Information on romance scams and scammers.
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:01 pm
On July 1 2011 I was contacted by a Sgt Frank Millar based in Kabul, Afghanistan (Camp Kaia he confirmed).

This was the email he initially sent me on Facebook:

"hello

Am frank millar by name... i work with the US army but presently to Afghanistan....i am from California....i saw your profile on my wall so i decided to say hi... i will like to know you more i will also like to have your yahoo mail ... i will be waiting for your reply....FRANK"

This is his Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 00&sk=wall

Show me where on his wall there is a picture of a woman.

This was my reply:
"Hello Frank..I can't imagine what it's like to live the life you live over there every day. Facebook is great for networking and I have a lot of friends from the States on my page..thanks for writing me, I am not online for chat on yahoo or msn these days, mostly on here so if you see me online here, we can have a chat. God Bless..Jacqui"

Next:

"ooh i`m so happy to hear from you and to know that some one like you still care for people like us down here... yes it has not been easy down here especially when you are lonely man... i am 43yr old and i have a little girl, but i lost her mum who happen to be my girlfriend during her birth and ever since then it has not been easy finding true love.... i will love to know you more,like are you married?...do you have kids?.. what do you do for a living? and i will also love to know what are those thing you like doing....i will be happy to hear from you soon....FRANK"

My reply:

"Frank, I have always cared about the struggles facing you guys overseas; fighting a dirty war that is not even yours...it's very sad. Such a tragic waste of life. I am not married but a single mother;, my son is 16. I am mourning the death of my twin sister 7 weeks ago and am struggling very hard with that, she had cancer. My father died of the same thing 17 months before her. I'm not looking for love, Frank...but I am happy to be yout friend."

Next:

"ooh i see, am so sorry for you lost*, i wish i could be with you to relief your pains, but all i can say is that i will always pray for you ,... i see that you are good talented with your gift, i will love to read more of you writings, i will be very happy if we could chat on yahoo mail, so can you send your yahoo im to me? i will waiting to hear from you soon... just take easy with your self ok... but i know that God will be your strength... take care of your self for me......."

[*my sister died three months ago and I wrote a story about her with a link to my blog.]

My reply:

"As I said before, I don't use Yahoo any more, I barely chat on MSN as it is. I am just not in the mood for chat right now, I'm sorry..but like I said, if you see me online here, feel free to buzz me. It is just my way, when I am hurting Frank...nothing against you. Today I am going out all day, for some R & R...it's every man for himself today, I couldn't care less..you loof after yourself now.."

Next:

"ooh angel, am happy to hear from you...pls i dont mean to be a disturbance to you like i said i will like to know you more and if possible chat with you.... i will also like to ease your pain like a good friend will do.. i wish to make you happy again... pls i beg you to come on yahoo im, if not for anything for the sake of our friendship...i will be waiting to hear from you soon... pls take care of your self for me....and i pray that God will always guide you for me..."

My reply:

"That's nice of you to care Frank, thank you. I'll try and do something about yahoo..because I'm never there I tend to forget, I always use msn..[supplied yahoo email address]..so you can add me from there if you like. I'll need to add you too so guess I'll get your email when you request an add..I always ask my Angels to look after me...you look after yourself too, Frank.."

Next:

"hello angel..hw are you doing?...i am so happy to hear from you... i give me more joy to know that you are happy.. i will like to be close to you to ease you off your pain and trouble and to know you well...like i told you i will like us to know each other more better...i will be waiting for your reply...."

My reply:

"I am relaxing today, my son is away for the weekend..In a million years I would not like to be where you are, communication is so important, to keep track of the normal things. I haven't checked my Yahoo for a couple of days to see if you requested an add so I will do that now. Stay safe..God bless.."

Next:

"ok baby i will be happy to see you online cos am right on line... pls i will like you to add me ok to we can chat soon.."

July 23 was the last Facebook email I got from him and then we started chatting im on Yahoo.

Within a week he was saying how he really wanted to "hear my sweet voice" on the phone and gave me this:

[email protected] to set up a satellite phone for him with a $US200 subscription fee, with the name GEN Lethero as the header.

When I queried this email with said address, this is the reply I got back:

"Dear ... [red font]

We are sorry for the fact you dont understand the terms and services we have but i think all you need to do is send the information of your soldier and yours here then we can know how and where you can make your payment ..afterward you can send the payment information with your phone number.
and then you are connected it so easy ..hope to read back from you soon...
Army voice"


My response:

" I do understand what you have written; what I specifically asked was is $200 subscription fee the correct amount for this service.

When I get confirmation of a dollar amount directly from you I won't remit any further information.

Thanks"


Their response:

"That is the fee for the service..200usd

Army voice"


My response:

"Thank you for your confirmation, the amount has been noted".

I then supplied my details..address, phone numbers, internet provider (OUCH), his name and rank.

This was their response:

"Dear Subscriber (red font, as per the initial email),

Thank you for the response and your submitted data has been successfully reviewed and ready to be register with Army voice Phoning facility, In order for you to be able to use the service with our military personnel. All you have to do now is to remit the registration fee(s) and all the logistics needed shall be put in place. The Payment should be sent directly to any of our available secretary via western union or money gram to the payment information given below and the payment information should be sent to us for the confirmation of your payment as soon as its made
PAYMENT INFORMATION:

NAME.............Miss Sarah L Cheshire
Address.........Valley road Lillington Leamington spa Warwickshire
Postal CODE...CV327UF
COUNTRY.......UK"


My response:

"Dear Army Voice

I need you to confirm that this is a legitimate transaction.

No money will be changing hands until I get confirmation.

Question 1: If I decide to pay a subscription fee, does Sgt Frank Millar get a phone his end?

Question 2: Will my phone need to be adapted to allow for satellite hook-up?"

Question 3: Why is this money to be paid into a UK account when it is the US Army?


These are direct questions which require direct answers.

I await your reply."


Their response:

"It good to read from you and we ready to do what we can to assist you OK....the phone will get to your soldier as soon as the transaction is made and you don't need any configuration on your phone all you need is supply us with your numbers so we can configure his own phone then he can call you anytime and would only be able to call you on the numbers you supplied ......
As for the location where you are to pay the money this is a phone company that is joined with US ARMY and we have pickers all around the world and we have soldiers all around the world too ...i guess the address you have is the one suitable for this transaction so you don't have to worry OK...i hope we have tried in answering your questions....do have a nice time and enjoy your service...

Army voice"


On 10 August I advised them that I would be making the remittance some time that day and would it be likely Sgt Millar would be able to contact me that weekend. Frank had repeatedly said that they were not allowed cell phones because of the security risk but he used a Blackberry to access his Facebook account, the last time in June 2011 (as you will note from his wall).

Their response:

Z E R O

The upshot of me sending money to the address supplied by Army voice (I tried Western Union online) was that it was invalidated because of our strict security laws in Australia and Western Union would not give me a reason. I was asked did I know Sarah Cheshire personally and I answered no, it was through the US Army. My money is being sent back to me as we speak.

Frank has been putting the pressure on me in Yahoo im chat to keep trying and to ask someone I know to use his id (I was not able to make this transaction over the counter because of non-current photo id). I told him yesterday I was not comfortable with this any more and that it was making me nervous (don't be, he said). He even said he would email Army voice and then he said he would sue the US Defence for the inconvenience to me; and that "these people are killing my patience baby".

He also said they are not allowed webcams in camp because of the security and that the smartphones (I googled) the army was going to give them after February this year would not happen because the Taliban was listening in to their conversations and that this was now the way it was done. So I have one photo of him taken in California, still waiting on one of him in camp (which I asked for last night). He claimed several times that he had sent me some photos of him which I never got, then he sent them in im one day, a couple of his daughter also.

He wrote me several love poems in chat saying that he would die in a world without me in it, lots of beautiful endearments and telling me how much he loves me.

He has put in for 'final leave' so he can get out of the military, come to Australia to meet me, return to California, get his daughter, get his lawyers to sell his house (on 2500 "hectares" of farmland his late father left him) and settle here, marry me and live happily ever after.

Within the first few conversations online he told me he was in love with me and called me his fiance and fro me to call myself that when I contacted the gmail address I listed up there.

I have contacted ACMA (Australian Communications and Media Authority) with a complaint to cover my bases. I also listed the original email from GEN Lethero here:

http://www.scamomatic.com/ last night and am awaiting a reply.

I was told by a young American friend of mine on Yahoo last night that he has a friend based in Kabul and he is able to talk to him on his cell phone. When I tried to set up Yahoo voice call with Frank he claimed that it couldn't be done because of the risk of being hacked by the Taliban.

There is a lot more to it but this is the gist.

Any comments??

Regards, Jacqui (I am 54 by the way).
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by Dotti Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:28 pm
I apologize if I am stating the obvious, but I can't tell from your post whether you really do understand what is going on.

So I am going to reiterate to make it clear:

-You are not, nor have you ever been, talking to an American soldier.
-You are talking to a young African man who is very likely in Nigeria or Ghana or on a "student" visa in Malaysia. The English alone confirms he is African.
-He sent you photos of a soldier, but he has never even met the person in the photos. He simply stole them from a social networking or photo-sharing site and saved them to his own computer.
-You were never in contact with a real phone company. You were still writing to the scammer or an accomplice.
-It is possible that the recipient (mule) is flagged in the WU system for previous fraud, which may be why your transaction was stopped. Either way, those regulations that you didn't understand prevented you from sending your money to a thief.
-Soldiers do in fact have access to phones. People they are in contact with do not have to request or buy satellite phones for them.
-You cannot request leave for them, either. A soldier has signed up for a certain amount of service. He can't just decide to leave whenever he wants to. Soldiers also do not pay for leave, and they cannot buy early leave. If you continued, you would inevitably be asked for some fee associated with the leave. It's more scammer lies.

The best thing to do is to cut off all contact with this scammer now. Do not point out his mistakes, and do not confront him--he will only tell you more lies anyway.

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by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:20 pm
Sorry for the double post, I thought the first one didn't send.

Thanks Dotti, I had my suspicions because of the bad grammar and yes, I see what you mean.

It sounds like he is getting desperate for him to put pressure on me. but the time frame does suggest he is at Kabul, he constantly asks me what time it is here as well. He would disappear for minutes at a time on im and I asked him was he in another window last night (denied it). So probably sacmming someone else or online to his accomplice.

Don't worry, I can handle him. He is a chicken shit liar and I have done something about it. And he has been blocked from my im.

I was scammed four years ago by a French guy who wanted to marry me as well and turns out he was a hard core gay/bisexual who was only after my son (yeah, I googled his login, the same every chat site he went to - so was easy to track him..and he was a computer programmer). But that's another story..he has tracked me down again on Yahoo using another friend of mine's there im. I reported him to ACMA prior to this new episode and he was blacklisted.

So...seems I am a ready target for scammers..not any more.

Thanks for your advice.

Jacqui
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:29 pm
Just for further confirmation, here's part of the conversation from last night:

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:29:07 AM) : If you wanna send it then you have to trust the info they gave you ok

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:29:26 AM) : Baby...there must be a way

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:30:23 AM) : this woman is a secretary and she would have to go pick up the money from a western union ioffice

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:30:36 AM) : why isn't it sent to a western union office in the first place

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:30:44 AM) : i am not comfortable with it any more baby

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:30:55 AM) : Ok...baby the problem is there with you not here

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:31:15 AM) : it is yes

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:31:28 AM) : our protocols are differwnt for sendng money

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:31:37 AM) : put yourself in my shoes

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:31:44 AM) : This the way they operate,...and I am not in position to question them ok

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:31:59 AM) : 4 emails have been ignoed now to these ppl, why is that

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:32:34 AM) : but you emailed them yesterday though, did they answer?

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:32:55 AM) : So baby do what they assked you ok....and I know all will be fine....I know it a risk ..but you know I have no reason to make you feel bad cos you make me happy here

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:33:39 AM) : i can't send it via western union unless i have a current photo id and i don't have one

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:34:39 AM) : Baby get some who has and they can help you ok...it so simple ok baby ..don't make it big

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:35:02 AM) : i can't do that because it has to be my information if i am calling you

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:35:38 AM) : i already tried that and i was told if someone wants to send it on my behalf then i still have to have my own id

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:35:55 AM) : Baby just the person to help pay...it no. Problem.......just get it paid and we can talk ok

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:35:56 AM) : if they use their own id has to be their nake at the otehr end..do you get me?

jg_2c(17/08/11 12:36:26 AM) : name

frankmillar98(17/08/11 12:36:38 AM) : Baby...just ask some to use his name since you don't have an I'd so it will be fast ok

You rest your case..like I said, a chicken shit liar.

Jacqui
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:08 pm
I read through your advice link and I noticed that use of the word "baby" all the time...he has never once used my real name, he asked for my full name once in im though I didn't know why at the time.

Mostly I got angel, my heartbeat, my sunshine, my love, oh i miss you so much..NEVER once did this guy call me Jacqui. I wondered that.

I also wondered too why it sounded like I was talking to two people; there would be times when I saw some literacy in the conversation and others the illiterate crap I posted. lso he was very highly sexual and was very explicit in his intentions..again, a show off, chicken shit lying scumbag who thought he had me hook line and snker.

Thank God my brain is in my head and not in my pants or I'd still be fallng for it.

Any further developments I'll keep you posted.

:!:
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:17 pm
dotti, the email address he used is:

[email protected]

I have since found out not long ago from my young friend that there is NO Frank Millar based at that camp.

He said that soldiers call their wives or gf's and use webcams..so I am going to try and find out the IP, I'm going to go google that now, unless you have a shortcut I could use..I wanted to ping his IP but can't remember how to do it.

Thanks.

:oh-joy:
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:26 pm
http://www.romancescam.com/blog/blog-bid-6373

Scroll down the page..you will find this email listed there.

I am so goddamn mad I have smoke coming out of my ears. I want to burn this guy so bad, I really do...I am not the type to stand by and let this kind of shit happen.

Please can you find me an IP finding link, I need to see where this creep lives.

:evil: :twisted: :twisted:
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:27 pm
Thanks Dotti, asked and answered.

On my way there now.

Oh God, something is so going to go down here!!

:laugh-s:
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:35 pm
Ok, here's the thing...he never emailed me to my inbox, only on Facebook..now I know why, so I can't ping his IP.

Can I do this just by typing in his email address?
by 4warnedtwiceshy Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:46 pm
Does this mean I am deprived the opportunity to see where this little worm lives??

Is there any other way I can find out or is he just too careful I'll never find out.

:evil:

He only sent me photos through im, never email.
by Dotti Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:50 pm
Facebook messages don't give you true headers with IP's--so they aren't traceable. That's why it can't find any. There are other ways to get IP's though...Keep in mind that IP's won't actually lead you to someone's door--they will only tell you the area they are operating from.

If he is on Marisa's list, then that means he most likely attempted to create a fake profile on her dating website, as she posts all scammers who try to sign up.

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