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by So Wronged Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:30 pm
This is love scam over about a year's time. I've lost all my savings in the 6-digits range and had even resorted to taking out a huge loan from my retirement, ready to fly over to Malaysia where he was "stuck" to resolve everything and confirm as well about all this 6-7 month long ordeal he's supposedly was in. But quickly after the last transfer, he seemingly was able to leave the country and get through security and all these things that were supposed to be a challenge so easily and quickly.
My final real suspicion was the airline itinerary he sent me. It was so shoddy and completely wrong flight info. I had really wished he'd just put the effort to do it right, why be sloppy now?
Met Bailey George on Chemistry.com last August. Claimed businessman of about 30 years old in trades from Liverpool, but grew up in South Africa, used to do modeling and hence the photos. He used Bailey from focushawaii. Parents died in plane crash, and surviving younger sister who lives in South Africa "died" during our relationship. No other relatives he's in contact with of course. After about 2 months, was first time ask for money for unexpected customs tax for large shipment. Subsequent money was for supposed involvement in counterfeit in Malaysia where he was detained and thus, the slew of money requested.
On MSN as [email protected], [email protected]
Phone #'s used. He even had a Florida phone # but I can't find that right now.
60163503019
8613760692422
447031883082
447955155917

Address in Liverpool provided and I could even see it on Google map, but I doubt that's legit. I will be reporting this to Britain's police to inform the actual residence. Also, it lists the property at only ~$200K at most and he was claiming at the end how it's valued at million.
Claims to have his own company: B & G Textiles
People I've wired the money to:
Norazira bt Borhan supposed employee of shipping company, birthdate 9/25/75
Chia Ngee Kiat, supposedly lives at Desa Casa Apartment block A, Nilai Negeri Sembilan Malaysia, was given phone #60166504075
Collins Pedro Ahmad
Danielle Lappierre
Companies he's claimed to dealt with: Abu & Joe Engineering Sdn. Bhd.
Bormeo Offshore Supply & Services Sdn Bhd.
Yayasan Sabah Group
His supposed lawyer who I looked up to be legit, except I notice I doubt they deal with criminal cases: Chery Denise of Hishammuddin Advocates and Solicitors, [email protected]; email should be bogus because that law firm should have their own address.
MO's: like to sing but very horrible at it, loves music and constantly sends video links
very versed in the Bible and interpretation, savvy at politics, and can pick up chinese pretty quickly
Strong homophobia, a great disdain for gays
He has no qualms about breaking down so wholeheartedly into tears like a baby
Likes to say slept off, top off & can fool you that he knows Liverpool esp. with the soccer.

I really doubt he is still using this name and it doesn't ever show up in searches and he doesn't come online any longer. He's claiming to go jump off some bridge in London as his exit since it was pretty clear I wasn't giving up another dime. I wish he really did go jump but there's not going to be any justice.
And as mentioned elsewhere, when I try to get him to video chat or even provide me some informal pictures of him, he just claims he couldn't find them and why do I want to do that? How do I set it up, like he's some idiot.
I am definitely going to report to Malaysia authorities as well given how much info. I have. I also have several documents he's used to "prove" all his business dealings.
Last edited by So Wronged on Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by So Wronged Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:25 pm
An email from him but there's too many. Some during the later times were more generic and ones recognize from that popular website, forgot the name right now. After the fact, but if I knew the signs, I still can't say I could detect this written from those scum lowlives. They put effort in a lot of his contact to me initially I think. The IP traced to Malaysia, but he already claimed to be there, so no point posting the header.

Dear xxxx,

Honey, My trip was safe to Malaysia i will commence meetings tomorrow, you can reach me with this number +60163503019. Honey, you have changed my life completely. You're the one who makes me Handsome. You're the one who makes me strong. You're the one who makes me feel so important; you're everything to me.

You show your love to me every day. I thank God that I have found a woman like you. Please forgive me for not giving you enough time to chat and talk with me, but I promise I will make up for it once we are together.

All that I can offer you is a family. I can offer you a family that will stick together through the good and the bad. I can offer you a family that will support each other every day. Honey, that's all I can give...I hope that’s what you want.

I really wish that you were near me. I wish that I could just call your name when I needed you and that you would be there. However, knowing that you love me so much is enough for now, and if I can be your husband and a father to your children, then I would not wait forever to be with you. mi amor mi tesoro. You're the only one that I want.

Love Always,

Bailey George
by anita42 Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:56 pm
His English looks Nigerian to me, but we'll see what the experts have to say. I'm really sorry this happened to you.
by So Wronged Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:31 pm
Wow, unbelievable. No wonder the English was so good. This was one of the emails that really hit me in the heart, can't believe it's also something canned. I just happen to be playing with my phone and realized I had recorded some of our final conversations. One where he was breaking down so hard. The second I hear it, it automatically triggers these emotions. It's so powerful, it's unnerving. I still can't believe where he draws out that deep of pain to pull that off. I wish this could be used as evidence.
by anita42 Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:55 am
They're good at the fake tears. My scammer fake cried on the phone with me too.
by Katharina Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:59 am
I'm so sorry, Wronged. After dealing with him for one year, you must be devasted now. I do hope you are on your way to recovery; I realise this will need time.

The awful thing is that we are wired that way: Someone is crying - we feel the need to help; which is the way a decent human being should react. I hate this scammer for playing with the wonderful persons you both are.
by trickedtoo Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:07 pm
Dear So Wronged,

...I KNOW I was JUST being scammed by the same person. After being asked again for money yesterday I googled Pedro Collins in Malaysia..and I found your post. My scam started in May 2011. Chemistry.com, he claimed to have been in NYC at the time ( near me) he is Liverpool guy, the bad signing ,the youtube links... but this time...he had parents and no siblings..and then he suddenly "lost' his dad in June...probably because I told him of the loss of my own father to cancer and it bound us. ...Same Malaysian scam- he needed a bigger boat, then the tax thing. I am lucky to have a friend who's husband is in this business...stuck there due to taxes? ...they cried bullshit. He also goes by Prince Alex Malcom and Alex Malcom...

[email protected]
[email protected]
facebook Alex Malcolm ( photos prob of some model-not bad but not too good looking so you would have doubt???) he claimed to be 37 closer in age to me.

+447031828743
+60149660726

Are the phone numbers I had... I only got scammed out of 2k but still...you helped before it got worse. I want to thank you, so wronged.



Please get in touch with me on here...I want this asshole caught...I gave him 2k and then started doubting...he got 'robbed' there and I was like...hmmm and I started digging...I just found out today and of course I have tears and feel stupid and pathetic...I will post my Love letters - ..but maybe we can come together and find this guy...but YOU HELPED ME BEFORE THIS SCAM WENT ANY FURTHER and God bless you for that...and I am sending you hugs...I know how you must feel!!!!!
by trickedtoo Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:13 pm
From our scammer:
I just felt like pouring out my heart in writing and let you know how much I do love you and how close we have became in such a short period of time. We may not have known each other long but our love is strong and it means everything to me. You are the one who always makes me feel better about myself and makes me laugh at all the crazy stuff we talk about that no one understands but us. I'm glad I found you and I hope we spend a lot more happy times together in the future. Thanks just for being here for me I love you more than words I could say.
Words cannot express how much your friendship means to me. You have always found the time to cheer me up via e-mail and/or messages, and chat lines.
You always seem to know just what to say and I really appreciate that. I know that you are so sincere with your thoughts that you write to me and I know with time we will see each other and I can't wait.
Thank you for your friendship and for being there when I need you. Whenever I am down, I can think of you and it seems to work. Thank you. Before you came along, I use to think that I was ugly and just not special but now that you are in my life, you have made me feel like I am special and pretty. I know that I am worth so much to you and I love that in you.
No matter what happens in our lives, I know that you made my life so much better and I love you.

At first you were just another face in the crowd ... just another nobody passing aimlessly by, until that fateful day when my eyes laid upon your beautiful face. It was like a ray of sunshine peaking through a cloudy sky. Until that day, I was in utter turmoil ... unhappy to even be alive. You showed me that there is still hope and love in this world. You made me realize that all things are still possible. Because of you I began to feel whole and alive. I now see beyond the clouds to a brighter and better day. I thank you for loving me and accepting my love in return and also being there for me when i needed you the most.
Love you Forever
by trickedtoo Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:14 pm
Another copied letter UGH:
From the very first moment I spoke with you i felt there is an awaiting destiny . It has been so long since a woman has captured my attention so fully or made my heart beat the way it did . Looking at your photo on Facebook, your smile lights up my entire spirit. then i imagine that your laughter will fills me with joy, and your mere presence will warm any room. I have no doubt you are the woman Heaven has made especially for me.

Thank you for the comfortable conversations and for asking questions to know more about me . Most importantly, thank you for sharing your love and wanting to retain this friendship. No matter how slowly or at what distance our friendship developes, I know standing before God and our future family, vowing to be your partner for life, will be the easiest decision I will have to make.

Each day that passes makes my feeling for you to grow stronger. Although I know it’s not the best for us to be apart, I know there is nothing that can keep us apart forever. Our desires will continue to stretch across any distance, over every mountain and ocean between us. Nothing can stand between us, and nothing will stop me from meeting you.

I think and feel that you are my future and nothing can ever keep us from our destiny. I miss you more every day. I am here with open arms where you will some day finally arrive... right where you belong.
Love u 4eva "

I am crying as I post these but I hope to help some other poor woman...
by trickedtoo Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:16 pm
more this one I found on the same site from yours , So Wronged:
"I wish I didn't have to miss you. If only you could be with me always. I know I could never be any happier. But then again, I know that the day will come when I will be able to spend my every waking moment with you. I even miss you when I am sleeping!

I love you, babe. You are my one and my only love, and I thank you for being so kind with my heart. Hopefully, soon I won't have to hate missing you.

Love Always,"
by Katharina Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:14 pm
Oh dear, trickedtoo, this must be a hard time for you - having lost money and having been betrayed. I'm glad you felt up to posting here to help others.

Sadly, there is no way to find this b*****d. He is operating from a grubby internet café somewhere in West Africa, all his details are fake, even the address he made you send money to is probably fake. You can only drop him like a hot potato and leave him wondering what went wrong. Don't confront him, don't tell him you found out.

In cases like yours, you local law enforcement is absolutely helpless. The only way to slow down the thieves' business is raising public awareness and publishing the details you have got for others to find.

If you want to get in contact with other ladies here, please do it with private messages - use the PM button. Scammers can read our forum, and we want you to stay safe.
by So Wronged Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:20 pm
I don't konw if my post went through, but I just got an email from him earlier today and he mentioned about me posting. So that was fast that you found out & he wrote to me. What did you tell him? Now he's claiming he's going to pay me back. So this lowlife motherf*r has been spending quite some time trying to find another victim and no wonder has been so silent.
I tried PM but it gets stuck in the Outgoing mail. How do I get it sent successfully and into Sent box?
Trickedtoo please let me know if you got my PM.
by Bubbles Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:56 pm
So Wronged wrote:I tried PM but it gets stuck in the Outgoing mail. How do I get it sent successfully and into Sent box?
Trickedtoo please let me know if you got my PM.


Our PM system is two staged. When you send a PM it goes to Outgoing mail. While it is there, you can edit it or delete it. The recipient is notified that there is a PM for them. When they read it, your copy goes into the Sent box. This lets you know if the recipient has read what you sent to them.




Now he's claiming he's going to pay me back.
If you are being threatened by a scammer or a member here please pm one of the Moderators or Administrators. We may be able to help guide you.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by So Wronged Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:37 pm
Okay I just realized. I meant that he's claiming he's going to pay me back my money, but I'm a little worried trickedtoo hasn't contacted me. I hope you are not falling back into what he says. He is completely fooling you and lying, so please make sure you don't pass on another penny or listen to his lies after lies after lies. If you still find yourself listening to anything, insist that he gets on video chat and not for just a second. I guarantee that SOB will never do it and make up some lame excuse or just ignore your request.

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