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by want2know Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:58 am
please answer this..just want to know if this email is really from Greens Horticulture Ltd. I want to apply in there company.. is this really their email??? <[email protected]>..pls..some body answer me....



Admin edit: Split from topic on another scammer and retitled -Jillian
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by Jillian Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:19 am
Hi and welcome. Can you please give us more information about this? If you post the email you received we will be able to give you advice as to whether or not is a scam.

The website at http://horticulturists.net appears to offer free email addresses, similiar to Yahoo, gmail or hotmail, so anyone could sign up for one.

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by want2know Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:24 am
I applied in there company but I'm not sure if this really there email add..here is one of their message has been sent to me...

Dear Applicant,

Warm greetings to you from Greens Horticulture Ltd and welcome to the HR department Of the UK’s leading supplier of specialist horticultural equipment. Green’s Horticulture was founded in 2003 with the aim of bringing alternative gardening techniques to the mainstream horticulture market. Right from the start we believed that our customers and colleagues should be treated as we would like to be treated ourselves and from day one this policy helped us to overcome challenges and emerge as one of the leading companies in the alternative gardening industry.

We were pleased and interested to read through your CV and also we are to inform you that your CV/RESUME information is being received for employment consideration and all your information will be kept confidential, to proceed on your application with us, you are required to answer the enclosed question and reply back with your answers within the next 24hrs of receiving. Copy each question (or the question number) and type your answer next to or below it.

Ensure that all information provided is true and correct, we reserves the right to investigate on all information and details given. Falsification of documents, incomplete data and or In-correct information is subject for Refusal or Termination of Employment.

Note: This this is a direct hiring base in UK, Company Sponsorship and Accommodation are available for successful applicants..


Regards,
Human Resources Management,
Green Horticulture Ltd United Kingdom.
by AlanJones Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:48 am
As Jillian said, horticulturists.net is a free email address that anyone can sign up for. This is a red flag - why would a legitimate company use a free domain rather than having their own domain.

Also, there is no company called "Green Horticulture Ltd" registered in the UK, but there is a "Green's Horticulture Ltd". Someone writing for the company would not make that mistake.

Based on the above, I would say that it is likely that it is a scam, so I would recommend that you proceed carefully.
Last edited by AlanJones on Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by Jillian Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:49 am
While there isn't a clear scam in that email you have posted, the writing doesn't appear to be that of a native English speaker. Additionally, the name of the company is incorrect in at least one place, as Green rather than Greens, with an s.

This this is a direct hiring base in UK, Company Sponsorship and Accommodation are available for successful applicants


Is the job supposed to be in the UK?

The company's website is here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk They have contact information listed here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/pag ... ct-Us.html

I did find an online job listing which appears to be for a call center, using the email address you posted:
http://jobs.oneindia.in/bangalore/offic ... d-our.html
The title says: Office Assistant !!urgently Needed at our HQ located in UK!
but lower in the ad it says: Job location: Bangalore/Chennai/Mumbai

Based on the info so far, I'm not certain if this is legitimate or not but would tell you to proceed with caution and if you have any other information, please list it here for us to further help you.

Are you able to retrieve an email header? If so, please post the header from the email for us.

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by Justin Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:31 am
I would recomend contacting Greens Horticulture with the contact information found on their site here http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/pag ... ct-Us.html and ask if this job posting is legitimate. If it's a scam the scammer has covered his tracks pretty well but it is very common for scammers to impersonate real companies. The fact they are using a free email address to try and hire someone is a huge red flag to me. From the contact info on their website it's clear they use a domain named email address example info@"companyname".co.uk as most legitimate companies do.

by Green's Horticulture Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:18 am
HI,

My name is Tom - I am the MD of Green's Horticulture.

It is a scam, we are not currently recruiting. And when we do recruit we only recruit from the UK.

If anybody receives a job offer or application form from our company or the UK border agency please immediately forward it to the the police in your own country, and never pay any money to these scum for visa's etc.

Hope this clears it up!

Kind regards,

Tom Green.
Green's Horticulture LTD.
by Jillian Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:27 pm
Thank you for taking the time to register and respond, Tom. For anyone reading this, I can verify that Tom is representing the real company. Please take note of his comment:

It is a scam, we are not currently recruiting.


Any emails purporting to be job offers from this company are a scam.

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by Nailgunner Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:52 pm
Thanks Mr. Green :)

It would also be very unusual for anyone to consider bulk emailling as a way of recruiting new staff unless you needed thousands of applicants. There are a lot of people looking for work now and open positions attract vastly more applicants than can be accomodated. I advertised two positions locally for fairly unappealing jobs last year and got nearly 40 people to interview. I certainly didn't need to send out bulk mail.

Are they who they say they are? Google their email address or mobile phone number and see where else they've been. Use Google Images to see if they have stolen somebody elses' photographs.
by Jillian Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:18 pm
@Nailgunner: While it's true that bulk mailings are a red flag, there wasn't actually any mention of bulk mailing in this situation. Want2know indicated that he/she had applied and my posting included a job listing online. I'm posting this for readers to note that even in the absense of bulk mailing, job offers could still very well be a scam.

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by allan Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:47 pm
hello. im allan from the philippines. im so happy i bumped this site. i am currently engaging talks with the "greens horticulture ltd" based in uk. first i've learned this job from a job posting site here in our country, it was an office asst job and i found this email address ([email protected]) so i sent my application inquiry. they responded in timely manner here's the first part of the email:

NOTE ALL ATTACHMENT WERE IN PDF FORMAT, I JUST COPIED THE TEXT BUT I STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL FILE WITH ME, IT HAS A LETTERHEAD OF THE COMPANY.

Dear Applicant,

Warm greetings to you from Greens Horticulture Ltd and welcome to the HR department Of the UK’s leading supplier of specialist horticultural equipment. Green’s Horticulture was founded in 2003 with the aim of bringing alternative gardening techniques to the mainstream horticulture market. Right from the start we believed that our customers and colleagues should be treated as we would like to be treated ourselves and from day one this policy helped us to overcome challenges and emerge as one of the leading companies in the alternative gardening industry.

We were pleased and interested to read through your CV and also we are to inform you that your CV/RESUME information is being received for employment consideration and all your information will be kept confidential, to proceed on your application with us, you are required to answer the enclosed question and reply back with your answers within the next 24hrs of receiving. Copy each question (or the question number) and type your answer next to or below it.

Ensure that all information provided is true and correct, we reserves the right to investigate on all information and details given. Falsification of documents, incomplete data and or In-correct information is subject for Refusal or Termination of Employment.

Note: This this is a direct hiring base in UK, Company Sponsorship and Accommodation are available for successful applicants..

*THIS IS THE ATTACHMENT FILE

GREENS HORTICULTURE LIMITED
ONLINE INTERVIEW
Greens Horticulture Ltd-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol, @Copyright 2012
Interview Questions
Your goal on this online interviews is to persuade us that you have skills, background and
ability to do the job, and that you can comfortably fit into the organization
INFORMATION TO NOTE: Do not volunteer any vital information that we do not ask for.
If you are Looking for employment in the best Horticulture producing industry, it’s
definitely a worthy experience, as the large range of positions are easily to be filled by many
types of professionals. We have receive your CV’s/Resumes for each advertised position, so
there for, you are required to go through the Online questionnaire, and get back to us with
the rightful information you think deem fit for all Questions.
PERSONAL INFORMATION
• Name
• Age
• Gender
• Marital Status
• Address
• State, region, country, zip code or postcode
• Phone number
• Email address
EDUCATION
• The name and location of the universities/colleges that you have graduated.
• The graduation year.
• What Degrees / Diploma / Certificates you have obtained.
• The relevant courses you have attended for this specific position i.e. offshore
Survival, Medical, and NEBOSH.
Regards,
Human Resources Management,
Green Horticulture Ltd United Kingdom.

HERE'S THE 2ND EMAIL AFTER I COMPLIED WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS:

Dear Applicant,

We acknowledge your response to the Online Interview Questions and we would subject you to fill the enclosed Employment Application Form attachment file in PDF format to proceed on your application with us. Be informed that this file must be printed and filled in your hand writing and signature with a BLUE or BLACK Pen ink and you are required to submit the filled scanned copies within the next 48hrs of receiving.

Important Note: Application that doesn't arrive before time due is subjected to auto refusal and may result in disqualification of such applicant.

Regards,
Human Resources Management,
Green Horticulture Ltd United Kingdom.

THIS IS THE ATTACHED FILE:

GREEN’S HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION FORM
Greens Horticulture Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol BS2 0XH, UK
@Copyright 2012
1
Application for Employment
Contact Information
Name:
Last First Middle
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Home Other
Email:
Status:
Gender DOB Marital Status
Position Applied For
Job Title(s):
(List all that apply)
Type of Employment: [ ] [ ] [ ]
Full-Time Part-Time Temporary
Desired Shift: [ ] [ ] [ ]
Day Evening Night
Available Start Date:
Desired Salary:
Work Experience (list employers starting with the most recent)
Employer:
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Main Phone Fax
Supervisor: ( )
Name & Title Phone
Employed From: to
(mm/dd/yy) (mm/dd/yy)
Position Held: Rate of Pay:
Primary Duties:
Reason for Leaving:
GREEN’S HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION FORM
Greens Horticulture Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol BS2 0XH, UK
@Copyright 2012
2
Work Experience (list employers starting with the most recent)
Employer:
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Main Phone Fax
Supervisor: ( )
Name & Title Phone
Employed From: to
(mm/dd/yy) (mm/dd/yy)
Position Held: Rate of Pay:
Primary Duties:
Reason for Leaving:
Work Experience (list employers starting with the most recent)
Employer:
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Main Phone Fax
Supervisor: ( )
Name & Title Phone
Employed From: to
(mm/dd/yy) (mm/dd/yy)
Position Held: Rate of Pay:
Primary Duties:
Reason for Leaving:
Work Experience (list employers starting with the most recent)
Employer:
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Main Phone Fax
Supervisor: ( )
Name & Title Phone
Employed From: to
(mm/dd/yy) (mm/dd/yy)
Position Held: Rate of Pay:
Primary Duties:
Reason for Leaving:
GREEN’S HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION FORM
Greens Horticulture Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol BS2 0XH, UK
@Copyright 2012
3
Work Experience (list employers starting with the most recent)
Employer:
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Main Phone Fax
Supervisor: ( )
Name & Title Phone
Employed From: to
(mm/dd/yy) (mm/dd/yy)
Position Held: Rate of Pay:
Primary Duties:
Reason for Leaving:
Education
Type of School Name of School Mailing Address Years Completed
Diploma, Degree, and
Major
High School
College
Grad School
Other
Office Skills (office staff only)
Typing Yes [ ]
No [ ]
WPM: ______
10-Key Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Personal
Computer
Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Model: _____________
Software
Applications
(please list)
Word Processing:
Spreadsheet:
Other:
Military
Have you ever been in the armed forces? Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Are you a member of the National Guard? Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Military Specialty: Current Status:
GREEN’S HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION FORM
Greens Horticulture Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol BS2 0XH, UK
@Copyright 2012
4
Other Skills Or Experience (not included above)
Personal References (do not include relatives or previous employers)
Name:
Last First Middle
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Home Other
Occupation: ( )
Company Name & Job Title Phone
Personal References (do not include relatives or previous employers)
Name:
Last First Middle
Address:
Street City State Zip
Telephone: ( ) ( )
Home Other
Occupation: ( )
Company Name & Job Title Phone
Have you ever been convicted of a felony? Yes [ ]
No [ ]
If yes, explain:
May we contact your current employer? Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Agreement
I authorize the investigation of all statements contained in this employment application form. I understand that, if I am hired, any
misrepresentation or omission of facts by me is cause for immediate dismissal at any time. I hereby give the Company permission to contact
any or all schools, previous employers (unless otherwise indicated), and references, and hereby release the Company from any liability as a
result of such contract.
I understand that the Company has a pre-employment drug and alcohol testing policy. Consent to and compliance with this policy is a precondition
of my employment. I further understand that employment may be based on the successful passing of a job-related pre-employment
physical examination.
I authorize the Company to request from a consumer reporting agency an investigative consumer report including information about my credit
records. Upon written request from me, the Company will provide me with information concerning the nature and scope of any such report, as
required by the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
I further understand that my employment with the Company is "at will," meaning it can be terminated at will for any reason and at any time by
me or by the Company.
Signature of applicant: ___________________________________ Date: ________________
This Company is an equal employment opportunity employer.

THE THIRD AND FINAL EMAIL:

Dear Applicant,

We are totally impressed with your performance so far as your Education Qualifications and Experiences suit our requirements and we do belief you could be an asset to our ever growing organization. Attach above is the recruiting Greens Employment Contract Agreement Form in PDF format. Kindly download it, go through it carefully. You are subjected to sign below the Employment contract if only you agree with the terms and Law of the company.

This agreement is of the two parties, both the company and the employee. You are only required to sign the Employment contract/service agreement form if only you agree with the term and condition as stated in the file , as soon as that is done you are subjected to get back to us with a neat scanned copy of both files within the next 48hrs of receiving. Failure to meet up with the time given, application will be cancel immediately without prior notification.

Regards,
Mr. Davis Ledgerwood,
Human Resources Manager,
Green Horticulture Ltd United Kingdom.

HERE'S THE ATTACHED "CONTRACT AGREEMENT":

GREENS HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT AGREEMENTS
Greens Horticultures Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol, BS2 0XH, United Kingdom
@Copyright 2012
EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT
This Agreement is made on this date…………...………, between Greens Horticultures Ltd and I
Mr/Mrs/Ms …………………. …………………………………………………….
WHEREAS, THE COMPANY DESIRES TO EMPLOY Employee for the period and upon
and subject to the terms herein provided: and
WHEREAS, the Company desires to be assured that Employee
(i) Will not compete with the Company for the period and within the geographical areas
hereinafter specified and
(ii) Will not employ or disclose any of the company’s proprietary or confidential
information:
WHEREAS, Employee is willing to agree to be employed by the Company upon and subject to
the terms herein provided;
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the premises, the mutual covenants and agreement
hereinafter set forth and for other good and valuable consideration, the receipt, adequacy and
sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged, the parties hereto covenant and agree as follows:
1. Term of Employment; Compensation. The Company agrees to employ Employee from the date
hereof as an employee from the date hereof or until the earlier termination of this Agreement
pursuant to the terms been a Three years (3yrs) contractual Employment Contract. The
Company will pay Employee base pay for his services rendered hereunder at an initial monthly
rate of £2,800 British Pounds Employee’s salary shall be paid in accordance with the
company’s regular payroll and withholding deduction as are required by law and such other
payroll deduction, as are determined by the Company policy or as Employee may approve.
Also Employee is entitled to additional (i) Cost of living allowance of £500 per month
(ii) Entertainment allowance of £200 per month
(iii) Feeding allowance of £500 per month
(a) Company Sponsorship for successful applicant is as follow:
i. Free Employee Visa
ii. Free Flight Ticket
iii. Paid Vacation
iv. Free Accommodation
v. Medical/Retirement Insurance.
GREENS HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT AGREEMENTS
Greens Horticultures Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol, BS2 0XH, United Kingdom
@Copyright 2012
2. Office and Duties. Employee shall fit the position as applied and shall have duties normally
ascribed to those position and as assigned to him by the Company from time to time in sole
discretion. Employee shall act at all times to promote the Company’s business and best
interest. Employee shall devote substantially all business time, labor, skill, undivided attention
and best ability to the performance of his duties hereunder in a manner, which will faithfully
and diligently further and expanding the business and interests of the company.
3. Termination of Employment. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Agreement,
Employee’s employment shall terminate on the death of the Employee and may be terminated
by the Company, as follows;
(a) In the event of Employee unable to meet up with His/her WORK PERMIT FEE which
will not be covered by the company Sponsorship as it would be required by the
The United Kingdom Border Agency Visa Bureau Home Office before formal approval
of entire Traveling Documents as mandated for all NON-EEA immigrants aspiring or
willing to live and be eligible to work in United Kingdom, employee would be
disqualified and employment contract will be withdrawn without further delay or to carry
out any proper direction by the company with respect to the services to be rendered
hereunder or the manner of rendering such services, willful misconduct in the
performance of his duties hereunder, or conviction of a crime involving moral turpitude.
PART B.
EMPLOYMENT, CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION AND
INVENTION ASSIGNMENT AGREEMENT
As a condition of your employment with GREENS HORTICULTURES LTD, its subsidiaries,
affiliates, successors or assigns (together the “Company”), and in consideration of my
employment with the Company and my receipt of the compensation now and he rafters paid to
me by company, I agree to the following:
1. At-Will Employment. I understand and acknowledge that my employment with the
company is for an unspecified duration and constitutes “at-will” employment. I
acknowledged that this employment relationship may be terminated at any time, with or
without good cause or for any or no cause at the option either of the company or me, with
or without notice.
2. Confidential information.
(A) Company Information. I agree at all times during the term of my employment and
thereafter, to hold in strictest confidence, and not to use, except for the benefit of
the company, or to disclose to any person, firm or corporation without written
authorization of the Board of Directors of the Company, any Confidential
information of the Company. I understand that “Confidential information” means
any company proprietary information, technical data, trade secrets or know-how,
including, but not limited to research, product plans, services, customer lists and
customer (including, but not limited to, customers of the company on whom I called
or with whom I became acquainted during the term of my employment), markets,
software, developments, inventions, invention, processes, formulas, technology,
designs, drawings, engineering, hardware configuration information, marketing,
finances or other business information disclosed to me by the Company either
directly or indirectly in writing, orally or by drawings or observation of part or
equipment. I further understand that confidential information does not include any
of the foregoing items that have become publicly known and made generally
available through no wrongful act of mine or of others who were under
confidentiality obligations as to the item or items involved. In the event that I am
required by law to disclose any confidential information, I will give the company
prompt advance written notice thereof and will provide the company with
reasonable assistance obtaining an order to protect the confidential information
from public disclosure.
GREENS HORTICULTURE LTD EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT AGREEMENTS
Greens Horticultures Limited-Totterdown Bridge Trading Estate, Albert Road, Bristol, BS2 0XH, United Kingdom
@Copyright 2012
(B) Former Employee Information. I agree that I will not, during my employment with
the Company, improperly use or disclose any proprietary information or trade
secrets of any former or concurrent employer or other person or entity and that I
will not bring into the premises of the company any unpunished document or
proprietary information belonging to any such employer, person or entity unless
consorted to in writing by such employer, person or entity.
(b) Third Party Information. I recognized that the company has received and in the future
will receive from third parties their confidential or proprietary information subject to a
duty on the company’s part to maintain the confidentiality of such information and to use
it only for.
TERMINATION CERTIFICATION
This is to certify that I do not have in my possession, nor have I failed to return, any software,
devices, records, data, notes, reports, proposals lists, correspondence, specification, equipment,
other document or property, or reproductions of any aforementioned items belonging to
GREENS HORTICULTURES LTD, its subsidiaries, affiliates, successors or assigns
(together the “Company”).
I further certify that I have complied with all the terms of the Company’s Employment,
confidential information and invention assignment agreement sign by me, including the
reporting of any inventions and original works of authorship (as define therein), conceived or
made by me (solely or jointly with others) covered by that agreement.
I further agree that, in compliance with the Employment, Confidential information and
Invention Assignment Agreement, I will preserve as confidential all trade secrets, confidential
knowledge, data or other proprietary information relating to products, processes, know-how,
designs, formulas ,development or experimental work, computer programs, data bases, other
original work of authorship, customer list, business plans, financial information or other
subject matter pertaining to any business of the Company or any of its employees, clients,
consultants or licensees. I further agree that for twelve (12) months from this date, to the extent
permitted by law, I will not hire any employees of the Company and I will solicit, induce,
recruit or encourage any of the Company’s employees to leave their employment.
I further agree that for twelve (12) months from this date, to the extent permitted by law, I will
not either directly or indirectly engage in ( whether as an employee, consultant, proprietor,
partner, director or otherwise), or have any ownership interest in, or participate in the
financing, operation, management or control of any person, firm, corporation or business that
engages during the term of my employment or in which, during the term of my employment,
the Company proposed to latter become engaged.
Mr Stephen Masters
HR Director for the Employee Selection Team, --------------------------------------
Greens Horticulture Limited. (Employee’s signature & Date)
----------------------------------------
(Signature)

GOOD THING I HAVENT SPENT ANYTHING ON THIS SCAM, AND FOUND THIS SITE. HOPEFULLY I COULD BE SOME KIND OF HELP FOR FUTURE WOULD BE APPLICANTS, IT'S JUST A TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE JOB BECAUSE I ONLY APPLIED FOR OFFICE ASST JOB AND IT'S AWKWARD FOR AN INTERNATIONAL COMPANY TO HIRE SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY.
by Justin Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:15 pm
Hi allan!
Glad you got suspicious and found the site before loosing any money. Thanks for posting those emails it will help others avoid the scammer who search details of the emails.

Justin

by allan Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:25 pm
hello justin. yes it's too good to be true scenario. and while im answering the form, i was wondering why is it asking if i have a connection with the military? i also emailed the REAL greens horticulture, i googled their website, and forwarded them the forms that i received, hopefully Tom will read my post because it's alarming for their company, the scammer is using their real company address and has its own letterhead.
by Justin Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:33 pm
The scammer just puts bits and pieces in there to make it look official and ask questions that a real employer would.

The real company is aware that scammers are using their name. They were kind enough to post in this thread confirming they are not hiring and this is a scam. Unfortunately besides putting a message on their website there is not much they can do. It's very common for scammers to impersonate real companies to try and legitimize the scam.

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