Information on romance scams and scammers.
by DeeJay Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:58 pm
My roommate has been talking to a man that says he is in Pakistan serving our country. ive been talking to her about the chance that it may be a scam I have gotten here wheels to turn. We were able to get the AKO and the MOS but i need help..things with him just dont all add up. I also have the ASI what do i do to find out if he's real or not??
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by Dotti Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:18 am
Scammers make up AKO's, and copy specialty and skills information from the internet. so just having a soldier give you that information is NOT sufficient.

First of all, make sure the AKO ends in .mil (with nothing else.) If it ends in anything else, it's not a real AKO.

Assuming it passes that test: Your roommate needs to send him an email at his AKO (without telling him the contents of the email) and the scammer must reply to that email from his AKO address. It is important that this communication go both ways, so that you know he actually able to receive and send from the AKO address (not telling him the content is important, or he can pretend to receive it, and send an email with a forged header that looks like it came from an AKO.

If he tells her that it is not allowed, or his email isn't working, or gives any other excuse as to why they can't correspond using that address, then he is a scammer.

Pick some unusual or highly romantic phrases from his emails, and google them (in quotes) to see if they are stolen of have already been used by scammers.

In my experience most scammers will be caught in those tests alone.

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by DeeJay Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:58 am
Thank you for your response. I shall talk with her about this. She jus recently talked to him a few hours ago and we drilled him. He responded upsetly. Which I excepted. She has talked to him for an hour just now and he said that he had to sit in front of a "hotpanel" since we had drilled him on facebook accts. we found. Which made us nervous. His leave request was denied. He wanted he to pay 1-2000 grand for the leave.
by Dotti Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:05 am
You don't even need to do the AKO test. It's a guarantee he would fail it, anyway. Based on his response about the "hotpanel" (total BS) most likely he would give excuses as to how he can't use the AKO box for security reasons or something like that.

He's a scammer.

Leave is earned, not bought. It is like vacation from a regular job. If a soldier has served enough time to be eligible for leave, he can take it at a time that his superiors agree to, and it doesn't cost a penny.
If he hasn't served the time, he is not eligible for the leave. He can't buy leave he hasn't earned.

There is NEVER a fee to be paid for leave. This only exists in the imaginary world invented by African romance scammers.

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by DeeJay Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:32 am
He had stated that he just came home not too long ago and in order for him to come "home again" he would need it requested through his commander. she emailed him he emailed back. He said she "got checked out" somehow. and stated things to her that were never mentioned. He said she had to be cleared (not the right wording). In order for him to come home she would have to talk to commander and send $ for leave papers. then he could come home and while he was here monies would have to go for his absence to pay for a replacement.
by Dotti Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:52 am
Again--not happening.

In the real US military, if a soldier has already used his leave, unless he is sent home for medical reasons, he's not going anywhere, period. It doesn't matter if he if he just met the woman of his dreams and wants to marry he--he isn't leaving until he qualifies for leave. There is no scenario in which he can pay a replacement officer fee or anything else in order to go.

In the real US military, the chain of command is the basis of everything. The soldier is part of that chain of command. If he needs ANYTHING, he applies for it HIMSELF through his chain of command. Someone from outside is not part of that chain of command and they CANNOT request anything for the soldier, ever.
Even a legal wife cannot make requests for leave for a soldier. And as far as the US military goes, a woman that the soldier met online is nothing more than a pen pal. She would not even be entitled to information about the soldier.

All of these things--writing to the commanding officer, replacement officer fees, etc--exist only in the imaginary military of the African scammer.

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by will12 Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:13 pm
I am too in this boat, I meet the famous Jordan walter he never ask me for anything but I still have emy doubts cause I said It is too good to be treue well I have this feelings that I don't know what to do cause he never ask for anything and before I found this site I told him about the scam and he was mad even said don't let anyone fool you ,well I just want to post the email that we chat and hope get help [email protected] I saw pictures that it says fake but don't know anything about this it is my first time been in a dating site.
by Gateway Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:33 am
Welcome Will12 to Scamwarners.. :D

Of course the scammer is going to tell you that !

He is only interested in your money and relieving you of it.

Yes it would be a great help if you post the email and the headers here, remember to remove your email address

If you wish you can email me at
[email protected]

How to get E-Mail Headers
http://www.isipp.com/resources/email-headers/
by began steele Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:07 am
I was amazed when I saw the avatar of [email protected] . I am dealing with this scammer already. However the post isn't up and ready yet. He is prolific and everywhere,
He is here too !
https://www.facebook.com/jordan.walter.391
Sergent at Chief of Army Staff of the Bangladesh Army
April 2006 to present
Studied at Bolsa Grande High School
Past: United States Army Field Artillery School and Army Public School
Lives in Usa, Arusha, Tanzania :=)
From Home, West Virginia

He admits he is living in Africa.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by TerranceBoyce Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:08 am
Read what the army says.

http://www.army.mil/article/67457/

"We have even seen instances where the Soldier was killed in action and the crooks have used that hero's identity to perpetrate their twisted scam," said CID Special Agent Russel Graves, who has been fielding the hundreds of calls and emails from victims for months.


"We've even seen instances where the perpetrators are asking the victims for money to "purchase leave papers" from the Army, help pay for medical expenses from combat wounds received, or help pay for their flight home so they can leave the war zone," said Grey.

These scams are outright theft and are a grave misrepresentation of the U.S. Army and the tremendous amount of support programs and mechanisms that exist for Soldiers today, especially those serving overseas, said Grey.


He is low life scum abusing and disrespecting the US military. They're not Americans and what they're doing is an insult to every serving soldier.

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