Information on romance scams and scammers.
by 3X3 Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:49 pm
Hi,

I have written an Australian girl on connectingsingles.com. After one day she wrote me back and told
me that she has just registered two days ago. Its here first time she is trying to find someone on such a dating site. She has lost her father on duty and does not care about her mother(she is french). Her Father was a petroleum engineer. She has grown up in US but moved back to her home country Australia 6 months ago.
She has no job currently but did an apprenticeship as a tailor. Furthermore she is a counselor who helps poor people who has problems in life.

I have asked her if I can visit her and she said yes. I told her that I have to ask my boss if I get vacation to visit her. Later she asked me if I would prefer that she visit me before. I said yes why not its better for me.
Furthermore she asked me to delete my account from this dating website and she will also do so.

I got all in all 4 pictures of here, she is really nice but not a Model(I would say a normal girl)
Finally we fall in love and I want her to come but today she told me that she needs an insurance
if she would fly to me to Switzerland. She needs 750 AUD then she would get the paper and she is ready
to fly. I had a long discussion with her about verification etc., but she has not mobile and no headset and the loudspeaker on the notebook are broken. So I can't call her to prove it.
In the end she persuaded me and I have transferred the Money to the insurance guy via Western Union.

She said "if you are thinking i will dissappear after your money i will never ever do such,never ever ever.
I swear with my fathers grave "



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Here is my chat history:


--ME--
cool
so tell me what have you done in the last hours where I was sleeping
***SHE***
i cooked
i have been out to buy a few things
--ME--
what have you bought and cokked?
***SHE***
then i cleaned the whole place and also been listening to a lil of msic
just little bit of different things here and there
pork
--ME--
I have made Spaghetti Bolognese last night but cooked too much
for 2 ?
so I can eat it today and tomorrow as well ?
***SHE***
lol
for 2?
and whose the second person?
oh ok
thats nice
so you can cook?
--ME--
?
no
Spaghetti is quite easy
***SHE***
yes it is
--ME--
typical single man dish
***SHE***
yes
that is right
so what ae your plans for today?
--ME--
and frozen pizza most of the time
ok but I'll heat it before eating ?
I'll do some studying and cleaning the house
***SHE***
ok
thats nice
let me know when you are set to go
--ME--
dont wann go now want to be with you
***SHE***
me too
so you have got classess tommorow?
--ME--
yes
oh no
***SHE***
how long do you spend in school?
how many hours?
--ME--
every Tuesday, Thursday after luch I go to school
and on Saturday morning until midday as well
3 times a week
almost 20 hours a week
***SHE***
oh thats fair
and what about work?
--ME--
I work only 90 %
I work every day 5 days a week
***SHE***
i dont get that
mon to fridays
--ME--
yes
***SHE***
right?
nice
--ME--
Did you think about coming to Switzerland?
***SHE***
yes
i will come
--ME--
nooooo I cant believe that really???
***SHE***
i thought about it
am serious
--ME--
I'm the happies men on the planet now
***SHE***
i will
--ME--
man
***SHE***
aaw
am so happy too
--ME--
tell me how fast you can come?
***SHE***
hmm....i will give you a date today
--ME--
My family will be happy to meet you I think
love you baby
***SHE***
also my insurance has expired, i have to renew it and i do not have enough money to do that
would you be able to help with that?
aaw
same here
--ME--
insurance for what?
health?
***SHE***
health
yes
--ME--
sure I'll help you
***SHE***
yea
i willfind out the amount..then will let you know tommorow
--ME--
ok
***SHE***
but one more thing
--ME--
sure
***SHE***
will you promise me it is not only sex you are looking for?
i am scared baby, yes i love you already but men are sometime funny
so give me some assurance
--ME--
no not just sex, for sure sex belongs to a relationship but its not all I want to have. I want to have a girl who will be my wife in the future. I will have kids and a good family life
I want you baby !!
***SHE***
me too
--ME--
dont by scary there is no reason for it
***SHE***
yes i know sex is important but if it is just the only thing involved then its bad
i feel very safe with you already
2 mins pls...toilet
--ME--
sure ?
***SHE***
keep typing
--ME--
lool
I promise you, I'll do all to make you happy, to feel safe to be part of my life.
***SHE***
back
--ME--
?
***SHE***
i promise to be always true to you also
will never cheat on you
so tell me will it be fun down there?
--ME--
I believe you you look so truthful
hmm I dont know what is fun for you ?
You know I have to work and study but I'll spend as much time as possible for you
we can go swimming, cinema and in winter skiing or snowboarding ?
and celebrating Christmas with me and my family
so its gonna be funny ?
***SHE***
the network is quite slow
--ME--
here its ery fast ?
***SHE***
i am not getting your messages fast
--ME--
oh ok
***SHE***
yes
--ME--
its a long way
***SHE***
i love chrismas really
--ME--
16000 km distance
***SHE***
yes
very far
--ME--
yeah christmas good food, you can cook with my mother and aunt ?
bring some kind of the Ausralian culture into Germany ?
***SHE***
hmm..so sweet
but what if i cant eat your food?
lol
--ME--
you can
its not that different
***SHE***
oh ok
that is sweet to kno baby
--ME--
but we do not eat kangaroo normally ?
its more rabbit and fish on Christmas ?
***SHE***
rabbit?
really?
aaaw
why?
thos e are fine pets
--ME--
yes deliciuos ?
***SHE***
lol
i would like to taste it
--ME--
some kind of tradition dont know ?
sure you will
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
hmm...what else I can ask ?
***SHE***
hmm
--ME--
oh yes what is your real hair color?
***SHE***
blonde
and you?
--ME--
me too
***SHE***
yes i noticed in your picture
--ME--
yes
***SHE***
what time are you sleeping today?
i want you to study so you wont fail
--ME--
Ill go to bed at 11pm
now its 9:30am
so I have time
***SHE***
so go study....eat and lets talk when you are done
--ME--
not yet want to chat with you
when you will go to bed?
***SHE***
oh
hmm i go to bed early and then wake up later
--ME--
http://deu.timegenie.com/city.time/ausse
thats your time right?
http://eng.timegenie.com/city.time/ausse
Offline
***SHE*** has signed out.
?
***SHE***
i dont get you
--ME--
http://eng.timegenie.com/city.time/ausse
***SHE***
its 7 .28 by my time here
oh ok..o yea that it
pm
--ME--
think you haev problem with internet
***SHE***
yes its very slow
--ME--
yes we have 24hours clock
***SHE***
and am not getting your messages fast
yup
--ME--
no worries as long you you get my message
***SHE***
i do eventually
--ME--
wish you would be here already
***SHE***
yes me too
--ME--
its gonna be a nice day here
sunny but cold ?
***SHE***
yea
xmas would be really cold threre
--ME--
where?
Siwtzerland or Australia?
***SHE***
swiss
--ME--
yes  it will but we can warming each other
***SHE***
lol
forsure yes
--ME--
omg cant wait to book your flight and pick you up from the airport, it will be soo cool ?
***SHE***
yes
i will be happy too
--ME--
never thought that I can find someone on the Internet never
***SHE***
me too
i just started
--ME--
do you believe in god?
***SHE***
ofcourse i do, i am a christian
and you?
--ME--
no I was born without any religion, hope this is not a problem for you
***SHE***
nope
its not
--ME--
but I believe there is something else who hold the hand over the world
***SHE***
we all have diff believes
--ME--
I believe in aliens ?
***SHE***
have you see any?
--ME--
lool
no
***SHE***
lol
--ME--
just in TV
***SHE***
me too
--ME--
E.T.
***SHE***
i saw it when i was young
--ME--
Men in Black ?
***SHE***
yup
will smith
--ME--
like that kinf of movies
there will be a third part soon
MIB 3
***SHE***
really
--ME--
yes
are you praying every day?
***SHE***
sometimes i forget
--ME--
think the most modern christian dont do it
when you will come? sorry to hassle you but I cant wait…tooo excited
***SHE***
am really exited too hunny
i think next week would be fine or what do you think?
--ME--
sure I'll book you a flight once you are ready
***SHE***
yes i will let you when when i am baby
--ME--
ok but hurry up, I nned my sleep but without you cant sleep well ?
***SHE***
really?
hmm, but you slept well last night
didnt you?
--ME--
yes since yesterday its not the same...miss you so much
I woke up sometimes last night
***SHE***
lol
you are really sweet
miss you too
--ME--
take some warm clothes with you ?
***SHE***
i definitely will
baby let me go and start cooking my dinner
i will be back when am done, will also take my shower too
--ME--
you have two showers per day?
***SHE***
yes
--ME--
woow
***SHE***
yes love
--ME--
yes do that I'll ceack for the flights in the meanwhile
***SHE***
alright baby
--ME--
I'll stay online just write me once you are back
***SHE***
alright dear
take care
bye now
--ME--
bye ?
I've found a flight just check your emails honey ?
***SHE***
BUZZ!!!
am back baby
--ME--
jipiiiiii
thought you were already sleeping
***SHE***
am so sorry i got really tired after eating
its late here
--ME--
yes 10:30pm
***SHE***
right
--ME--
what have you cooked?
***SHE***
pork and chips
then i made some sauce
--ME--
mhmm sounds deliciuos
how was shower? ?
***SHE***
it is
good
i want to check the email you sent
--ME--
so ready for your bed
***SHE***
yes am all ready
--ME--
yes check my email, I think this flight would be good if you are ok with it
***SHE***
i just did
its good
but the date it what i will have to get back to you on
i dont know when my insurance will be ready..sometimes it takes few days
so lets fix that first before we buy
--ME--
ok let me know asap
are you talking about a travel insurance?
***SHE***
yes
health and all sort of insurance there is
--ME--
so you dont have currently
***SHE***
i do but its expired
--ME--
I see
***SHE***
so what have you been doing?
--ME--
tried to study but was thinking the whole time how it will be if you are here...German language course, Visa, Work, Marriage etc. ?
***SHE***
yes thats true but lets take it one after the other
--ME--
I was checking all these things on the Internet and cant stop ?
***SHE***
really?
--ME--
of course
I'm so happy that you will come to me
do you have some other pics?
***SHE***
i do but they are not on these computer right now..i can send them to you later
in the morning
--ME--
ok not a problem….go to bed darling you need your sleep
we'll chat later….at which time you get up?
***SHE***
yes
i will be up earlier before you go to bed
for sure
--ME--
6:00am your time?
***SHE***
i sent the guy that has the information about insurance an email also...hopefully before i wake up i will have info
--ME--
you are exactly 10 hours ahead
***SHE***
yes before then
i will be up
dont worry i will be up before then
--ME--
ok babe...go to bed please and take a rest
***SHE***
alright dear
take care of your self
--ME--
I will
***SHE***
Bless you baby...hugs and kissess foryou
think of me and make sure you study
--ME--
bye for now...kiss you back
***SHE***
bye love and take care
--ME--
sleep well
***SHE***
night night
--ME--
?
Online
***SHE*** has signed back in.
?
***SHE***
BUZZ!!!
hello hunny
--ME--
hi
***SHE***
you there?
--ME--
sure
always
***SHE***
what are you doing online?
--ME--
I'm eating at the moent
moment
***SHE***
oh ok
--ME--
my Spaghetti from yesterday and watching a serie on my Computer
?
***SHE***
lol
--ME--
so you are not in the bed already?
***SHE***
i just got a mail from the insurance person he said it will cost about 750 aud
thats why i came back online...
--ME--
750 AUD for one year?
***SHE***
no i was still cleaning the house
yes
i think
i didnt ask that
--ME--
ok and it covers other countries as well?
***SHE***
yes ofcurse
other countries
but my worry is how do you get the money accross
--ME--
do you have the name of this company?
just want to check if we/you can trust them
***SHE***
no i do not
i just know the guy..for a while now
--ME--
hmmm
***SHE***
no no he cant be anyhing funny
trust me
--ME--
ok
I can send you the money tomorrow via western union
***SHE***
i will scan everything to you once its done
i mean my insurance
--ME--
yes
Do you know western union?
***SHE***
not sure
i have heard that in new york before
--ME--
its a company where I can send money to you withing a few hours
***SHE***
oh..i know of money gram and not west union
sorry western union
--ME--
or there is another simple way
***SHE***
do they do online services?
i know of online
i know that is simple
--ME--
I'll transfer the money to the insurance bank account
***SHE***
i am not sure the company that does that
--ME--
Can you give me the details of the insurance guys
so where to transfer the moeny
***SHE***
when can you do that?
--ME--
ask him to give me the international bank account details
Can you ask the insurance guy ?
***SHE***
ok
i will find out
--ME--
I need the IBAN number and the SWIFT/BIC
***SHE***
i will get back on you then
--ME--
tell him he should send me an email
***SHE***
ok then
--ME--
maybe it is also possible to pay by credit card?
then its easier
***SHE***
or maybe you you should just do it online
--ME--
yes
***SHE***
if you have a credit card
--ME--
ask him what is the best way
I have
***SHE***
just send it to him directly
--ME--
so that would be the easiest way
yup
***SHE***
i will post my passport in the morning
i mean the west unuon
i am reading on google now and its possible to send online
--ME--
you talking about western union?
***SHE***
yes
i am on google now
--ME--
but ask the guy of the insurance if I can pay by credit card
that would be the easiest way
***SHE***
baby dont use your credit card for international firms
--ME--
ok
***SHE***
and i am not even sure it works
--ME--
what is the name of the company
***SHE***
i am just trying to beat ime
coz if we wait till morning your time...by the time you wake up we are almost going to bed
i will find out that tommorow and let you have everything
do you get my point?
--ME--
hmm I hope so
***SHE***
ofcourse dont be worried
i promise i would work everything out and straight
--ME--
ok maybe you can ask the guy whats the best way
***SHE***
i promise you that
--ME--
ok cool
only want to have you here soon
therefore I'm chasing ?
***SHE***
thats what am looking for too
lol
you dont get my point baby
with this west union as you said..you said he can get it in few hours right?
after you send
right?
--ME--
yes but let me check quickly
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
oh just some minutes
not hours ?
***SHE***
oh ok
so what am saying is...send it to his name...i will let him know and he gets it in the morning..i will forward my Id to him also and he gets to work..that beats time
before i wake up
i am saying other ways might take days and i am also bored here too
--ME--
hmm but not sure if the guy will go to western union and take the money from there
it sounds not very serious
***SHE***
ofcourse he will..i just checked on google we have them here
i will tell him everything
its just to save time
by this time tommorow you should have full information on the insurance and everything..and i will also scan it to you
--ME--
ok great do that
***SHE***
that is if you can send online from australia
you understan
understand
from Swiss i mean
--ME--
understand
***SHE***
but if you cant, then we wait till tommorow
i am just trying to beat time because of the time difference
--ME--
ok
I'll quickly register me on the Western Union site
***SHE***
ok baby
--ME--
http://www.mystore411.com/store/view/49 ... n-Sunshine
***SHE***
i know here very well
--ME--
ok
I need the details where I have to send the money
***SHE***
have you registered already
--ME--
working on it
***SHE***
you will have to send to him ......so i will forward everything to him ion the morning
--ME--
you can also get the money from there and bring it to him
***SHE***
he is in Queensland
thats what am saying
--ME--
oh ok
***SHE***
i will post everything to him in the morning
just send to him...to make all faster
do you need his details now?
--ME--
hold on have to check if it is possible for me to send money online
***SHE***
oh ok
--ME--
what is your date of birth?
just checking on another insurance site
***SHE***
01-december-1980
--ME--
thanks
***SHE***
yw
what are you trying to check hunny?
--ME--
if there is another way which is easier
***SHE***
you cant send online?
--ME--
hold on
***SHE***
dont pay with your credit card online to another firm across the country
its not advisable hunny
--ME--
but western union is also not the best way
***SHE***
but the west union is in your country
that is safe
--ME--
no its not save
***SHE***
or better still use money gram
--ME--
http://www.expatriates.com/html/scams.html
***SHE***
this is funny hunny
do you think i can ever be such
never
i dont know am confused now
i dont want to force you into what you dont ant to do
but all i know is i truely want to come
and am honest
--ME--
Can we also get another insurance?
http://www.travelinsuranceaustralia.com ... olicy.aspx
***SHE***
if we do you still have to pay by sending
baby are you doubting me?
--ME--
why do you need this isurance to come to me?
no
but want to be sure
***SHE***
they will stop me from travelling
am so sure
and that will waste the ticket
--ME--
I have never needed to show them an insurance
***SHE***
if you come here you wil be asked
or the US
its important
and am serious
--ME--
Travel Dates:
Saturday, 26 November 2011 Sunday, 26 February 2012 ( 93 Days)
Policy Type:
Single
Travel Ages:
Adult 1= 30
Departing From:
Australia
Travelling To:
Europe (excl. UK and Ireland) (93 days)
Insurer:
QBE Travel Insurance {QBE Insurance (Australia) Limited} QBE
Policy Name:
ELEMENTS - AREA 3 - QBEA3ELEMENTSR0910  - 119 Days
OUR POLICY PRICE:
$413.10 Insurers Price $486.00
* Required Fields
486 dollars
***SHE***
yes....
it takes days hunny if we do it this way...but the man knows how to do it fast
thats why he said 750 and he will also courier it back to me
--ME--
ok gime me the details
***SHE***
do you get my point now?
--ME--
yes I see
***SHE***
register 1st
is it possible online?
--ME--
checking
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
yes it is possible
***SHE***
ok
so what do you need now?
--ME--
send me the details and ask the guy
***SHE***
His name...Stephen Deem
Queensland Australia
--ME--
hang on
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
I still have doubts
dont know
***SHE***
in me?
or how do you mean?
--ME--
yes you told me you are a tailor, I was in contact with someone who also told me that she is a tailer and she was scam
***SHE***
Me?
why would you doubt in me?
OMG
ok canceleverything
cancel everything
why the hell would i want to be a scammer
o yes i am a tailor and what has me being a tailor got to do with omeone else who is a scammer
--ME--
I dont think this is really safe if you just give me a name to a person I have never met
***SHE***
i swear with my life i am not lieing to you
but i am not forcing you to do this
leave it..i told you i didnt want to come before
we both fell in love and wanted to come
--ME--
me too
***SHE***
do you think i would want to cheat you and end up spoiling thing?
--ME--
but I dont rely on guys who go to western union and get the money from there
***SHE***
this is someone i know
if i do not know him i wouldnt have reccommended him
--ME--
Can you give me the name of the company where the guy is working?
***SHE***
at least you checked the prize yourself
i told you i will get you all the info tommorow
all i was doing is beating the time
--ME--
lets wait honey sorry I'm feeling unwell with western union
need more details
***SHE***
do you think i will ever lie to you?
--ME--
I really love you and looking forward to have you here soon
no thats not the point
***SHE***
i feel bad for you to say that to me
i really do
--ME--
dont feel bad but nowadays you can never be sure about the internet
***SHE***
and what has being a tailor got to do with a scammer
damn
--ME--
nothing but she was also a tailor
***SHE***
you jus spoilt my morning
--ME--
I'm so sorry
***SHE***
so coz i am a tailor and she was one..
--ME--
but you know its a lot of money
***SHE***
make us the same
i dont like it when am not trusted
--ME--
no I havent said that
***SHE***
i will never steal
i have never stolen and i am not going to do such
--ME--
I understand please do not adjudge me ?
***SHE***
so it is simply because its the man who is picking it up now
thats why you are having doubts?
--ME--
yes thats why
***SHE***
ok send it to my name
--ME--
dont want to pay with western union
please send me the detials of the insurance company and I'll check and then I can transfer the money
I know it will take much more time but its more safe for me
***SHE***
if you dont trust me i feel so so sad
it is such a shame
--ME--
dont feel sad
no
honey I love you really although I have never seen you in real
but its difficult for me please understand
***SHE***
you know what
for now letshold all this
ok?
i dont want to rush into things like this
let me re-think everything
--ME--
?
***SHE***
i am also taking a risk here
what if i say i doubt you and i dont know who you really are
and i fly to you and you happen to be a serial killer?
i dont know
--ME--
lool
I wont be a killer
***SHE***
so lets take time
--ME--
no please come to me ?
***SHE***
i will sort things out myself and get back to you
that is the best
at least you feel happy now
--ME--
dont feel happy
as long you are not here
***SHE***
i am really tired
--ME--
I know
***SHE***
its been a long night of argument
--ME--
lets do the thing with western undion
***SHE***
no
i dont want you to take any risk
not anymore
--ME--
?
***SHE***
don feel bad
--ME--
I feel really bad
And I'm sad
***SHE***
i feel bad also, no one has ever said they doubt me before
maybe i acted so cheap
by saying ys i will come early
i dont know
--ME--
dont sy that
say
***SHE***
am confused baby
--ME--
what do I need to transfer the money?
***SHE***
but i swear with my life i am not lieing and i have never made such lie before
baby dont worry
seriously
look i still love you and i care
--ME--
I want to have it with me on next Sunday
***SHE***
have what?
--ME--
so lets get thing done
you
***SHE***
what do you want me to do now?
--ME--
I'll send the money to that guy ok?
***SHE***
baby
i know you dont feel alright with this and you are doing it out of love..but am not angry anymore...i understand. am just sad thats all
--ME--
dont be sad
is it possible to get a pic of your passport?
***SHE***
But one thing i can assure you is i will never cheat anyone and i will never lie
--ME--
you can do it with the computer cam
***SHE***
i can scan it later tommorow,cam is messed
why?
--ME--
for the transfer
***SHE***
you just said you want to send it to the guy
thats much easier for me
because i have to resend it again, then send with courier again
all the stress and stuff
--ME--
I see but please scan it and send it to me. If you dont have any details of the guy please send me at least yours
***SHE***
i can tommorow bt if its because of the transfer baby its pointless
god am tired
this is a long argument...
--ME--
go to bed lets talk once you get up
ok ?
I love you and I trust you baby but please, please understand my point of view
***SHE***
i dont know what to say again
you know what?
--ME--
what?
***SHE***
send it to him i will forward all the detaisl to him in the morning, and you have my word..nothing is going to happen to your money
--ME--
ok but the problem is I can only but a name there…..no adress nothing
***SHE***
ofcourse i have the address
--ME--
there are many Stephen Deem in Australia so how they should know who is the right
***SHE***
home address
--ME--
tell me
***SHE***
in Brisbane Queensland
hold on let me check
270 adelaide street, brisbane. Queensland
you have the name already
i know he was in the force before
you got it?
BUZZ!!!
--ME--
yes
***SHE***
so what next?
--ME--
I can only send 730 AUD
there is a limit
***SHE***
i will have to add the 20
--ME--
you should have the 20 dollars I think
yes
***SHE***
i will tell him
--ME--
what happens after I haev send him the money?
***SHE***
i will get all the insurance before wednesday
thatsfor sure and i will scan all to you for you to see
then give you a date on tusday night
mostlikely friday
--ME--
ok souds good
***SHE***
yes
any luck?
--ME--
can you send me his name again
***SHE***
stephen Deem
--ME--
and his emailadress?
***SHE***
thats it
his email is [email protected] or [email protected]
why?
--ME--
so yo know how wetsern union works right?
***SHE***
not sure
only the other one
why?
--ME--
one sec filling in the details
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
who is chris peters?
***SHE***
thats his alternative email....
he uses the 2
--ME--
Can you check this email again? The systems says the email is wrong [email protected]
***SHE***
yousure?
--ME--
yes
does not exist
This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account ([email protected])
***SHE***
let me log in to my email
wait
--ME--
ok
***SHE***
i delete most of my emails
wait
i will see it
--ME--
can you forward one of his email to me please?
I know you are tired but lets get it done
***SHE***
oh sorry its s.deem@ymail
not @yahoo.com
its yahoomail
ymail
--ME--
Can you forward me one of his emails please
***SHE***
sent
--ME--
hmm didnt get it yet
***SHE***
i sent it already
maybe its the network
--ME--
yes ?
***SHE***
ok
so you have the email now
--ME--
no to which adress you have sent it?
***SHE***
your email ofcourse
googlemail
--ME--
ok strange not there
***SHE***
i dont know
--ME--
normally its very fast if you send me an email
***SHE***
give me another email then?
--ME--
ry to resend
try
***SHE***
i will
wait
brb
--ME--
got it
***SHE***
oh
i just resent  again
--ME--
last thing please give me the companys name where Steve is working for
***SHE***
baby i do not have that here now
why do you keep doubting me for Gods sake
do you think i would ever lie to you
Goodness
this is really frustrating me
i just swore with my life nothing will happen to your money
I said its safe and i promise you
--ME--
ok money is on they way to him
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
whats next?
***SHE***
i dont know
i dont know how it works
--ME--
hmm
Can you send me some more pics of you please?
***SHE***
just reading it through google
just because you want to send the money for insurance?
baby i told you i would send them to you when am up later
--ME--
I have sent already
***SHE***
you asked me already
--ME--
I know ?
ask you again and again
***SHE***
i will when am up
i promise you
--ME--
but before you have to go to bed
***SHE***
its not on my computer
damn dont you trust me?
--ME--
I trust you babe but anyway want to have more pictures of you with your beautiful smile ?
whats your time?
***SHE***
i will  send them later
--ME--
ok will wait
***SHE***
Omg God
you are asking all this for verification
did i lie when you asked me earlier?
its past 12 already
this is just making me feel bad more and more
--ME--
dont feel bad I trust you
woow they have charged me 60 AUD just for the transfer
***SHE***
really?
--ME--
yes ?
***SHE***
sorry
am sure you will be happy you just forced me to send a pic
--ME--
I got an emty email from you
subject: here
***SHE***
wait
so what do i do about the western union?
--ME--
hmm I think they guy has to go to western union and ask for the money
***SHE***
how?
what i am reading here you have to send him the code
right?
its on the site
--ME--
can you send me the link?
***SHE***
wait i have to go to the page again
you are really giving me a tough time
am done with this
am tired
am sending a picture
am sending a link
am sending his email
--ME--
sorry honey
***SHE***
am sending neverything
its ok
am fed up
look do what you want
its ok
am sending the picture and thats it
--ME--
now you hate me
***SHE***
am tired
you keep asking all sorts of questions
--ME--
go to bed chat you later ok?
I wish we could go to bed together
***SHE***
http://www.westernunion.com.au/WUCOMWEB ... ageCode=en
thats it
have you seen it?
--ME--
no
I'm on the mainpage
if I click on your link
***SHE***
maybe coz you are in a different country
why do you want me to send it if you know about it already
i dont understand that part
--ME--
no I haev never used
let me check for the code
***SHE***
have you done it online?
--ME--
yes
***SHE***
send me the email then
--ME--
I'll one sec
***SHE***
hello
--ME--
hi
***SHE***
what is going on?
--ME--
cant find the code
1146798120 this is the transaction umber
***SHE***
its obvious you are scared
--ME--
they say that the person has to go to western union and show his ID and then he will get the money
***SHE***
how much was it again?
you have not sent the email
--ME--
I'll send you  screenshot
check your emails
***SHE***
ok
--ME--
Transfer Status:  
Available for pick up by Receiver
***SHE***
where did you get this from again?
i go it hunny
--ME--
ok
hope you are happy now
***SHE***
if you are thinking i will dissappear after your money i will never ever do such
never ever ever
i swear with my fathers grave
--ME--
hopefully
you already mean the world to me
***SHE***
dont say that
why would you say hopefully?
i wont
i promise you that
--ME--
cool now go to bed and chat me later
***SHE***
i never cheat on people
tell me what time you want us to talk?
--ME--
thanks honey
once you get up
***SHE***
thanks baby
when do you go to bed/
i want us to talk before you sleep
--ME--
in 7 hours
***SHE***
i will be up earlier than that
for sure
--ME--
ok cool ask they guy to get your insurance ready
***SHE***
he will
i will give you date on wednesday
latest
--ME--
great
***SHE***
love you
and thanks baby
--ME--
happy to see you soon
***SHE***
i am going to bed now
me too
but please never ever doubt in me again
i wont doubt in you too
ever
bye now
kissess and hugs
love you baby
--ME--
kiss me too
***SHE***
byea
--ME--
?
***SHE***
kissess
Offline
***SHE*** has signed out.

?
Last edited by 3X3 on Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:23 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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by anita42 Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:19 pm
This looks like Nigerian English and the fact that "she" is asking you for money via Western Union, guarantees that you are communicating with a scammer.
by 3X3 Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:39 pm
anita42 wrote:This looks like Nigerian English and the fact that "she" is asking you for money via Western Union, guarantees that you are communicating with a scammer.



No she did not ask me to transfer the money via Western Union (see chat below) Her English is perfect and she knows all about Australia. You mean she is a Nigerian who is living in Australia?

She: but my worry is how do you get the money across

Me: do you have the name of this company?
just want to check if we/you can trust them

She: no i do not
i just know the guy..for a while now
no no he cant be anyhing funny
trust me

Me: I can send you the money tomorrow via western union

She: i will scan everything to you once its done
i mean my insurance

Me: Do you know western union?

She: not sure
i have heard that in new york before <--- she grows up there

Me: its a company where I can send money to you withing a few hours

She: oh..i know of money gram and not west union
sorry western union


I don't know what to do she looks so real. Cant believe she is a scammer. If she really is one than she is
very good in what she is doing. I don't want to hurt her :(
She will chat me again in some hours to discuss the outcome of my Western Union transfer to the guy of the insurance.

I'll pay her the the flight to me but I'll book it, won't send again via Western Transfer.



How can I prove here without breaking her heart if she is real and not a Scammer?
by anita42 Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:48 pm
Have you traced the IP on any of her emails? You can do so via:
iptrackeronline.com/header.php

Scammers want money via Western Union or Money Gram because they can't be traced. I know it's hard to believe because they are very good at manipulating people and it is very painful for their victims. They have no morals and will say anything to get people to send them money. Some of them even get help from professional psychologists. You will hear from the moderators on here soon, but I am sure this is a scammer. Really anyone who asks you for money online, whom you haven't met is a scammer. The English is clearly west African.
by anita42 Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:49 pm
And also please don't tell "her" about this site. "She" can use the information to become a better manipulator.
by Helen Halper Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:53 pm
Hi 3x3!
Welcome to Scamwarners!
Yes, this certainly does look like a scam set-up. "Her" English isn't perfect, there are signs of "Nigerian English". I won't point them out because we never want to educate scammers. Have you googled "her" name and any other details that she has told you?
If you would please post an email or two, with the headers intact, we might be able to see where the messages are coming from.

by 3X3 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:05 pm
Oh noo she/he had really scammed me. Why did I not found this board here before?
I'm such an idiot :(

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Her email is: [email protected].

But anyway respect how good they are organized.



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by Helen Halper Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:36 pm
I'm really sorry that you were scammed by elizabeth hurley, 3x3, but you are not an idiot. You were targeted by a criminal. These romance scammers are really good at what they do. They are lying thieves whose only purpose is to steal money from open hearted people.

I'm happy to hear that you were able to cancel the W.U. transfer!!! :oh-joy: :oh-joy: :oh-joy:

by anita42 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:41 pm
I want to agree too that you are not an idiot at all. We are not used to these types criminals until we encounter them ourselves. You can read all the info. about scammers on here, especially the Nigerian ones and it will never happen to you again. That is great that you were able to stop that transfer. Most people aren't so lucky.
by anita42 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:44 pm
FYI - That header comes from Malaysia. There are many cells of Nigerian scammers based in Malaysia.
by 3X3 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:51 pm
She is writing me at the moment and trying to tell me that she got her laptop from her dad.
Thats why the emails came from malaysia ;)

elizabeth_hurley0
BUZZ!!!
ME
hi
elizabeth_hurley0
hi
eading you offline
just woke up
ME
thought you are sleeping
elizabeth_hurley0
doyou know what the time is?
its almost 6 am
i told you i would wake
ME
ywhy so early?
elizabeth_hurley0
and what do you mean malaysia
i am reading your offline
ME
yhave you ever been to malaysia?
elizabeth_hurley0
my father was there
he worked there
why?
ME
strange thing is that if you send me email they come from there
elizabeth_hurley0
you are so funny
goodness
look can i say something//?
ME
can you explain that to me?
elizabeth_hurley0
hold on can i say something?
ME
thought you are living in Aus but you dont
yes tell me honey
elizabeth_hurley0
because if i send money
this computer/laptop was giving to me by my dad
if i log in through his ID
i dont know maybe thats why
ME
no no thats impossible..I told you I'm an IT guy
elizabeth_hurley0
but if i log in through the other one which is what i registered it with the browser here it cant
i know
hold let me send a mail to you now

elizabeth_hurley0
for you to know i am not after your money
please call your agent and stop the money transfer
like i said i am not forcing you to do anything
i am really fed up with it all
by 3X3 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:59 pm
She has sent me another email. But this time it came from Sydney. How is that possible?

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Reply-To: elizabeth hurley <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Sorry :(
by anita42 Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:04 pm
It's best to cut off all communication to "her" with no explanation. This scammer will just keep lying to you in hopes of getting you to send money. I think you probably understand you are communicating with a Nigerian man. This is not a woman. It's best to just disappear and not let him know you know he is a scammer. If you tell him how you know anything, it will help him be a better scammer. And by the way, that scammer's explanation about the header makes no sense. This is painful for you, but you will recover faster if you just break all ties, and block him from your chat and email. Be aware, he may turn up with new identities to try to get money from you.

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