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by sugar888 Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:23 pm
Hi everyone!

I am hoping some of you can comment on my current situation right now. I think I have been scammed in the most unique way. I'm not sure if he intended to do so from our first conversation but I think he just thought of it once he figured out I was vulnerable.

I met him thru skype. He was referred to me by my friend. I am in the BPO industry and was looking for clients. He claimed to be living in UK and he sounded and pretty much looked liked one. A few weeks after our chats both for business and personal matters he told me he liked me and wanted to have a more personal relationship aside from business matters. My business wasn't doing so good at the time so he really showed that he will be the one who can help me with that because he claimed to have a big BPO business in UK and Pakistan. He sometime even lets me join his conversations on skype with other clients even if i just stay on mute. We would talk for hours and hours and he really did sweep me off my feet with his words. He was very sweet and caring and wanted to talk all the time. He promised me so many things with regards to my business and I was even hoping he was the answer to my prayers. He promised to spend New year with me after he would be visiting his other business in Pakistan. Im from the Philippines by the way. He told me he was half Pakistani but was British born. He failed to come for new year and apologized to me dearly about it. There was some changes in his behavior once he was "supposed" to be in Pakistan already. A week ago, he asked if I could lend him some money because his credit card was blocked due to too much activity and he was in Pakistan. Stupid as I was I sent him the money thru Western Union. He gave me the name of his alleged friend from pakistan where I could send it because he said Western Union wwill only allow Pakistani valid ID for claiming the money. The name sounded the same as his father's name. I know his parents name and even his sister's name. The name he gave me were all legit. He told me things about his family which was really sad. I have confirmed that what he told me was true because when I was beginning to realize that he is hiding something from me, I googled the name he gave me, in which where I sent the money. Articles came out about his family, what has happened to them and why he is in Pakistan. I then found out that the name he gave me to claim the money from western union was his other name or his Pakistani name. He didnt live in England as what he told me, he was already living in Pakistan for 11 years. I read all the articles and half of what he told me about his family were true except for the part that he wasnt living in UK when we started talking. Now, I just want the opinion of other people who might have better experience about this. Can this be considered a scam already? I talked to him 3 days ago, I asked for help about the business but I didnt tell him I know everything already. He promised to help. The amount I sent him is not really big but I just want to make sure that this is not a start of a bigger trap. Im not sure what to do next. I researched on the companies he mentioned that he works for in Pakistan and they do exist. I did my homework on facebook and the companies really exist in Pakistan. He always promised that he wanted to come here and invest in my business. Im sure he is good in what he is doing and his business does exist. What should I do next? Am I just over reacting? He gave me real names, real photos of himself. Please help me on my next move. I am not sure how I should talk to him on our next conversation. Please give me your opinion. Thanks so much
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by Spindel2 Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:34 pm
Hi sugar
Its a lot of red flags here, but you have seen that too.

Have you ever SEEN him on webcam ? Doing things you ask him to, like raise his right hand or something?

Western union
Creditcard got cancelled
Needed to borrow money
Did not come to visit ,excuses
You knw he can steal all that info about the company and the family history on the internet, if you found it , he can too...and use it as his own big lie.
Dont know how they can make that conversation you heard, but wait for the mods here, maybe they can tell you more.
Scammers are not stupid, atleast not all of them , some are highly educated and know how to do bussiness .
Phonenumbers, IP adresses , adresses comfirmed , etc .No need to look at the internet if he actually has stolen the info there .
Good you have not lost much money , YET ...
by ratt84 Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:11 pm
because his credit card was blocked due to too much activity and he was in Pakistan

several red flags
and do Brits really do business in Pakistan??? :shock:
can you post his email address and pics?
by sugar888 Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:53 pm
Thanks for the opinion guys. Really appreciate it! Well I'm not planning to give him any more money. That was pretty much it already for me. I'm just waiting for his next move but really there are several red flags already.
We haven't tried talking with the webcam on ever so that's another red flag. One thing I have noticed too is that he always put me on mute before when we talk if he gets a call before he was supposed to be still in England, then when he said he was in Pakistan already he would openly talk to other guys there with their language. I didn't doubt because from day 1 he told me he was half pakistani so thats the reason why he knows the language. Oh well.. I guess I'll have to wait and see but for sure I'm not giving him any money. Once again thanks for your opinion guys.
by began steele Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:38 pm
I don't suppose you would know what language he was speaking any more than I would. It may be Nigerian languages or Pakistani ones. They both have several ones so take your pick . I doubt if he is telling the truth in any way at all and all he does is what scammers do-steal identities. Of course he is a scammer and email headers would tell you where from, and just because he could be in Pakistan doesn't mean he is not one either. He could be an Al Quaeda or Taliban terrorist raising money for bullets and IEDs to kill soldiers. All I do know is he is a scammer getting money from victims via WU transfer, no IFs or BUTs about that part.

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