Information on romance scams and scammers.
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:10 am
Hi this guy met me on fb and started chatting as we proceed with our chat he ask me to move to yahoo chat as it is safer to taklfrom there,I started falling inlove with me and wants me to come to us,after he retire from Afghanistan us army,He is divorced and with a 8 year old daughter,he is now 22 yrs in army and wants now to retire but he has two yrs to go, He said the reason for his divorce his he chose his career above his family,He want s me to write a letter to his colonel to relief him from his duties in Afghanistan,He also gave me a secret code with the colonels email adress and use the code in the subject line,This will allow the colonel to read his email.But I have to use a created email Yahoo or google with my name and his surname,Pls note he does not want money from me.He snet me a lot of pictures of what he looks like and his name appear on his uniform as what he said his name was to me,Is this a scam,I also ask for his rank number and said that it is dangerous for him and his family and the this will also give away his post of where he is stationed,He cannot call me due to security reasons,He ask his aunt to call me,and she did not sure how real I have the number on my cell,Pls help is it a scam what should I do,
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by AlanJones Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:29 am
Hello hatescam01 and welcome to ScamWarners.

Yes it is a definite scam. It is not possible for parents, spouses, friends etc to request leave for soldiers. Leave is earned by the soldier. He might not have asked you for any money yet, but you can be sure that the request will come (probably in the form of paying for his leave).

As to the pictures having his name of them, it is very easy to set up an email address in any name you want, it is all part of the scam.

The best thing to do is to cut off all communication with him and block his emails.

Could you also post his email addresses (and that of his "colonel") here, so that others can find them.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:48 am
Hi Alan thanks for the help.He gets very upset because I want to break all ties with him,can you see if these email address are legit,It all sounds so true and he wants to come to SA to fetch me and he also wants me to visist his aunti US,please keep it confidential ,I dont want to get hurt in this ,His name is Collins waite.his email ,[email protected] and his colonel is [email protected],, he also gave me a code,77wsGoonM.

He told me that he is in Afghanistan

please help,
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:52 am
Sorry Alan I repeat the code its 77wsGoomM

He wants me to use this code to email his colonel so he can be with his family as the army is getting dangerous in Afghanistan,
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:01 am
Hi Alan ,I have a contact number of his aunt as he supposely say + 13177918952
by AlanJones Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:03 am
It is a definite scam, a colonel would not be using a gmail account for suposed army business. He would be using his Army email address which will end with @us.army.mil.

The reason he is getting upset is that he is losing a victim and therefore losing money.

As I said before the best thing to do is cut off contact with him - don't email and tell him you're doing it, just block him - he is a criminal and only interested in your money.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:07 am
Hi Alan,


Thanks will you let me know if the contact number I emailed to u is a scam too,


Thanks
by AlanJones Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:12 am
hatescam01 wrote:Hi Alan ,I have a contact number of his aunt as he supposely say + 13177918952


The phone number is a real US phone number and belongs to a James D & Kelley Worley in Indianapolis.

If the scammer wants you to ring them then they will be in some way involved in the scam as well.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:16 am
Thanks for this Alan I will keep you posted
by AlanJones Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:21 am
My further research shows that Kelley Worley is 34 years old, which is strange considering she is meant to be the aunt of someone who is at least 39 years old.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:29 am
Hi Alan,

Thanks This help a lot and he is 44 yrs old as he said to me ,thanks
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:42 am
Hi Alan,


All the pictures he sent me looks so legit with him in Afghanistan,and posing with cheerleaders,just you dunno if it is real or not and the uniform clearly has his name on it. Do u want me rto sent u a picture of him
by hatescam01 Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:37 am
Hi Allan,

This guy Collins was on Facebook and I see the Kelley Worley you mentioned is also on FB ,because I recognise her face when he was on FB in his friendslist,

Chat soon
by AlanJones Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:05 am
The pictures are of a legitimate US soldier, but it is not the person you have been communicating with.

The real soldier placed his pictures on a social networking site such as Facebook and the scammer has stolen them and set up an email address that uses the name of the soldier (or a close match).

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by Dotti Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:25 am
hatescam,

It is imperative that you cut off ALL contact with this scammer immediately. No matter how real it seems, it IS a scam. There is absolutely NO doubt about that.

The reason the pictures look real is because they are real. He stole them from a real soldier's facebook page, photo-sharing page, or somewhere else online. He is just pretending to be the person in the photos. He doesn't even know that person--he just copied the photos and is using the name on the uniform. In reality, the person writing to you is almost certainly a young black man from Africa.

The moment a "soldier" asks you to write to the US military and ask for ANYTHING on his behalf--whether it is leave, phone, or something else--he has shown himself to be a scammer. The US military is a VERY self-contained organization. They do not ALLOW civilians to make requests for soldiers. A soldier is responsible for requesting his own leave (and everything else), and those requests are handled internally. Leave is like vacation from your job. He is only eligible for leave if he has earned it--and he does not pay for it (not even for insurance or a refundable deposit). There is no such thing as a special leave to go visit a girlfriend or fiancee (and as afar as the US military is concerned, a woman the soldier met online has absolutely NO connection to him, and is not recognized as a fiancee, beneficiary, or anything else.) Sometimes a scammer will try to tell you that it is a new policy, or a special policy, or that it is because he is in a classified or high-security position. None of this is true, and it NEVER will be true, because it would go against the basic principles of the military's structure.

As Alan said, the money requests typically start with the fake leave request. The "colonel" would respond that leave was granted, but that you have to pay a fee for leave. Sometimes scammers will skip this fee, but inevitably, before the fake soldier can come to see you (which will never actually happen because the scammer has no access to the person in the photos you have been sent), something will come up that requires your money.

Everything connected to this "relationship" is fake. Scammers often use multiple names/characters to make themselves more believable. Often it is the same scammer playing multiple roles, but sometimes it may be a group of scammers working together. The colonel is fake (and is either him under another name or an accomplice). The facebook pages associated with this scam are fake too.

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