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by Bratek79 Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:48 pm
Hello everyone,

I want to warn about a scammer named Andrew Grey Jefferson. Fortunately I didn't give him any money because my alarm bells rang really loud after he got lost in his own lies.
Am not saying it didn;t hurt to find out nothing of the beautiful things he wrote is actually true am just happy was aware enough to listen to my guts and he felt to secure to even assume I could be suspecting anything. So I managed to get more informations from him in the end phase.

Here are some informations about him (or the persona he claims to be)


Name: Andrew Grey Jefferson ( says he prefers to be called only with Andrew Grey - his mums maiden name because his father was not the best one)
Mail addresses: [email protected], [email protected]
Living in Derby, UK
Age:35 (Born June, 8th)
Mum: Emily Grey Jefferson
Phone number: 0044 7024061458
Aunt (who was raising him after his parents died): Rebecca Graham (living Derby UK) Age 74
Phone Number to his aunt: 00447937455673
Occupation: Structural Engineer
as we meet he named Titanium Construction as the company he works for, but got released because he had sex (after he got drunk) with his bosses (Mr. Smith) wife and he told Mr. Smith this in the office and they had a fight.
So now he is trying his luck as a free lancer and with some lucky coincidence he got a contract to finish a mansion in Benin Africa. (actually could choose between Benin and Malaysia) so he chose Benin because it was suppose to end within 3 weeks and the one in Malaysia was to go for 2-3 months.
First money trouble appeared before he even left " for his job" as tha bank gave him lesser loan than he applied for so he had to use his savings.
Next was customs, where his equipment was stuck and had to pay to get it realeased from customs.
Than after just few days because of heavy rain the water got into the concrete mixer and so he nedded to rent or better buy another one to finish his contract.Of course because of the lower loan he had not enough money so he asked for a loan - at first whole amount 1850 pounds but when he realised I was no gold mine anything I could do would be enough .

The money should have been transfered with Western Union or Money Gramm to
Ogunsola Olubowale
Badagry. Lagos, Nigeria

Here one of the first mails he sent (next will follow as he often changed his IP no. and I have like over 30 mails saved so I will post them asap)


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Good Mornin......

How was your evening ? Thanks for taking your time to write me ,i want to tell you about myself as I promised to ,I think its one needed step of getting to know each other well... here is some more about me ,hopefully it may fill in some blanks about me. I spent the ealy part of my life growing up in the states because mum is American,I attended the first 2 1/2 years of school there before moving to U.K. (dad got a job transfer) completed the rest of my schooling. I have been brought up in a church background from when i was living in Maryland -Methodist/Presbyterian, then when we shifted to U.K. we changed to Baptist church . I believe in God.
I was born into a family of three,that includes my mom,my dad and me as the only child and Son!!My mom is from Baltimore in US while my father is from LONDON in U.K. My dad is late , we lost him to lungs cancer decades ago, and mum also couldn't stand the loneliness just after 6years , leaving just me (I MiSS HER). I have been single for a while after experiencing an heart break from my ex-woman, we parted ways after I proposed to her and planning marriage but she wasn't ready (as she felt she deserved more). so yes i now have a strong back bone and am able to let things go and move on, despite the effect of the hurt that befell me from my past relationship, i have coupled myself together and ready to give love another chance to swallow me up.I did try to make it work with a lady I met not long ago but she came out plain ,she never want to settle down , she prefer to be independent.
I'm new to this online dating but will love to ask you some questions,
* What ur experiences are from this online dating?
* Have u met anyone before?
i like trying new things as there is lots to see, I do believe in fate as everyone is in this world for a reason even how great or small that reason may be. I am more than ready now to get to know someone for the RIGHT REASONS and show with respect and kindness why i want to be with them. i hope that i haven't bored you too much (with tales that took me forever to type down .....LOL) as i am still interested in wanting to know more about you. I hope we live up to each other's dream. My heart is fragile and wont want to be hurt once again, i believe love is everywhere and i don't discriminate, i will go for a distinctive woman who meets the criteria of my search,i still have some questions for you but that will be till i hear from you,hopefully you will talk back to me

Have a lovely day
Andrew


As I did a really good research to check if am not suspecting a really unfortunate but innocent man am sure he really is a scammer and that is why I want to put as much data here as possible. I will also put some pictures he sent to me.
greetings
Bratek79
Last edited by Bratek79 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:42 am, edited 1 time in total.
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by Bratek79 Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:37 am
and here come further mails. I just hope that it will minimize the amount of his future victimes...

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From: "andrew Grey " <[email protected]>
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Thanks for the message, hope you are slept well day, I will like to share my interests with you, i think it also helps to get to know each other better. My interests are : travelling, museums, the great outdoors-camping, horseback-riding, movies, restaurants, antique shopping, wine-tasting, history, psychology, animals, most anything that I haven't seen or tried once.! I am somewhat of a dreamer believing that romance and love is what life is all about. I am a kind and somewhat sometimes over generous person with a heart of gold. I am intelligent and passionate. I love life and try to live it in such a way that each day has a new meaning. I am romantic by nature and loving by soul. I love to help others and love the laughter of children. I believe in love and all that comes with being in love. I am not your usual man in thinking that love is how many women you sleep with, but believe that being loyal and loving to one man is what makes love special. I believe intimacy is special in both forms. So many make the mistake of thinking intimacy is the simple act of sex. But to me intimacy is the touching of two souls, the beating of two hearts as one. Romance is a lost art these days and a lot of people often forget that the simple things in life are often the sweetest. How special it can be when two in love can simply swap a kiss, or share a walk hand in hand under a full moon. I do not pretend to be the answer to lost love, or the answer to everlasting romance but l love with my heart and feel with my soul. I know what it means to love and to have lost. But without the feeling of pain we can never become the wiser. I truly believe that for each of us we have someone out there ready to win our hearts. But without the risk their cannot be victory. comfort is my watch word and i comfortable in my own skin . i take pretty care of my self and i will do the same for my woman.So in having expressed my inner thoughts and desires l will now end this short letter. I will be looking forward to hear from you and have a blessfil day. Warm wishesAndySent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
by Bratek79 Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:42 am
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From: andrew Grey <[email protected]>
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Subject: Good Morning sweetie
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:31:25 +0100
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Good Morning darling, hope you had a nice night ? I am happy with the honesty you have exhibited in telling me about yourself.There are some things about us which we need to know , some of the simple things about each other for example , What sort of food do you like? and what is your favorites? i love eating healthy but very tasty and i can cook quite well. My favorite food is SUSHI.do you also like it, and i also like sandwich, it's very cool to keep the morning going. I would hate to cook something you don't like or have allergies to? no issues for me on that front.
How tall are you? I am 180cm tall, Do you drink coffee,tea or something else? Me i go nuts for a good coffee or a cup of tea, during my university days, my friends call me a coffee freak. I love a lot of things both armchair and active. I take drinks but not compulsorily pepsi or coke, i love flavoured water . Do you drink alcohol? if so what? I'm pretty well behaved on that front as a social drinker, i love to take champagne especially MOET & CHANDON as my favorite, or sometimes a bit of johnny walker.
Do you like a glass of wine with a meal? I enjoy a glass of wine with meal, , a candle light diner on a table for two (ME AND YOU HOPEFULLY). Do you like cuddling and romance? i love them to the core. Please take some time to answer these sort of questions, it would mean a lot to me, and ask some yourself, i will be looking forward to hear from you. As regards to getting to meet each other well it would be nice to meet each other and be your date for the weekend but I don't want to keep your hopes high that I'll make it , I will talk to you later regarding that issue

take care till i read from you and know that I think of you all time

Warm hugs and kisses
Your andrew



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Good Morning my angel

To love someone is nothing, to be loved by someone is something, to love someone who loves you is everything. Looking here for everything of my life, I was so cool to learn more about you.. I love soft music and the company of the one my feelings go right with (TURNING OUT TO
BE YOU)!!! So i am really looking forward to that ONE day that i will personaly meet you, i will also like to go to the lakes where we can relax or go for walks, swim (if it is not too cold) we can explore some of the places , and spend time soaking in each others company.

I believe being supportive would be good for us as a couple to build a life that we want to share But when you are ready it is not something you have to rush out and do right away if you do not want to. I will support and encourage you to become all that you can do and be, to fulfill your potential the way God created you. I will walk by your side and listen to your words and be supportive no matter what life may bring for as long as i have breath in this body of mine. I am a couch potato some times it depends on the company if it means snuggling up next to you as my lover then absolutely! But i am not a
couch potato in the lazy sense of the word.


It is funny, part of me is a very excited, I have known of people who met their special half's online and i hope mine
does not pass me by. That is why i have really tried to be
transparent, with nothing to hide from you.As each day draws near i find myself falling more for you and
although it is not long we met each other , it seems like an
eternity.You make me feel loved, you make me feel safe, but more importantly, you make me feel wanted. Something that I hadn't felt in a very long time. . How can just one person give me so much hope for a future I have always dreamed of? You have opened my heart and awakened my soul. But as you know fate gives good things to those who wait and trust , never let a moment of doubt creep in.

Please try to take good care of yourself darling
We talk later

With all my love
Andrew
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Hello Sugar

My darling ...., talkingto you this morning was really wonderful , I slept thinking about you and it feels so sweet falling in love with you .... I understand that we have not been together for very long, but I want to express to you the love that I feel. My life has been a hellish nightmare, one that haunts and never leaves me to peace. The day that I realized that I found you, my bad dreams ceased.
What I feel for you is that awesome love that poets write about and that we mere mortals only dream of experiencing. It is the love that is considered unconditional and undying; so great that my heart seems to burst with the joy of it. I cannot fathom living my life without you - I long to wake up looking into your sweet face to look ; I would not be living, just existing; sleeping would be impossible without you to dream of.

You have made my life worth every moment, every breath. I know that we are still fresh, and as such are thought not to feel such intense emotion, but what I feel is true and blinding in it's power. You have swept me away and proved to me that magic exists - in you.
The distance between us is quite much now, but I believe and have faith that what we feel for each other will overcome and outlast the distance. My heart is yours, my soul in your keeping. Please treasure it and know for sure that someday soon , you'll be holding my tight in your arms

Have a nice day my angel
Warm hugs and kisses
Andrew


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From: andrew Grey <[email protected]>
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Good morning my angel

How was your night dear? i hope you had enough rest at night , i am up so early and i can only think of one thing, one person and that's you ....In life, we receive a wonderful opportunity, and that is to love. Love comes in many forms. You love people in different ways and for different reasons, depending upon how they have touched your life. Love is a very powerful word and can describe a multitude of feelings
, but its main context carries the same meaning......,I want to tell you that the love I have for you is undying. It is a love that is strong and enduring and will stand the test of time. I truly feel blessed that you have become a part of my life and I cannot wait for the day that we can join our lives together. I want to lie next to you at night and fall asleep in your arms, only to wake to your beautiful smile. I want to share in your joys and sorrows. I want to be your everything. You are everything to me.When I am with you, the world and its troubles are nothing to me but a blur. When I have a bad day I know you are there for me. Just the same for you if you are having a bad day; I'll do anything to make you smile, to kiss your soft, sweet lips - to look into those beautiful eyes that sparkle with happiness. In those eyes I'll see a fire of passion and safeness. I was about to give up all hope on love until I laid eyes on you.
You are everything I do. You see and bring out the best in me. You are the one I want to share everything with - my thoughts, hopes and dreams. Thinking of you makes my heart feel full. You are such a source of inspiration for me. I will forever be indebted to you for all you have brought to my life.No other woman or anyone will mean as much as you do. So, in closing, I leave you with this;to repay you for the beautiful feeling you've awoken in me , I promise you my heart and all the love in it for the rest of my life....
Love always.....,
Your Man Andy




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Hello my angel

I'm up so early today and I don't feel too good this morning , don't know why but remembering that you are there for me, all my worries dissappear and your name comes ringing bell in my head
, you know From the very first moment I saw you I knew that we were destined to be together. It has been so long, since a woman has captured my attention so fully or made my heart beat the way it did, that cool day when I stormed over that profile of yours. Your smile lights up my entire spirit. Your laughter fills me with joy, and your mere presence will warm any room. I have no doubt you are the woman Heaven has made especially for me.
Thank you for the comfortable conversations and for being mine . Most importantly, thank you for sharing your love and trusting me . No matter how slowly or at what distance our courtship developes, vowing to be there for you at all time, was the easiest decision I could have ever made.
Each day that passes makes our feelings for each other grow stronger. Although I know it’s hard for us to be apart, I know there is nothing that can keep us apart forever. Our desires will continue to stretch across any distance, over every mountain and ocean between us. Nothing can stand between us, and nothing will stop me from meeting you.
You are my future and nothing can ever keep us from our destiny. I miss you more every day. I am here with open arms where you will some day finally arrive... right where you belong
Hope you keep smilling after reading this and it will be nice to read from you too.
Hugs and kisses
Your man
Andy
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Good Morning honey

Having your love, has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. Everyday, when I awake from a dream of us together, I thank my stars I found you! What have I ever done to deserve such a loving, caring, wonderful woman? Everything about you is just so perfect. I know you are not without imperfections, but in my eyes, everything you do just seems so flawless. The way you express your love to me is so awesome!! I feel so loved! I need only to think of you to have all my troubles melt away. I want to spend my whole life with you, loving you and receiving your love in return. I long to hold you and feel your sweet caress. The miles that lie between us will soon disappear, and we will have each other always. All I know is that I love you, and that will never change. My sweet, Thank you for loving me the way you do. I couldn't ask for more in a woman....so many times I thought life is so unfair, we are so far apart yet so close , I wonder why but I know that this Reasons fate knows, but there will never be a reason to stop loving you and to see that we finally make our dreams of being togethe come through. You really know how much I love you and care for you Even though we're apart, this will not be the end of our commitment. You are the best thing that ever happened in my whole, entire.
Just always remember that I really treasure your love

Unconditionally Yours,
Andrew



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Good Morning Darling

Last night, in my dreams, I saw you on the pier. The wind was blowing through your hair, and your eyes held the fading sunlight. I was speechless as I watched you leaning against the rail. You are beautiful, I thought as I saw you, a vision that I could never find in anyone else. I slowly began to walk toward you, and when you finally turned to me, I noticed that others had been watching you as well. "Do you know her?" they asked me in jealous whispers, and as you smiled at me I simply answered with the truth, "Better than I know myself.I can't wait to see this come through darling... Wishing you a great day , stay warm my baby bear , I will let you know as soon as am home .

With all my love
Your Andy
by Grunt Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:14 am
thanks for posting this scammer

in one early message you posted
it says
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

MTN serves West Africa, preferentially Nigeria

I bet this is a West African student who studies in Malaysia too
found out that he got booted off a Chinese website as suspected scammer

pity that hotmail does not send IPs anymore
microsoft changed its company policy with the beginning of this year
and follows gmail and aol for hiding IPs
by Grunt Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:19 am
he's got profiles on many sites

the most common ones
netlog & overfifties

pupplegrey
male - 34 years, Anonymous Proxy :mrgreen:
Name andrew jefferson
Date of birth 08/06/1978
Location Anonymous Proxy
Native language English
Profession engineer (Other)

Image

same pic here
pupplegrey
Age: 33
Gender: Man
Looking for: Woman
Location: melbourne, Australia :beer:
Pictures loaded: 1 picture
About myself: I am a guy that is ready to open the door to his heart for a real woman...I dont have a pet,i live alone and i like soccer...I wont say much right now..I just want to try this out and see
by Bratek79 Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:25 am
And here some pics he used

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by Bratek79 Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:28 am
Hi,
yes this is exactly the same one...got the pictures you posted also so there is no doubt about it. I met him on Badoo, where he had at least 2 accounts open at the same time.

Glad I can be of help and hope it will make his scammer life harder


Grunt wrote:he's got profiles on many sites

the most common ones
netlog & overfifties

pupplegrey
male - 34 years, Anonymous Proxy :mrgreen:
Name andrew jefferson
Date of birth 08/06/1978
Location Anonymous Proxy
Native language English
Profession engineer (Other)

Image

same pic here
pupplegrey
Age: 33
Gender: Man
Looking for: Woman
Location: melbourne, Australia :beer:
Pictures loaded: 1 picture
About myself: I am a guy that is ready to open the door to his heart for a real woman...I dont have a pet,i live alone and i like soccer...I wont say much right now..I just want to try this out and see
by Cinderella80 Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:33 am
Hello,
Thank you for your message. This guy is using the pics from Brian Peeler, a famous personal trainer and actor in Hollywood. Check it out on FB. I already contacted him to inform about, maybe you should do that too. Sorry for all the ladies, he confessed his love, including me. His story was so detailed and he seems so sincere :? . All the mail-letter are copied from "love-letters" or equal sites. Badoo should also be in charge to cancel his profile.
cheers
by Dotti Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:33 am
Welcome Cinderella,

I am glad that you discovered the truth and hope that you did not lose any money to this scammer.

One small point, though--you have already let the real person know that his photos are being used. We do not recommend that others contact him as well.

Many times the real person does not want unsolicited contact from people who were scammed using their photos, and they may even consider it an invasion of their privacy. The scammers have saved their photos to their own computers or drives, so the the person in the photos is not able to stop them from using them again. Many have been contacted by dozens, sometimes hundreds, of women, and report that the situation is very uncomfortable for them, especially since they are powerless to fix it.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Bratek79 Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:43 am
Hello Cindirella,

am sorry for us all too....just hope you didn't lose any money for that skunkbag and hope we will make his scamms as hard to do as possible.
And I think one thing needs to be said loud and clear, that it is no shame to trust people and to look for love, it is the scammer who sould be ashamed for doing things like this.

Best wishes



Cinderella80 wrote:Hello,
Thank you for your message. This guy is using the pics from Brian Peeler, a famous personal trainer and actor in Hollywood. Check it out on FB. I already contacted him to inform about, maybe you should do that too. Sorry for all the ladies, he confessed his love, including me. His story was so detailed and he seems so sincere :? . All the mail-letter are copied from "love-letters" or equal sites. Badoo should also be in charge to cancel his profile.
cheers
by Bratek79 Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:37 pm
and Mr. Jefferson is out there again on BADOO, this time living in Berlin. Is using his hotmail account - the one that I posted here earlier.
Have sent a message to Badoo - Admin to take care of it.
by Bratek79 Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:04 am
Am trying to report at least this one wherever I find him
apart from badoo, netlog and overfifties he is to be found on following sites:

http://datingmeonline.com/member_pupplegrey.html
http://www.fdatings.com/member_pupplegrey.html
http://freedateboom.com/member_pupplegrey.html
http://www.waydate.com/member_pupplegrey.html
http://en.netlog.com/pupplegrey
http://www.loveoversea.com/profile.php?u=28984


Same old story...so please be carefull if you meet any of these.
by JulySV Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:06 pm
Hi all,
I need to report that this person is actively hunting for new victims. I am new one.... i lost money.... was very stupid... good things I found this website and will not let "him" to defraud me again.

He is using name Andrew Wright Grey, or just Andrew Wright
e:mail address this person is using: [email protected]
I was mostly in chat with him in Yahoo Messenger: drewgrey66

I can provide more info if needed. I have few other photos besides those I see on your site.

:(

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