Information on romance scams and scammers.
by whyshedoesthis Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:23 am
Hello my girl offer me to be partner on her business,
she tell she will send money from some insurance of her family business.
she request me to open specific bank account.
She say will send X amount of money. If I open the account.

I believe her , but what is am wrong.

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by Dotti Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:54 am
Welcome whyshedoesthis,

Have you ever actually met this person? I know you've probably emailed and chatted, and maybe talked on the phone, and maybe seen "her" on webcam, but none of these is really meeting the person, as they don't ensure that you are actually connected with the person you think you are talking to (including the webcam, as it can be faked).

We need to see some more information from this person, but it is very likely that this person is indeed a scammer and not the person you think you are talking to.

Asking you to open a bank account is a very common scammer tactic, so what you have written makes me extremely suspicious. You should NEVER open a bank account for anyone except yourself (and in some cases immediate family members.) When you open a bank account and give that information to someone else, you are exposing yourself to a real danger. If that account is used for fraud (scamming) or anything else illegal, you are the one who will be facing legal problems, loss of money, and possibly even jail time. Even if the person were real, you still take on liability for financial decisions and actions by someone you don't know very well, and if the relationship were to end badly, there is nothing to stop that person from walking away with the money or overdrawing the account and leaving you in a mess.

Please post (or email) some more of the correspondence from this girl and we can help you to determine for certain whether you are being scammed. Either way, though, do NOT open that bank account.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
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by whyshedoesthis Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:42 am
I only have communication via Im messenger.
We both say we have special connection like we meet to be together.
I do feel it. I hope she does.
Her Job.

I do buy and sell art work for a living.i was introduced into the business by my dad and i have been going and  coming for 2 years to buy Art works.Its a very cool and interesting business to do cuz there is never loss in it.

she want me to open the account, she can send me money to be able to her. be with her and start the business as couple. I try to talk in the phone, she say only have money for her business, she is not usa.
I am trying to ask her to see her in cam. I have not won that battle. We have done thing that
amshame of. I feel big passion for her, I want to go to her.

She tell i dont have to worry, before anything come to harm me, she will prevent it.
I am not sure if i am blind in love or i am stupid.

She have some cash for available for me to send to my account.
That the only option to me to go where she is in business now.

what do you think?
by Dotti Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:26 pm
You're not stupid. You had the sense to ask. Unfortunately, I do think you are blinded by love, though.
This is a very standard scam approach. The author is most definitely not American or British. Those 2 sentences you have posted are very consistent with an African author and I have seen almost identical words from African romance scammers dozens of times (buying and selling art work is a claim they often make too). The claim that "there is never loss" in the business is also a big red flag, as it simply isn't true. That type of business is actually quite risky. There are other ways to form a partnership than to have you open a bank account and give her access. If she really has a business, she can open an account for the business herself and give you access if needed.

The fact that "she" won't go on webcam is another huge flag (though again, webcam can be faked if the scammer chose to use a porn actress with video for their photos). I am guessing that you received photos of an attractive woman in her 20's. Some of those photos were likely swimsuit photos or photos of her wearing little or no clothing. Those photos were most likely stolen from a modeling site or a porn site.

I wish I could tell you something different, but the truth is, everything tells me that this is a scammer.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by whyshedoesthis Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:55 pm
I really have hope with her.
I have picture of her. Decent picture.
then she show little without. but is not full pic of her.

I will tell her to send me money to my adress.
I will verify with my bank.

if their fund, then check is valid. is their not fund, is fake check.

thanks for your help.

I will tell her come here to visit, see how from their let see what happen.

I will define know then.
she say she from states, is in business somewhere europe.
by Bubbles Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:42 am
whyshedoesthis, your name indicates that you suspect something is wrong with this plan you have been presented with. It has all of the hallmarks of a scam.

If you can post up the email address this person is using and the headers we may be able to tell if they are indeed in Europe.

I predict the check will be a forged document. I can also see where this person is setting you up to help them clear a forged check or to send money to then for a plane ticket so they can come "visit" you.

Scammers do tell real believable stories and if you were to ask if they are a scammer, they will, of course, deny being anyone other than the person they have pretended to be.

If you can post the picture you were sent, there is a way to find the source of the picture. I too encourage you, if you are going to stay in contact with this person to be very, very careful. Please keep in contact with us here with any questions you have.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by began steele Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:01 am
Please don't give this person any form of personal details that are yours. It can only misuse them if needed to. IT could for example, set up its bank account using those details and with your address and name on it. 100% SURE THIS ONE IS A SCAMMER SETTING YOU UP TO GET MONEY FROM YOU.
Block this person and refuse all further contact with it. We would like all details you have about this one.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.

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