29 PM) : yes
me(02/23/2011 10:08:04 PM) : so you live in nigeria and have a fake profile on match? Why?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:08:33 PM) : is a long story
me(02/23/2011 10:09:29 PM) : who is the guy in your pics?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:14:43 PM) : i am Moses by name, i am nigeria, i was born in sept 29, i am 20yrs old, i was born and brought up from a poor family background, i lost my parent, when i was a littel boy, i my uncle took care off which is late now, ever since things has not be good at all for me, its very hard, i could not go to school, even feed my self and my junior once [and here the sob story begins...]
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:17:10 PM) : Nigeria is not a better place to be, we have no light, no water, no oil, no food, no job, no education, everything here is zero
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:19:22 PM) : no could help me, so i decide to joined a group of scam
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:19:51 PM) : because i have no one to run too
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:19:58 PM) : so sad
me(02/23/2011 10:20:56 PM) : yes it is,,,,i figure there are alot of scams online and on dating sites from africa. Are they in groups and take turns talking and chatting with women?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:21:21 PM) : yes
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:21:45 PM) : i hate hurting woman feeling
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:22:28 PM) : i don,t have that kind of mind, i feel so pity, i am not like that, [now he's trying to play the role of an innocent young man with a conscience. The truth is he is not innocent, and he does not have a conscience]
me(02/23/2011 10:22:52 PM) : do you hate taking thier money also? some fall in love with you and really believe you are coming here to be with them...
me(02/23/2011 10:23:17 PM) : Do you make good money from scamming?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:23:29 PM) : i don,t like taking there money
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:23:50 PM) : to be honest there is no gain in it
me(02/23/2011 10:24:09 PM) : so where does the money go that they send to africa?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:24:52 PM) : to the person who will recieve it
me(02/23/2011 10:25:22 PM) : so you get it for them...you dont get a cut from it to help yourself?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:25:42 PM) : i told you there is no gain in it [of course there is]
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:26:11 PM) : as from today i will not doing it
me(02/23/2011 10:26:36 PM) : there has to be some gain...or you would not be doing it
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:27:35 PM) : am not doing it again
me(02/23/2011 10:27:37 PM) : i dont think it is that easy for u to say..its probly hard to get out of
me(02/23/2011 10:27:56 PM) : i would say there are higher forces involved
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:28:03 PM) : its very easy to get out
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:28:21 PM) : yes
me(02/23/2011 10:28:46 PM) : and higher forces dont let you out easy
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:29:02 PM) : you don,t understand
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:29:05 PM) : this is it
me(02/23/2011 10:29:18 PM) : explain it to me...please
me(02/23/2011 10:30:15 PM) : i am so curious how it works
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:30:58 PM) : you can do it all alone with out nobody
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:31:22 PM) : coz now i am doing it alone
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:31:25 PM) : no boss
me(02/23/2011 10:31:27 PM) : how do you get the pics of people
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:31:38 PM) : i got it from match
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:31:45 PM) : becareful
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:32:07 PM) : then can use your pics to scam
me(02/23/2011 10:32:12 PM) : so you hack thier account?
me(02/23/2011 10:33:20 PM) : and put it all together?
me(02/23/2011 10:34:12 PM) : yes u know they can scam pics..its obvious
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:37:04 PM) : i don,t know how to hack acct [this is probably the only truly honest thing he has said--if he were a skilled hacker, he would be using his hacking skills to steal money instead of romance scamming.]
me(02/23/2011 10:37:40 PM) : how did you get this profile of this guy?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:38:33 PM) : i create the profile myself
me(02/23/2011 10:39:28 PM) : ok...i am ending this conversation...please stop what u are doing. It hurts many people who work hard for thier lives.
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:40:01 PM) : yes i know
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:40:11 PM) : i have stop it already
me(02/23/2011 10:40:19 PM) : ok
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:40:25 PM) : i feel so pity
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:40:42 PM) : i want to be a good boy
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:40:47 PM) : not a bad boy
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:41:02 PM) : and want you to take me as your mothet
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:41:06 PM) : mother [and now we see exactly where he's going. notice how he refers to himself as a "boy." He is now trying to take on the role of the poor orphan who needs help and guidance. In his culture, agreeing to be his "mother" means agreeing to take financial responsibility for him. If his target is receptive, he will then start calling her "mum" or "mommy" or something similar. It would soon be followed by pleas for money for food, school, etc.]
me(02/23/2011 10:41:26 PM) : its a choice....goodbye
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:41:34 PM) : ok bye

This conversation is a perfect example of how many scammers will change tactics when one approach has failed or has been exhausted. As soon as this scammer realized he was not going to pull off a romance scam, he changed his approach, but his goal was still to separate his target from her money. While the scenario doesn't always play out as quickly as this one did, it is a sad reality that scammers' confessions, promises of paying money back, etc. are simply new approaches to getting money.

Photos associated with Daniel Bill:

This is a perfect illustration!! Excellent job with handling the chat with him, Pootas, and a huge thanks to Dotti for the great explanations throughout.

Always remember, there is nothing a scammer won't do or say to try to steal your money!

I noticed this part of the chat in which the scammer claims that he gets no money from it (which is a definite lie) because the money goes to someone else:

Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:23:50 PM) : to be honest there is no gain in it
me(02/23/2011 10:24:09 PM) : so where does the money go that they send to africa?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:24:52 PM) : to the person who will recieve it
me(02/23/2011 10:25:22 PM) : so you get it for them...you dont get a cut from it to help yourself?
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:25:42 PM) : i told you there is no gain in it

Then, very shortly afterward, when he's trying to say he'll just quit scamming, he claims he answers to no one and works alone.

Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:30:58 PM) : you can do it all alone with out nobody
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:31:22 PM) : coz now i am doing it alone
Daniel Bill(02/23/2011 10:31:25 PM) : no boss

The two things are a complete contradiction of each other.