Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Sunriser1972 Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:56 pm
Hello All,

I have too been a victim of a love scam and as the common story goes, the lady was to come to Australia as this particular lady wants to be your wife. She starts out by trying to get your trust, tells you that she loves you in a matter of a few conversations and then she will work her way in trying to get money out of you.

The email addresses you need to watch out for are

[email protected]

[email protected]

These people go by the names of :-

Shelley Donnald, Shely Donald, Shelly Donald (bluemoonest11)

Joshua A David, Joshua A Davies (pathway _josh)

Shelley Donnald makes out that she wants to leave Nigeria and wants to come to australia and that she wants to be your wife but she needs money to come over to Australia. She also requests that you must send the money via Western Union to Joshua A David. These people are shifty and finding information about them is not frequently found. Hopefully that will now change!

In no way shape or form give these people money or identity documents. If you ask them for legal documents themself they provide you nigerian scam documents where you can see where the image has been altered. Also if you see these numbers, you should report them immediately to your local authorities.

+2348166735434
+2347051458155

I am currently in the process in having these people arrested as I have too now woken up that they are but scammers and they have given to many red flags to see their suspicion. I will do everything now in my power to see the end of these two and hopefully help others avoid these manipulative people.

The Male name was added as this is where the Western Union transactions went too and as you can see in itself that this is one of many other red flags that caused suspicion. I found this person on Face book also under the Name of Joshua A Davies. The same photos that I saw him online via Yahoo chat were the same and got me wondering and I spoke to a few of his newly added friends. They also pointed out that they became suspicious and that this person provide them a fake link to a fake business. This is what finally made me confirm in myself that these people are but legitimate scammers. Here is one of the face book messages I got from an attempted victim:-

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Re: A Courtesy Warning about Joshua A Davies (David)

Aloha Sunriser1972,

Thank you very much for the considerate warning.
He already told me he was in Nigeria, supposedly on business and sent me the link to his fake business site. He even inquired; if I knew about the scams that go on over there and if I have fallen for one. Sadly I did fall for a sob story about 5 years ago. So I am really glad to see that people like you still exist. I'm sorry that you had to go through something similar. It's people like them that make it hard to have faith in mankind. Thank you very much once again for being so kind.

Cheers for now
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I have also fake identification records of Shelly Donald where you can see the image have been altered and you can see major inconsistencies in the images (Another Red Flag).

There english is also very poor and they claim to be Americans and they also show on the social networks that they live in united states where they actually live in Nigeria, in the state of Lagos. The Phone numbers above actually show that as +234 is the international code for Nigeria. I have spoken to these people and there is one lady who claims to be Shelly where the Male claims to be Joshua.

One of Shelly's Social pages is MySpace found at :- http://www.myspace.com/fennydave as you can see her probable fake photo here. Take note also on this social page that she has a degree, she lives in Mesa, USA and she is Self Employed?? Why need the money then to come to Australia?? Wish I found this info much sooner :(

@ Operators / Admins => Proof can be given and provided if requested as this annoucement is been made global wide and I will do whatever it takes to make these scammers feel the misery they have put me through!
Last edited by Sunriser1972 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
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by Helen Halper Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:48 pm
Hi Sunriser1972!
I'm really sorry that you were scammed. Thanks for posting this information. Hopefully it will prevent someone else from being scammed.
As re forum rules, please post the headers from the emails that you received.

by Sunriser1972 Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:13 am
Not a problem

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Subject: I AM SO SORRY FOR THE LOSS
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Most correspondence has been done over yahoo chat and knowning what I know now I understand why they prefer to use this method rather than emailing.

I have also masked out my name for security and confidentiality and to avoid any possible bots sniffing out my email address; so on that note, I am not taking anymore chances either. But the most important IP number has been marked in bold with underline.
by Helen Halper Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:41 am
Thanks for the headers and well done on removing your personal information.

Email Sender: [email protected] [more info]
IP address: 82.128.24.185
IP address country: Nigeria
IP address state: Lagos
IP address city: Lagos
IP address latitude: 6.4531
IP address longitude: 3.3958
ISP of this IP: Multi-Links Telecommunications Limited
Organization: Multi-Links Telecommunications Limited
Local Time of this IP country: 2011-03-01 05:23

Email Sender: [email protected] [more info]
IP address: 82.128.38.5
IP address country: Nigeria
IP address state: Lagos
IP address city: Lagos
IP address latitude: 6.4531
IP address longitude: 3.3958
ISP of this IP: Multi-Links Telecommunications Limited
Organization: Multi-Links Telecommunications Limited
Local Time of this IP country: 2011-03-01 05:26

Definitely not living in America!
Googling [email protected] only gets hits from your posts but [email protected] shows that he is involved in homes for rent scams on Craigslist .
This one paragraph on Shelly Donald's myspace screams of a scammers bad English:

I am not going to say this again cos i have been through alot of things when it comes to a men's matter. i have been cheated by a men. and jilted slept with my best friend and many more also a nothing but a crap. so right now i don't want to make all this mistakes any more that's WHY I AM LOOKING FOR A MAN THAT WILL BE THERE FOR ME IN ANY SITUATION. not a man who want to date me for just sex and dumped me. be carefully read my mail before trying to message me. ok

by Sunriser1972 Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:01 am
Yep thats where I traced the information too as well .. what they dont realise is that I too am very good with computers as thats my trade and I am certainly qualified ;)

Yes, the english is pretty poor alright for someone who is SO native american it just amazes me ..

When I first done searches on these guys there was absolutely nothing out there ... I must of been one of their first victims ... How stupid I could of been to fall for something so stupid ... I guess even the smart people have a weak spot when it comes to love. Her story was with me about her last man was that she was beaten next to death .. now that I think about it very carefully, that would probably be more to the truth been in Nigeria :shock:

Yes I saw that information on the rentals as well and made me wonder .. you think these are scams for rentals??? Now that I look at them more closely, definately a scam and I can see it too - Gez you would have to have some balls on ya - Far out!

Well people are going to find about this lot right now and hopefully they will be caught very soon .. I just hope I get to see them when they stand up against the wall to be shot! Because I will only be clapping my hands :=)

Thanks support for your verification as well :D
by Helen Halper Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:35 am
It's a huge misconception to think that someone must be stupid to fall for scams. If you read around the forums you'll find that there are Doctors and lawyers, all kinds of folk who have been victims. The problem is that when honest people are targeted by a scammer, the scammer knows exactly what he or she is doing. These are criminals, versus someone looking for love on a dating site, with an open mind and heart.
It's great that you are posting in lots of different places. There's a much better chance that others will be able to google and hopefully won't be scammed.

by Sunriser1972 Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:22 am
Yeah! I guess you are right there Helen, to think you can be so stupid in this regards is a huge misconception .. I guess, I just feel somewhat disappointed in myself and in my normal naturem I am typically not the kind of person to let my guard down as most things I do, are secure and checked - Giving my trade, you would understand why! - SEE PS NOTE below!

I have also learned that these scammers are now located here:-

Confirming IP and locations of these scammers:

From: Shely Donnald <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: hi
41.71.150.78 = Abuja in Nigeria



Received: from 127.0.0.1 (HELO web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.82.218)
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From: Joshua A David <[email protected]>

93.186.23.237 = ISP: Research In Motion UK Limited Confirmed proxy server

A Big thank you to "The Enchantress" @ http://www.romancescam.com

I also have been doing some thinking since I have learned of this new information and I think it should be posted here as a means to help fight scamming ... Ideas, thoughts or discussion maybe could be opened up for further debate. But I think, I seriously have a good point here and it should be made aware to everybody.

I am somewhat really puzzled now about how Western Union / MoneyGram and the likes can allow such
transactions to be authorised based on the information that I provide. Meaning, for example that Western Union and there SEND MONEY forms here in Australia, explicity asks of their location and country. To provide credential identification upon requesting money, MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) a test question along with a test answer. One would think that if you do not pass any of these checks, especially with your credentials and your current location the police would be called in and you be arrested; But most of all, the money that you sent would be refused! I am really starting to think that maybe one of the biggest problems here with scammers is that Western Union and organisations itself is a fraud and should be shutdown or if not, exempted from certain countries. I do not know about other countries in regards on how they treat mis-conduct in business, but here in Australia we have what is called the ACCC (Australian Competition & Consumer Commission) and can be found here for more info.

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/142

The idea of this in short terms, is that this government department is to ensure all fair trading laws, to ensure companies do not rip consumers off and to ensure they operate in a legal fashion within our country. I think Western Union / Money Grams and the likes in the USA and all global alike should be reported for mis-conduct and to be allowing such cautious security checks to go un-noticed. This should in itself enquire about new law changes here right in itself, yes???

Just a good thought and a good way to make a good victory to rid scammers in a huge way. We all have bank accounts and if we are to send money overseas then this should be the legitimate approach for many reasons .. namely to include to avoid tax evasion or earnings.

If you think about it also .. you would certainly not give over your bank details to someone you do not know would you??? its just a bigger thing that people are aware of and they simply would NOT do it if someone was unknown to them as bank details are more of a personal identification record to someone. It is like, giving over your social security number, passport, Drivers Licence or your birth certificate right??? You see what I am getting at here???

I think the governments in our societies are NOT looking at the bigger picture here and should be reviewed with the up most importance and should have ammendments or bills attached to such organisations as these organisations are truely not a bank are they?? They are what we call a Third-Party and that is the problem right there!

I am going to start looking into this from my end over here and start seeing what can be further done here to rid this problem, but an interesting site for your team, along with any Australian who have been scammed is located here.

http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/ind ... mId/693900


I would very much like to ask the moderators and admins here would it be allowed if we can open up another forum here about discussion, questions, concerns in regards to moneygrams / western union transfers? The objective here is that the more people we can get here on such discussions in regards to security exploits and mis-conduct towards the customer who is sending the money, the better our chances are in shutting such organisations down or in ways to help these organisations to improve their operations. A truely and worthy cause as I believe, and if we approach this with the right tact and smarts, we will certainly bring global media attention to us!

OBJECTIVE ACHIEVED

To make people aware of scammers!

PS: I AM ALSO A QUALIFIED IT COMPUTER ANALYST / PROGRAMMER / DEVELOPER - Use your imaginations here on what we could achieve, as I would be very glad to be of assistance to bringing these criminals to Justice!
by Chris Fuller Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:21 am
Hello Sunriser1972,

I understand your concerns, but Western Union, MoneyGram, and similar money transfer outlets are all legitimate businesses, and used by many people for legitimate payments and financial transfers. Using such a service may also be the only way to send money home to relatives in countries where many citizens do not have bank accounts.

They also provide the opportunity to get money quickly to a person who is stranded in a foreign country after their wallet and passport has been lost or stolen. In this sort of situation, the receiver would not have any ID available - but still needs to be able to collect the money sent to them.

Scammers simply abuse the system.

Rather than try to change a method of sending money which is useful for so many people, it is better to remember one simple rule:

NEVER send money by a money transfer service to someone you have 'met' on the internet.
by Sunriser1972 Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:14 am
Shelly seems to have opened a new facebook page and is now located here:-

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000111201182

She seems to be now going by the name Anita S Curtis

She is now using this about me text:-

Am a warm and passionate person who is looking for a loving and committed relationship? am searching for a special man to adore me and treat me like a Queen and you thrive on treating my special man like a King? I enjoy being active and breaking a sweat as well as cuddling on the couch with my man to watch a great movie? I like to spoon? I love to show MY inner you in so many ways, I care for others? I am not afraid of having an occasional healthy argument and I look forward to growing relationship from it? I am equally excited to teach You about important things in my life as i am to learn about your's? i love to laugh, yet i also know how healthy it is to release a good cry here and there? i am a great kisse


After some careful searching on the net, I have found this which only points and confirms this person is a legitimate scammer.

Seems it was also used by a [email protected]

http://www.romancescam.com/blog/blog-bid-662

If anybody has already had dealings with this person, would love to hear from you here.
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