Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Chheoun Sotheavy Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:41 pm
Recently, i lost $18,000.00 to a scammer. He supposed to be a US army in Afghanistan on the name of sgt. Gerry Gilsenan. He keep contacting me and asking me money for more $2500 for a lady supposed name Hana Abrahem Mohamed, a UN lady diplomat in Turkey. I transferred them with the money tally $18,000. to the name Hamwara Gabreil Asheih and Natline Attay Gabreil to Cairo, Egypt. I'm insure that all of them now still in Egypt because then need to wait for me to transfer them for money again. They still call me with the same number +201502272966 and their mail still operate: [email protected]/ [email protected]/ [email protected]/ [email protected].

Be informed that this evening August 23, 2011, they called me and still asking me money, yet i told them i already send them money through Western Union with $2500 on the name of Natline Attay Gabreil but nothing for real that i would send them money again because on on August 21, i just have found this is a scam, so i told them to get with nothing i have send. Also, tomorrow they gonna leave for the bank again to get the money since i have told them with the mtcn not correct one. If possible i would inform that i need cooperation from police in Egypt the most to negotiate in caught of the person who gonna go to get the money.
I wish they will never get free out of the law enforcement.

Best Regards,
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by Jillian Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:02 pm
Welcome to ScamWarners. I have split this post of yours off the topic in the News forum to it's own topic here.

I'm very sorry to hear that you have lost so much money to a scammer. Please read this topic about scammers impersonating military for some information on this type of scam: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6528

Please stop all contact with the scammer. Understand that the scammer is playing all of the roles in this, just using different names and email addresses. Any of the supposed parties involved, aside from you, are the SAME scammer. Stop contact with anyone involved with this.

Report this crime to your local law enforcement and please let us know if you have questions or need advice.

Please post emails or other info you have from the scammer so it will show up here and may save someone else from the same scam.

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by grottbert Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:28 pm
US Soldier Scam
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by Katharina Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:44 am
Welcome grottbert!
I'm so sorry you were hurt both emotionally and financially by this criminal. It is good to know you have a friend who gave you good advice and is supporting you in this trying time.

I have not confronted him yet but will do it. but want to see how far he will go before he becomes angry and "dump" me. Will drive him crazy now.


Please don't confront him. Angry scammers can decide to retaliate. Our administrator, Dotti, made a list of what they are capable of:
-sign your email address up for tons of spam.
-spoof the baiter/victim's email address and send out thousands of scam emails in their name (they will use a different reply-to address so that they get the real replies), in some cases essentially disabling the baiter/victim account due to the number of bounces, etc.
-report the baiter/victim as a scammer to their email provider
-if they are romance scammers, report their dating profile for scamming/facebook page, any other emails or profiles the scammer is aware of.
-go to anti-scam forums and other websites, and actually post the victims/baiters as scammers, or make nasty, vindictive posts accusing them of everything from adultery to felonies. This actually happens on scamwarners from time to time.
-send letters/emails to the baiter/victim's facebook friends trashing the person or making accusations as above. In one case, we actually encountered a romance victim whose scammer had emailed her employer--the nicest thing he called her in that email was a "whore".
-use the victim/baiter's physical address as the return address in fake check shipments--one victim went through several calls/visits from the police, and threatening/accusing calls and emails from the victims receiving those checks before it was sorted.


Just ignore him; don't answer his emails and phone calls, block him from your messenger, add his email address to your spam list. Sooner or later he will go away.

Did you already report his details somewhere on our forum? If not, please do it now. It will help other ladies who are in contact with him and are becoming suspicious enough to Google him. This is why we don't want his accounts closed: Your information would become worthless.

I hope you will soon recover from this ugly experience.
by grottbert Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:33 am
US Soldier Scam
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by Arnold Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:55 am
I'm very sorry about what happened to you.
grottbert wrote:But they are well desperate.

Greedy but not desperate. There are certainly poor people in West Africa, but they aren't the ones doing the scamming.
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by grottbert Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:09 am
US Soldier Scam
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by Arnold Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:53 am
No. You don't know any of his real details. He's probably working from an Internet cafe in Nigeria, local law enforcement is poor, and your local police don't have the resources to start an international investigation with no chance of success. Report it to them though. It does at least illustrate the extent of the problem.

by nikkis Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:38 pm
Do the men in these scamming countries think we are stupid. I was contacted at the begining of June by a so called American soldier who is based in Afghanistan. Well, in the begining I was quite flattered and thought wow, he is good looking although he had his shades on and I couldnt see all of his face. Anyway, long story short I asked him for more photos and I got an abundance of them in and out of uniform. Lovely I thought and then came the part where he told me after a week that he loved me and wanted to share his life with me. If I would allow him then he would like to come and visit me on leave. I agreed with him coming and so he said he would request it and arrange it. Next day I got an email from him saying he had requested his leave but he had been told that it was me who had to request it but they would only accept it if I was his wife or fiance. mmmmm I thought so I said yes and I played along with it. The next day I received an email from an email address of army troops anyway, I opened it and read it, no mention of money so I completed it and sent it back by post which it did say I could do. The address I sent it to was Washington. I emailed my soldier and he wasnt too happy that I had posted it and asked me why, I said that the form said if I could not scan it then I could post it so that is what I had done. He said he was sorry, but I had done it wrong and had to type out my answers in capitals and just send it back to them as a seperate email. So I did. The next day I got another form again from army troops this time it was saying that I needed to pay $1500 here we go I thought, I emailed them back asking them what on earth I was paying for as it was a leave that had been earned and not as a rule somthing that needed to be paid for. I was sent another email saying that it was to cover the admin and processing charge. Well I told them that I couldnt afford that and I never got another email from them. My soldier contacted me though and never mentioned anything about money. The conversation ended and I said I would talk to him tomorrow. Tomorrow came and nothing and the next day and the next day then I got an email from him saying sorry he had been out in the field and had no way of contacting me. Eventually he asked me about why I had said I couldnt afford to pay for him to come home to me and I told him, im a single parent who has to work hard to earn what little money I could get. Well he then told me that the admin had told him that if I could raise $800 then it would secure his leave and I could pay the rest at a later date. So I said I would see what I could do. By this time I had read everything on your site about the different scams that were going on and had realised that this was what was happening to me. So I played along with what he wanted from me. I mailed him and told him that I had found a loan company who would give me all the money. Within 30 mins I got an email from him saying good for getting the money and he would contact his admin and they would take it from there. 5 mins later I got an email from army troops again with a name and address of a lady that I should send the money to. Well, I did a search on the name of the lady and discovered that the lady was a friend of my soldiers on face book !!! I asked him about this and he said he knew nothing about her, strange I said, if you dont know her why is she on your friends list oh he said, I met her once last year at an army seminar but ive never actually spoke to her. Anyway, the conversation went on and he told me in no uncertain words that I was not to contact her but just to send her the money and I said, sorry but I dont send money without checking out who the person is that im sending it to. He said ok just dont bother send it and I wont come home to you. It goes on and on and on. and then tonight he sent me an email saying that I never had any intention of sending any money, I never wanted him or loved him and I was sick in the head for accusing him of being a fake and will never deserve to be loved by anyone.

I know this was a scam but please can someone put my mind at rest and let me know that I have done the right thing. Ive now deleted him from my facebook page and got rid of all his messages and emails. Is Army troops a fake and is my soldier boy a scammer. His name is Raymond Silva but his friends call him Ray and he is in the infantry division in Kabul, Afghanistan. Like I say, I know its a scam but I just want a bit of reasurrance cus right now he has made me feel like Ive done wrong by him and accused him of being something that he is not. x
by Katharina Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:27 pm
Welcome nikkis!

Yes, you did the right thing. This person is a scammer. You said it yourself - leave must be earned, the leave must be asked for by the soldier, not by a relative, and when it is granted, it is free, and the army pays for the transport home. The "authorities" are all email accounts of the same scammer.

And well done dropping him. He might try to come back to tell more lies - don't answer and confront him, please. Angry scammers can become nasty.

You have deleted his emails - so you can't post his and the "authority's" email addresses? They could help other victims who do a Google search.

I've sent you a private message. :)
by Arnold Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:44 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners. You've done exactly the right thing in breaking off contact. It's a typical romance scam, and a typical response to being accused of being a scammer. He tried to convince you that you were in the wrong and feel guilty about doubting him.
It's not a matter of the victim being stupid either. Romance scammers are very good at what they do. And there is more about their techniques here. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6529
It sounds as if you now longer have the email addresses he used, but if you do, can you post them please.

by nikkis Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:18 pm
Thank you for your replies, Im upset cus I was really still praying that I was wrong but instincts told me I was right. The man that is posing as Ray Silva uses an email addy of [email protected] he also uses one that is sgttray but I cant remember the full addy of that one. Sorry. I so hope nobody else gets a message from him. He is truely evil

Nikki
by nikkis Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:33 pm
Oh, I forgot to say, that when I told ray I knew it was a scam he tried to convince me that he knew all about the bad things that were happening, infact he said the exact words of "i was part of the team that was trying to locate the people doing these bad things to girls"
by Katharina Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:42 am
i was part of the team that was trying to locate the people doing these bad things to girls


Smart move, but not smart enough. In fact, there is another type of scam: Criminals who pretend to work with authorities investigating scams:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3198

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