Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Joyce Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:23 pm
I have been communicating with this british guy who claimed that he is an IT engineer. He told me he travels very often worldwide. He accepts his business project sometime for 3 months, 6 months or 1 year. He is divorced with an 8 year old daughter. His daughter is currently living with his ex in UK. He is divorced because he caught his ex wife stealing money together with his best friend, while he was away from work. He is divorced for more than 4 years now. I know him through Facebook in the month of Feb 2012. SInce then, we have been communicating. He said he wanted to come and see me after he finished fixing up a problem that he did for a malaysian client. That he would only be in Malaysia for 2 weeks, after that he would fly to Australia to meet me. That was the plan.

However, the plan changed.
He told me he could not come because his client held him "hostage" by taking away his passport in ransom of US$50,000. I asked him why, and he told me that usually when he accepts a job overseas, he will have to report taxes to the UK relevant tax office. However, because the payment offered by this malaysian client was little, he made a stupid mistake of not reporting tax to the relevant tax office, and accepted the job. He went to Malaysia and stayed for 3 months to finish off the project and continued his other project assignment in Europe. However, he told me he received calls from this dodgy Malaysian client to come and fix a programming problem, he did months ago. He obliged and went. That was why he told me he would only be in Malaysia for 2 weeks.
To cut the long story short, he began to start borrowing from friends, me and some of his business contacts. From me, he borrowed about US$16,000 and some others that were his living and hospital expenses. He managed to gathered the sum completely ( on middle of November) and gave to this malaysian client who then return his passport to him. By this time, he would have overstayed in Malaysia. So he went to the british embassy for help. According to him, he signed an agreement with the embassy that once he lands in Australia, he will have to pay the overstay fees. And he also got from the Malaysia immigration an extension pass allowing him to stay for 2 weeks maximum. His last day to stay in Malaysia was 1 Dec 2012.
Till to date, as I am writing this message, he is still not here in Australia. He told me that in order for him to travel I need to pay for his ticket and also PTA ( Passenger Travel Allowance) which is required for him when he gets on board a plane. So I gave him the funds to do so. Then he got robbed on the way, he went to get the air ticket. And was stabbed , so he was being sent to the hospital. After discharged, he went to get his ticket from the ticketing centre. While he was there, he passed out, because he lost a lot of blood. Again, he was sent to the hospital. But because he has to pay for the hospital expenses and now he has lost his PTA money. He is asking me to help him with US$2000. These money will pay for his PTA, living accommodations and fines for overstay in Malaysia.
I would lke to know if this person is real.
He usually communicates with me via yahoo online chat.
His yahoo ID : brunologan68
Yahoo email: [email protected]
He is living in : Puchong Pardana, Vistaria Condomium, Kuala Lumpur, Mayalsia
I usually send money to him via Western Union or Moneygram

Can you help me to check if the above person is real? I am very concerned.
Here are pictures of him:-
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by Gateway Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:56 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners.

Reading through what you are telling us this is a Scam, he is not in Malaysia and you will probably never see your money again.

Please STOP all Contact, with this man, no phone calls, emails, etc.

Could you post emails from him with the headers

If you wish you can email me at
[email protected]

How to get E-Mail Headers
http://www.isipp.com/resources/email-headers/
by vonpaso xlura Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:06 am
Please go to scamwarners.com, upload the pictures there, marking them as fake, and put the URLs here.

He may actually be in Malaysia, as there is a fair amount of scamming in the area (some done by Nigerian expats), but he's not British, he's not going to visit Australia, and everything else he has said is a lie. I'm sorry you've been scammed. In the future, remember: don't send money by Western Union or MoneyGram, and don't send money to someone you've met online but not in person.

... ni los estafadores heredarĂ¡n el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by jolly_roger Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:36 am
Yes agreeing with the other members. I'm sad to hear you have been suckered in by the shifty trickster.
re: He told me he could not come because his client held him "hostage" by taking away his passport in ransom of US$50,000. I asked him why, and he told me that usually when he accepts a job overseas, he will have to report taxes to the UK relevant tax office That statement is not correct and doesn't happen like that.
As you would now be aware, the individual is fake. The rest of the story it has told you is all cock and bull I'm sad to say. Any money you may have sent will be lost because once the scammer collects it, the money is unrecoverable. That's the reason they favour wu/ mg. The tranference of the funds is quick and sometimes no ID is needed for collecton. The scammer disappears off into the sunset. I know that's not the news you seek but it's better you know the facts.
by Joyce Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:53 am
Thanks guys!
I am terribly affected by this reality. I am very sad and heart broken.
I will tried to recover any emails he sent me because I deleted them when I was arguing with him some months back.
by TerranceBoyce Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:51 am
You re not alone.

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61688

It's calculated that there have been 200,000 British romance scam victims alone. So it's no wonder that the scammers are rampant and flourishing. In that report the biggest amount a scammer has taken is Pounds Sterling 250,000 and, if I recall the case, the scammer nearly managed to kidnap the victim too.

These people are criminals and not people you'd ever experience romance with. They won't come after you but some will try to get you to travel to them, which is a big mistake.

You've lost a lot and it's going to hurt for a long time but, if you don't let go, it's only going to bring you more hurt, because he'll make you keep paying. That's his only interest. If he has other victims on the line, he may be able to ease back on you for a while, and leave money demands for now, but he's shown his hand.

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by jolly_roger Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:58 am
Hang in there joyce.
quote Joyce= < I am very sad and heart broken. > end quote.

Yes. The usual emotions will be felt and you will feel sad for a short time. Some of us in the forums have been scammed ourselves and fully conversant with what you're dealing with. Don't think others will not understand. First of all, publishing your story is already putting you on the path to healing. Others will view your report and without realising it, you've already helped someone in the future. These slimey tricksters are very good at fooling people, please don't be too harsh on yourself. You will recover from the experience but when you recover depends upon your resolve. Reporting the scam artist is a step in the right direction.
Yes it is useless argueing with them. It's far better to cease all communications with it by immediate effect.
That really confuses them.
You will need to be wary in the coming days or weeks about more scam contacts by the same con artist using differing names or email addresses.
Last edited by jolly_roger on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
by Tracy7 Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:42 am
Joyce, he gave me the same sad story...I told him that I could not help him that I did not have the funds. I told him that I also had a problem with anyone taking jobs where they are not reporting it to the government and paying taxes.
by Tracy7 Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:45 am
Thinking back on this I thought it was more than one person that I was in communications with, the responses and conversation had a completely different vibe or attitude to them. I was constantly suspicious of how he found me (facebook) and why he contacted me and I could not get a sufficient answer.
by 4X1X9 Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:30 am
Tracy7 wrote:Thinking back on this I thought it was more than one person that I was in communications with, the responses and conversation had a completely different vibe or attitude to them.


That is a distinct possibility Tracy7 you may have been passed between different scammers belonging to the same unit. Or it could be just that the responses are from cut and paste scripts or automated responses and so sometimes they do not respond to the questions you may have asked.
by jolly_roger Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:17 am
Tracy7 wrote:Thinking back on this I thought it was more than one person that I was in communications with, the responses and conversation had a completely different vibe or attitude to them. I was constantly suspicious of how he found me (facebook) and why he contacted me and I could not get a sufficient answer.


And that is almost certainly true Tracy.
Have you read the page, http://www.nairaland.com/37929/yahoo-ya ... e-magazine
Then http://metro.co.uk/2012/03/02/nigerias- ... ys-338017/ also may be of interest?
Gives a bit of an indication of what people are up against.

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