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by pvriens1 Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:38 pm
Michael Visser, email address [email protected] get in contact via Dutch dating website
Pretends being an US Army soldier based in Kabul Afghanistan. Captain of US Army in Afghanistan, 10 years in the army for peace. IP-address 40.92.71.58 (leads to Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
He send 4 different pictures...as pictures are named "mic.jpg" could be he uses a real soldiers name. and sent a picture with a person in US army cloths, but in the dark. The guy looks like the other ones, but if you compare pictures you find they are not the same.
I do not post the pictures as I think these persons are innocent people which there photos have been used.
Then I came across "scamwarners.com" and noticed a lot of similar stories.
No scam happened, however I am still communicating with him.
Does someone know if I can report him even before the actual scam happened? Still emailing with him (or whoever it is)
but he gets suspicious and thinks I am being paid to talk to him... Would like justice system US or Dutch is maybe interested to follow this lead.


Otherwise I want to warn others to prevent these scammers to make money on others expenses:

Below some paragraphs from his emails:

Hello pretty


Good to hear from you, you sound really lovely
Yes it is definitely a challenging job, I can speak dutch very well but I still make some mistakes that is why I prefer English, you English is very good, how did you learn how to speak English?
i am new to internet dating but i believe miracle do happen, love can actually be found in an hopeless place. i am a very honest man, sweet, sincere, caring, fun loving, God fearing, thoughtful, kind, and have a great sense of humour.
I am not looking for a perfect woman because i know that no one is perfect, i am not perfect as well, all i want is someone caring, sincere, polite, responsible and above all someone who truly knows what she is looking for


Uses a sad story, been all alone, no friends, no family. Father died, moved with mother to US, want to move to Netherlands. He keeps repeating he "could go out any time to meet me". the sentences do not add up..sometimes does not fit with an American who lives in US. ( I maybe am Dutch, however this did not look right).
Checked his background, could not find anything



I am originally dutch but I moved to the U.S when I was 5years old and I am in the army that is why I am here in Afghanistan to keep peace, well long story, I studied business administration and I used to work in a office but It was boring, it wasn’t for me at all so I joined the army, I am glad I did because I have achieved a lot in the army, I don’t know how long I wil stay here for, but we can get called back anytime and also I have served my minimum term in the army and I can leave anytime I want .

[b]Well I was on vacation last month and I was in the Netherlands, I have one vacation every month and my next vacation is end of next year now, but if we want to meet we can meet anytime, all I have to do is take a vacation and come there to meet you if you get what I mean

No I have never been married at all, but I engaged my ex, we broke up 3years ago because I found out that she was sleeping with my best friend and my other friends knew about it but they didn’t tell me anything so I told all of them that I don’t want to speak to them anymore and since then i have been finding it hard to trust people
I don’t know how long, but I believe we could get called back anytime but I have served my minimum term in the army so I can leave any time I want, yes my house is still in the US but I want to move to the Netherlands to settle down there.


First of all, all the question you asked me is really weird and to be honest with you I really don’t appreciate it at all, because if you have all this in mind before why didn’t you tell me what is on your mind from the start, I don’t know if you understand where I am coming from?

Anyway I don’t have Skype or anything like that its all blocked due to security reasons and I am sure you know that I can not share a lot of information on here due to security reasons, its not about you but thats the rules just for security reasons, because of what is going on in the world right now,

And about the pictures, we used to have a camera to take pictures with then but because it has been causing distraction and all that the cameras has been banned because someone has nearly lost his life because of it, because I am a captain and on the front line as well, I choose the time to get up, well I don’t but I know what to do the next day and what time to get up if you get what I mean

[b]Well it seems that the way you are talking that you don’t believe anything I say to you, that is very embarrassing and I find it really weird, I really don’t know what you take me for, and yeah if I tell them that I want to travel for something serious that I want to go and see my girlfriend then that shouldn’t be any problem at all, to be honest I have never done the holiday before but I know you can do it
I don’t know how you always word your sentences, maybe you mean it in another way but I find it a bit weird and offensive
Anyway here is my house address in the U.S I am not meant to send this to you but I will its fine
114-20 131st St South Ozone Park, NY 11420

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For one I can’t send you my ID even if I have a way to do so there is no way I can send it. It is a very private thing that I can’t even send over the internet and why do you expect me to send you my base address omg, if they find out I did so then I will loose all my benefit and including my job. Because it is very very risky. We don’t receive letters anymore for security reasons
I can’t believe you are asking all this. I really don’t know what you take me for. This is really embarrassing

Hello

To be honest. I have really had enough of you. For the past 2 days now all what I have been thinking about is you, asking me to send my whole life because of some trust issue.
I have told you everything I can. So if you still can’t trust me then I think that is your problem, I have been thinking about this issue, i don’t really know what you take me for. I feel embarrassed with all the question you have been asking me. This is not normal at all. It’s not a problem for me to send you more pictures of me. But this is getting to much.
So if you want to stop talking at this stage then it’s completely fine with me because this is getting to much for me. If you want to trust me then trust me without asking me to send my whole life to you. We’ve not even met yet and you are giving me a really bad impression about you already

[b]No I’m not getting upset at all. Trust me darling I am far from being upset. I told you that you could ask me anything but you are taking it to another level. You are acting like you are getting paid to talk to me. Is there something I should know ??
This is not how you trust people. All what you are asking me to do is just madness, I think if you can’t trust someone there is no point being with them. So if you can’t trust me then what is the point
Yes I believe in God and I believe in karma as well
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by Tim Atem Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:37 am
Thank you for posting. The best thing you can do at this point is to stop all communication with him. Don't tell him you know he's a scammer, and don't tell him you reported him here. Just let him think you dropped off the face of the planet or something.

If you can, block him from your dating profile.

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by pvriens1 Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:46 am
Thanks...I did block the email and reported this to my provider.
Took my profile off line..guess what another one popped up ( maybe same person..different profile).. reported it at the site and took profile off line.
Prefer people face to face :wink:

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