Information on romance scams and scammers.
by morninglory Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:47 pm
i think he may also be a scammer, using the military for his cover. he wanted to chat on mate1 yesterday. when we chatted he said he hated using them for chat & could i go to yahoo. said yes & "i am soo happy! i am thankful for my friend who introduced me to this site!" then when we started chatting he went idle so i left. we have talked today.
from mate1:
magalife1405
LOVE IS LIKE HONEY
Man, 39 years old
Seeking a woman 30 - 54
Beebe, Arkansas
I love: good music, good friends, good food, dancing, live shows, helping others, volunteering, going to sporting events, playing baseball, reading literature, writing creative non-fiction, and making the most out of sour situations. I have been told i am very vibrant and would like to meet someone who can compliment the light and not take away from it.
A woman who loves to have fun, but also knows when to be serious. Qualities I find attractive are: honesty, intelligence, humility, kindness, sense of humor, passionate, affectionate, understanding, a good listener, someone who has morales and knows how to treat a man in the same manner as he would like to be treated as a woman

in chatting he c & p'd the above in describing himself & what he wants. said he was from "okc, us" but was stationed in malayasia on an "important peace keeping".
when i asked him what time it was there his response took as long as it did for me to google it. here is some of the convo:
:why did you get divorced?
abeltocarl:well i live in tulsa Oklahoma before i headed to afghanistan from the us for peace keeping where i spent 3andhalf years im thru with it already and presently im in malaysia {KL}. im here on a important issues peace keeping touring ,im once married but divorced i got married to a spanish lady who based in the state and i was told after my departure and divorced she left the state and left my 8yrs old kid with my grand mom because i lost my both parent when i was still 9 and my grand mom took care of me.
abeltocarl:my son name is ryan which i bet he would be 11yrs old now.i really do want to get back to home and settle down with the right woman,i dont mind if she have kids all i need is love and honesty , whom i can spend the whole of my life with , no drama, i dont mind relocating to meet her and live with her if you dont mind, i would like to know more about you
:how much longer are you going to be overseas? or do you know that?
abeltocarl:well my contract is gonna take long but i wanna taminate it and get retire but before that i wish taking a leave home once i make it with the woman of my life
he asked for my number so we could text told him it's too expensive on my plan for overseas calls/texts. hje said he still has his us number. i asked him if we could wait. he said i am an understanding man. i understand you.
he keeps typing <ding>. i don't get it.

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i think i found the real carl abelto on badoo.com

will post more when i know more.
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by ratt84 Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:18 am
caught me on tagged

Abelto C
Tagline: WHERE IS LOVE
Member Since: August 20, 2012
Gender: Male
Location: Tulsa, OK
Age: 33
Relationship Status: Single
Interested In: Friends, Dating, Serious Relationship, Networking

About Me
TV: tom and jerry :mrgreen:

About Me:
A man who loves to have fun, but also knows when to be serious. Qualities I find attractive are: honesty, intelligence, humility, kindness, sense of humor, passionate, affectionate, understanding, a good listener, someone who has morales and knows how to treat a woman in the same manner as he would like to be treated as a man. ,I love: good music, good friends, good food, dancing, live shows, helping others, volunteering, going to sporting events, playing baseball, reading literature, writing creative non-fiction, and making the most out of sour situations. I have been told i am very vibrant and would like to meet someone who can compliment the light and not take away from it. Boring is not an option, intelligence and good conversation welcome I Would like to meet some one special with a lot of heart, desire, passion who isn't afraid to speak his mind.

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...add me at [email protected] ...


pics stolen from a US military personal, Chris G. from his 2007 army album, Camp Taji, Iraq

To [email protected]
Opened 2012/10/29
Location Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (86% likelihood)
Opened on (175.138.127.95:50728)
by ratt84 Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:22 am
meetup.com/members/62028132/

Phillip Donovan
Location: Garnett, KS
Meetup-Member since: September 11, 2012

same pics here
by ratt84 Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:01 am
wow thanks for the message how are you doing and where are you from?

Received: from [175.138.127.95]
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012
From: Carl Abelto <[email protected]>
by angela2958 Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:31 am
Have any of you talked to him on the phone? Well I have and I wish now I had found this info much sooner! Had I found this site sooner my family would not have spoken to him! I'm just wondering what makes you feel he's a scammer? ? I will be looking into this matter much closer! Please feel free to send me any info you may have on him to my email address at <address removed before more scammers can use it to pick up a new target - dotti>! My family and myself have talked with him since June 7 of this year. I have much invested in him and until Proven otherwise I will contenue to have complete faith in him!
by Dotti Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:29 am
Welcome Angela,

I apologize for being blunt here, but it is extremely important that you understand before you get in any deeper than you already are.

There is no "think" or "maybe" about it. There is no argument or debate. There is only cold, hard, fact.

The person using the email address shown IS AN AFRICAN SCAMMER.
He is NOT an American soldier.
He is NOT the person in the photos.
He is NOT coming to visit you, ever.
He is NOT in love with you.
He IS telling the same lies to multiple women at the same time, under this identity or others.

ratt84 is quite experienced in researching scam profiles, and her information is accurate. As she has already said, the photos are stolen from a 2007 online photo album.

The grammar and syntax of the chat posted by the OP are clearly African, not American. Again, there is absolutely no doubt. I could have told you from that alone that anyone claiming to be an American soldier writing those words is a scammer.

The dating profile is typical scammer cut-and-paste. One quick search shows that scammers have used these words again and again. Choosing a piece of the profile, including the misspelled "morales" shows that these words are in fact copied, and have been used frequently in scam profiles, not exactly a surprise.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22a+go ... =firefox-a

Do NOT ask him to explain. He will only tell more lies. Do NOT point out any mistakes that have been, or are, pointed out--when you point out a scammer's mistakes, he uses that information to make the scam more believable the next time. When you point out a posting, he will just create a new address to scam the next victim from.

If for some reason he actually "confesses" (it does happen sometimes) his new story will be lies too. Appealing to his conscience will do no good--he has none. He sees you (and every other victim) as nothing more than a source of money. He will say whatever is necessary, tell whatever story or lie he has to, in order to keep you hooked. THIS IS NOT A RELATIONSHIP TO HIM--IT IS A JOB, AND LYING IS JUST A TASK.

The only thing you have to gain by remaining in contact with him is heartache for you and your family--and if you have children, continued contact could lead to even more serious emotional harm for them.

If you want to post chat logs or emails here, or forward some of his emails to me, I would be happy to point out many of the other things that show he is a scammer--but you need to cut off ALL contact with him - NOW.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Bubbles Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:38 am
angela2958 wrote:I have much invested in him and until Proven otherwise I will contenue to have complete faith in him!


If you continue along this path Angela, you WILL lose money to this scammer. He is not the person you are talking to. On the internet, anyone can claim to be anyone they want. You have no way of knowing who they really are.

Scammers count on what you said above. They count on their potential victims becoming victims because of the time the victim has spent "getting to know" the scammer. This does not mean he isn't a scammer. He is a scammer.

Romance scammers will wait a long time to hit you up for money. Romance scammers will absolutely hit you up for money eventually. That is what they do. I hope you will listen to those above who have heas of experience identifying scammers.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by Spook Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:25 pm
http://en.netlog.com/richardgraham97
richardgraham97
richard graham
49 years old - male - United States
I am a very nice, caring and humble man who knows what love is, what it takes to love and be loved.. i am a very nice, caring, loving, God fearing and fun fill man who will go to any length just to make my woman happy, just to give her the best she truly deserve, just to make her the happiest woman on earth because i believe my woman will be the happiest when she has all she's looking for morally, financially, romantically and in every ramification


22:53 I can't stay focus anymore bcs your beautiful pics as gotten all my attention and right now om carried away,can I get to know your?
Babe u got yahoo or msn
[email protected]


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