Information on romance scams and scammers.
by Pa Mantis Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:42 am
coolbaby500 wrote:i hope you are in atmosphere of peace and love.It was very great to me when i found your profile in my searching for a responsible and reliable person to have a good friendship with and I found a great spark in my heart despite that I have not seen you in person,but there was a feeling that really gave me a nice pleasure to communicate with you and see how the sun will shines like,am willing to be your friend and here is my email address which you can contact me([email protected]) and after that i promise to send u my pictures in my next mail for u to know who i am, and how i looks like ,
Miss.joy
([email protected])

Their pseudonyms include the word "baby".

Googling their Yahoo email gets over 1500 hits, if that's not spamming I don't know what is.
Surely Yahoo could shut down their email account as spamming is not permitted in their T&Cs ...

Yahoo.com wrote:Reports of spam originating from Yahoo! Mail accounts (e.g., [email protected]) receive special attention. As spamming is expressly prohibited in the Yahoo! Terms of Service, any account caught spamming will be subject to termination.
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by Bubbles Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:16 pm
Welcome to ScamWarners Pa Mantis, without being pedantic, spamming and scamming are different activities.
Spam is most often considered to be electronic junk mail or junk newsgroup postings. Some people define spam even more generally as any unsolicited email. However, if a long-lost brother finds your email address and sends you a message, this could hardly be called spam, even though it is unsolicited. Real spam is generally email advertising for some product sent to a mailing list or newsgroup.

In addition to wasting people's time with unwanted e-mail, spam also eats up a lot of network bandwidth. Consequently, there are many organizations, as well as individuals, who have taken it upon themselves to fight spam with a variety of techniques. But because the Internet is public, there is really little that can be done to prevent spam, just as it is impossible to prevent junk mail. However, some online services have instituted policies to prevent spammers from spamming their subscribers.
Source: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/S/spam.html

Scamming is to trick or swindle someone out of money or some other valuable possession.

We discourage closing down scammer's email addresses because they are kind of an anchor point for our information. The other reason shutting down email accounts doesn't work is it takes approximately 2 minutes to set up a new email account and continue the activity.

We don't deal with spamming here, except we work real hard to keep the site spam free. We are called ScamWarners for a reason. I hope you will join us in exposing scammers and educating people who might become victims, or who have become victims.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by Pa Mantis Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:30 am
Bubbles wrote:Welcome to ScamWarners Pa Mantis, without being pedantic, spamming and scamming are different activities.

This person’s spam messages are a “romance” scam.
Their spam is an essential part of their scam : it’s how they find their victims.

Bubbles wrote:We discourage closing down scammer's email addresses because they are kind of an anchor point for our information. The other reason shutting down email accounts doesn't work is it takes approximately 2 minutes to set up a new email account and continue the activity.

Closing their email would disrupt their communication with anyone who was currently hooked: they’d have to explain to their unwitting victims(s) why they’ve had to change their email. Also all the hundreds/thousands of spam messages they've posted on t’internet which use that email would be rendered useless, so could not be used to snare new victims.
[ replicating those hundreds/thousands of posts would take more than "2 minutes" ].

But you’re more experienced in these matters than I. If you think there is a net benefit to letting "coolbaby500" continue to use a particular email address I’ll defer to your expertise.

I posted here after being referred via 419 eater, hopefully a scambaiter will waste coolbaby’s time.

BTW you should consider adding https://www.tineye.com/ to your signature as a resource for tracing images on the internet, e.g. your "bubbles" avatar, see ... http://awesomescreenshot.com/0dbzcu0dd [click on image of screenshot to enlarge].
by Grunt Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:31 pm
wrote me on MDF
no pic of the scammer there

joy hosman
Basic
27 year old, woman from United States

To [email protected]
Opened 2013/02/27
Location Dakar, Senegal (86% likelihood)
Opened on (41.83.231.230:2087)
by Dotti Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:11 pm
@ pa mantis:

Senegalese refugee scammers like this one often start with a romance approach, but most rather quickly move to a straight advance-fee approach, making this more or less a hybrid of the two.

I am going to address the email address thing once, but we are not going to turn this thread into yet another debate about email addresses. There are plenty of discussions on the forums already, and our position, which is based on a lot of experience, is not going to change.

Closing their email would disrupt their communication with anyone who was currently hooked: they’d have to explain to their unwitting victims(s) why they’ve had to change their email.


Oh, how I wish this actually helped.
Any scammer with experience is prepared to lose their email box, and they will keep a record of the addresses of any victims with real potential. As for explaining changing their email, I can't even begin to tell you how many times we have seen the simple "I got a new email because I was hacked" or even simpler "my email wasn't working so I opened a new one" in the middle of the scam. When it's a free dating site profile that disappears, the scammer simply says, "I closed my profile because I met you." The scam keeps going without missing a beat, the victim none the wiser.

Unfortunately, the kind of person who is going to believe that some good-looking young woman is sitting in a refugee camp waiting for them to help her collect her millions is not the kind of person who is going to question that explanation and assume the address was closed for fraud.

When "Joy" approaches new targets, some of them who don't know whether it is a scam will actually make the effort to google "[email protected]." When they do that, they will find lots of things that tell them "she" is a scam.

But when someone closes that email address, and in less than 5 minutes, the scammer opens and switches to "[email protected]" or one of the tens of thousands of other possible addresses, initially there will be nothing about the new address. So the next several potential victims that come along and google "[email protected]" will NOT learn she is a scammer, and some who might have been warned will instead be pulled in.

Perhaps someday email providers will change their policies, and they will either notify contacts that the email was closed for fraud, or find a way to prevent that person from opening another address 5 minutes later. If/when that happens, we will certainly revisit our position.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
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by Grunt Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:10 am
My Dear One,
I am more than happy in your urgent reply to my mail.
How was your day?. mine was a little bit fine over here in Dakar Senegal, hoping that you too must be fine over there now. So like i told you before my name is, Miss Joy Hosman i am 23 yrs old girl, from Liberia in west Africa and presently i am residing in the refugee camp here in Dakar Senegal as a result of the civil war going on in my country.

My late father, Dr. Hosman Obafime, was a prominent successful business man and a politician under the government of, Charles Taylor, the former head of state in Liberia before the rebels attacked my house one early morning killing my mother and my father, It was only me that is alive now and i managed to make my way to near by country Senegal where i am leaving now with the help of the United Nation.

Remember i told you that I am from Liberia, but due to the war in my country, that cost the dead of my parents which made me to stay hear as a refuge... And please also remember that in a any good relationship ''Distance or Age '' dose not matters, what matters is how you care about each other , so please bear with me for the distance and age. Mean while, I would like to know more about you, your residents, your likes and dislikes, your hobbies, and please everything about you. As for me, i have a lot and very important thing to tell you in my next mail, maybe before then i will try to get our Reverend Father phone number to give it to you so that you can call me through the Reverend phone then both of us will talk to each other and hear each others voice. And bellow this mail is my pictures, i hope you will like them? and i am waiting to hear from you soonest.
From yours Joy Hosman


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Received: from [41.83.193.37]
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013
From: Joy Hosman <[email protected]>

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http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewto ... 75#p208475

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