Information on romance scams and scammers.
by swanflower Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:43 pm
I am from Vietnam. I met a guy on dating site, he said he's Polish but working and living in Cardiff (UK), now he's in offshore cause he have to work on oil rig for Macdermid. He is Chemical Engineer and learned master in Bussiness Management of Cardiff University. He send mails to me once/2 days and chat with me sometimes. He also gave me his pictures and his phone numbers (+44 793 448 7779). when i called him, it's can't connect ..but he can delivered my messages and reply me some hours later. He said he can't call me cause he's in offshore, can't use his office phone. I asked him why he can't use his phone to call me, He said that because of network failure. Then i asked him if he didn't call me i won't meet him again. Then he called me later but his voice sounds strange.. he "stress" too much on his intonation ( And in his mail, his grammar seem quite bad.. i am vietnamese but my grammar i think better than him). He said he will send me some gifts before he come to my country and asked me my address for sending gifts( but i haven't gave him yet). I really don't care his gifts. Although Until now he has never ask me money or something about sex.. but i am really confusing because when i ask him on webcam, he said he's in offshore and he can't.. and got angry with me because my doubting..... Can someone tell me he is a scammer or not ? Thanks in advance.
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by vonpaso xlura Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:53 pm
Could you post the emails, including headers? We can usually tell from them.

Date scammers do sometimes send gifts; they are purchased with stolen credit cards. There are typical gifts that they send. If his replies, or the gifts, seem to have no connection to anything you've said about yourself, he's probably a scammer.

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by swanflower Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:56 pm
And when he send messages to me , that's not his phone number , thats numbers started with +254.... but i send messages to his number he can delivered all. and when i chat with him, he didn't ask me about my life before ... he said his wife died 2 years ago because of Kidney cancer. I really don't know what i have to do now ? Please help me...
by swanflower Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:04 pm
This is one of his mails

Greetings My Darling..
>Please pardon my late responds i have been
>busy
> with a project, am almost to the finishing point, that was what kept me
> busy
> this days, I am using this line to appreciate you for taking your time
>replying my emails. and giving me the best of companionship...sometime i
> keep wondering and saying to myself finally i had a wife and a life
>companion...honesty with the calmness i find in you and the
>understanding I really can't believe i have finally find a wife, 
I
> know these past week have been really hard because we couldn't be
>together. We've both been strong and it's almost over. soon We can spend
> the rest of our lives together waking up to each other every morning. I
> love you with all my heart and soul. You are truly my angel.
>
>
>We
> are not being fast. but please my sweetheart we should follow our
>heart. although i believed we are on the right track. i can feel it in
>my life since the first day we knew each other from that site. Lastly i
>want to take few lines to know more your dialect would you mind teach me
> the basics words in your Language..? for
> example how do you say this words?
>
>good morning??
>How are U?
>what is your name?
>have U eating?
>where are U?
>and how do U call My Love ?
>I
> am very much interested to know more about the Life and culture there
>before our meeting. I am looking forward to hear from you when time
>permit you Take Good care .
>
>
by TerranceBoyce Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:15 pm
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/447024091130

It appears that the phone number you mention was used by a scam courier site. I know you've seen that and it isn't a good sign.

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by Dotti Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:28 pm
The mistakes in that writing tell me you are dealing with an African.

Combined withthe phone number, there is no doubt that it is an African romance scammer writing to you.

The best thing you can do is post the name and email address he is using, and cut off all contact with the scammer.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by swanflower Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:43 pm
Thank you so much !

His using name is Collins Richard . And his mail is [email protected].
by TerranceBoyce Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:06 pm
As you probably know, that isn't a name from Poland.

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by swanflower Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:43 pm
I am really sad cause i wasted my time on something useless ... but i love the man in pictures's smile so much .. when i'm working or learning i always think of his smile .. though he never know who am i ... maybe i'm a fool .. thank you so much !
by jolly_roger Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:22 am
swanflower wrote:I am really sad cause i wasted my time on something useless ... but i love the man in pictures's smile so much .. when i'm working or learning i always think of his smile .. though he never know who am i ... maybe i'm a fool .. thank you so much !


No, no,no swanflower. You are not a fool and do not think that! It is not wrong to have warm feelings for another. Not your fault the other individual is a loser and tosser. The first four lines from the above e-mail were enough to agree with the other members of the scam. Is unfortunate these so called dating sites are simply fraught with danger and overflowing with scamming con artists willing to take honest folk for a ride.
Simply stop all communications with it will be the best course of action for you.
by swanflower Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:45 am
Thank you everone !
Maybe he realized that i knew he's a scammer, he stopped mailing me or stopped sending messages to me. I remembered when i chat with him ... he said that : "if i still doubting him then he will react. and i should wait until then" . I had never gave him anything except my phone number ... but i am so worry .. what will he does to react me ? Will he use my pictures to scamm anothers ? I'm really scare that things will happen to me. Cause i don't want.. anyone will be hurt like me ...
by jolly_roger Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:17 am
swanflower wrote:Thank you everone !
Maybe he realized that i knew he's a scammer, he stopped mailing me or stopped sending messages to me. That is possible swanflower. Another possibility is the scoundrel realised you could not be scammed. It will now be out searching for easier targets to rob. You are good for publishing your story because others will see the report when conducting a search.
I remembered when i chat with him ... he said that : "if i still doubting him then he will react. and i should wait until then" . That comment shows the trickster not achieving it's own way with you. When scammers write, they love their targets following the script but when the victim starts asking questions, the scammers get confused. That is when they become upset because they do not receive the pay day that is expected.
I had never gave him anything except my phone number ... but i am so worry .. what will he does to react me ? Will he use my pictures to scamm anothers ? I'm really scare that things will happen to me. Cause i don't want.. anyone will be hurt like me ...
If worried about your phone number, perhaps change it? Maybe ask your phone provider to block the scammers number? Maybe only to receive local calls for a short time? You could reverse the changes after. Is possible your photos could be used in future scams but is unlikely. I too have supplied many photos and many personal info with a scammer with no adverse effects. Not saying it will not happen but more likely no. Is important to realise no harm will come to you regardless of what some silly scamster says. Scammers are all about ripping money from you. It won't spend money trying to harm you in any way, so you have nothing to fear. I am sorry the slimey individual has wasted your time. You do not realise it, but your report has already helped someone in the future from this predator. And for that, we can all say thankyou.
by swanflower Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:13 am
I want to post those pictures of scammer here to keep many others stay away from him. but i really don't want to hurt the real man in pictures. Cause i know He's innocent.
And My friend just send to me some mails of other scammers who she met from a dating site. when i finish my homework i will post those mails...
by Gus Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:39 am
Hi swanflower,

Here is a link to show you how to post pictures here:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219

Unfortunately scammers use photos of innocent people to support their scams - but it's always important to post those photos as "used by scammers" as they provide strong evidence to other potential victims that they are being used to commit fraud.

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