Information on romance scams and scammers.
by deniz Fri May 28, 2010 6:17 am
(Mod note: I have combined both threads regarding this scammer, as they contain two different letters written by the same scammer, and together help to give a clearer profile - Dotti)

Please help me is he a scam?
Kiss. Kiss
> Kiss. :-)) Kiss. :-)) Kiss
>Kiss. Kiss
> Kiss. Love Kiss
> Kiss. Kiss
> Kiss. Kiss
> Kiss. Kiss
> Kiss. Kiss
> Kiss
>Good morning my darling, hope your night was wonderful,i must say thanks for your call because i couldn't sleep all night am so worried (my name) i love you truly and i want to be with you.
I know there are miles between us,I never stop thinking of you, you have brought a change into my life and my heart is forever yours.I can never forget you, or keep thoughts of you out of my mind. I think of how caring you will be whenever i imagine you saying all those caring words you sent through mails and i want you to know that i like everything I've read about you so far and i truly think we will be compatible. most of my expectations & aspirations is to archive my goals in life and this project that am working on at the moment.
Thoughts of you warm my heart. You complete me, you are everything my heart desire.Many years and many miles have kept us apart for so long it is hard to believe we have found each other . Now we must make time disappear and miles grow shorter because i believe we have so many things in common and we will match perfectly if we trust each other. This feelings started not quite long and will never end.(my name) i think it's our turn ... it's our turn to make each other happy. We have grown to understand each other rapidly; let's spend the rest of our lives together. Though we might not understand each other at first but my feelings will be true, and know that i will always be by your side no matter what.
I understand that there are many things to be worked out, so many things on your mind, I just don't want to waste any valuable time we have left all this years alone. I think of you all day and night sweetie and i know this more than just been in love,You are so far away, yet so close in my heart. My heart and my body yearns for you. I feel something unconditional for you. I accept all that you are and am ready to give all that is mine, For the first time I have purpose. For the first time I have found someone real.I want to read about your zodiac sign so please let me know your birth month and date. You excite me so much; I live for each day I can come there and spend time mailing you. I have dreams of you and awake aroused. Today I thought of you, when i looked at your picture you sent me i imagined myself with you and it was so vivid ... I will always be yours as long as you want. I am truly lucky indeed to have found such a dear, sweet, loving person as you, a woman, and not just any woman, but such a beautiful, sensual woman who arouses such unbridled passion in me - thoughts of total passion without reserve in giving myself to you completely. I remain yours forever.Even though we are apart, my heart will always be with you. As long as we have hope, tomorrow awaits. As long as we are still committed each day is never a waste and the waiting will prove to be worthwhile.I don't think i would ever feel that way so please don't disappoint me .Lots of love and kisses ... Hope to read from you soon because i have to go to the doctors place to get some medications because am feeling a little down.please lets chat my love
lots of love and kisses..

Marcus

I`m not sure...
Thanks
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by deniz Fri May 28, 2010 6:53 am
Please help me and read carefully...............

Hello Beautiful,
Here's a little more about me.....i would love you to read this carefully
I would like to start off saying that I am a CLASSY MAN, I am ONLY looking for true serious relationships...A lasting open partnership with a mutual beneficial ADULT arrangement that's stable, reliable and above all HONEST. I am also mature, intelligent and spiritual, as well as fit, sweet and very playful.
I am a widower with a 4 year old daughter..she's all i got cos she makes me happy so as i make it up to her and make sure she never get sad in anyway when i see my Mrs right so no matter how far or near she is..am ready to relocate at any point in time....

Am actually from Roosevelt...NY....so tell me have you even been there....?its really nice there though...well am actually here in London for a sight seeing due to my kinda work and i will be going back when am done cos i have been here since the 3rd of January now and my next contract will actually be in Miami FL...and i really like it here in London though and it looks so interesting to me and as have always wanted to relocate to my right woman no matter how far she is...if it really works out with us...i can come buy a house and stay with my my family overthere in Germany....
Well i got introduced to the site by a friend i met here so i had to make a trial over the site and i found you...

Am self employed and work alone like i said in my other mail..i really like my job cos it takes me almost everywhere in the world cos it has to do with buying and selling ..market has been bad lately though but i survive alongside doing the autosales thing....

I am also honest,reliable, respectful and available. I hope you have these qualities as well.. I am very unique so no liars, read further. I LOVE music, reading, traveling,and even camping...too much to put all here. I truly enjoy the finer things in life and also live life to the FULLEST!!! I love to laugh, am very easy to get along with and have a lot to say. I can't remember ever having a boring day in my life. If this is what you seek then please keep reading. I am extremely sensual, romantic and I have a big heart. I use to be quite insatiable, but now have learned that there is more to life than SEX. When you have a balance of what life has to offer, then you can achieve BLISS. This is where I reside and would like to share it with someone who deserves this level of comfort and pleasure. Do you desire this as well? I am widower and have been that way for sometime now.I am secure, stable and independent, yet still youthful, creative and exciting. I love to play and have FUN. Life is too short to complain about it. It's for living and learning, enjoying and exploring, experiencing and evolving.
I live, work and play HARD. I seek discretion, trust and maturity. So if you are safe, sane, sober and secure, then we have a great start. Especially if you love to TRAVEL, seek adventures and desire great companionship. I am not a moody psycho that's going to turn exorcist on you either. I am quite safe, sane and sober myself. I am very discreet, refined and not embarrassing. I do not do drugs or drunks and am disease free. I prefer to live a healthy lifestyle.
so now your turn..tell me about you..

Hoping to hear from you real soon...

Marcus.

falling for you..

Thanks for your help!
by David Jansen Fri May 28, 2010 7:22 am
Welcome here deniz.

It's good that you found us before it's too late. Reading through this post, and your other post in the romance scam section, i believe you are writing to a scammer. When i do a bit of research and google parts of his email to you, i get several hits. This bit here:
I would like to start off saying that I am a CLASSY MAN, I am ONLY looking for true serious relationships...A lasting open partnership with a mutual beneficial ADULT arrangement that's stable, reliable and above all HONEST

can also be found on another scam warning site: http://anti-scam.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1257969815
I would like to start off saying that I am a CLASSY MAN, I am ONLY looking for true serious relationships...A lasting open partnership with a mutual beneficial ADULT arrangement that's stable, reliable and above all HONEST. I am also mature, intelligent and spiritual, as well as fit, sweet and very playful. I am also honest, reliable, respectful and available. I hope you have these qualities as well. I am very unique so no liars, read further. I LOVE music, reading, traveling,and even camping...too much to put all here. I truly enjoy the finer things in life and also live life to the FULLEST!!!

And this is what i found on a German dating site (scammer claims to be from Texas) http://germanfriendfinder.com/view/2860797_87510.html
So where do I start from, I'm a very optimistic person naturally, I like to smile and have a good time. I try my best not to hurt anyone but if you push me to the wall, you know what they say about how much one can swallow and Tolerate.I like good music and I can be considered a scholar in a lot of ways. So thank you for your time, interest and patience. I have written an extensive profile to save us time. After viewing my photo and reading all of my profile you will know if you should contact me further and how to do it properly to get my response. I would like to start off saying that I am a CLASSY MAN, I am ONLY looking for true serious relationships...A lasting open partnership with a mutual beneficial ADULT arrangement that's stable, reliable and above all HONEST.I am also mature, intelligent and spiritual.I enjoy trying new things Among other things, I love playing golf and love watching soccer, I love to travel. Especially to the beaches of the Caribbean.I am a genuinely easy going, down to earth MAN looking for someone to share my life.

I'm sure that if i search for more parts of the scammers email, i will find much more hits. Please read this topic here: http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=25 and you'll find more clues that your writing with a scammer. I'm sorry to bring you this bad news. Could you post the full headers of one of his emails here? with that we can possibly locate the scammer. If you don't know how to get the headers, just ask.

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by Chris Fuller Fri May 28, 2010 7:31 am
Hello deniz,

As David says, yes it is a scam.

Many of the sentences in that email also appear in a female dating profile:

http://datememateme.com/brendmarts

I would like to start off saying that I am a CLASSY YOUNG lady am ONLY looking for A REAL MAN...A lasting open friendship with a mutual beneficial MATURED arrangement that's stable, reliable and above all HONEST. I am mature, intelligent and spiritual, as well as fit, sweet and very playful. I am also honest, reliable, respectful and available. I hope you have these qualities as well.I am very unique and open-minded,so no liars, read further. I LOVE music, reading, traveling,and even camping...to much to put all here. I truly enjoy the finer things in life and also live life to the FULLEST!!!


There are also other clues in the letter:

1. He is a widower with a four year old daughter. Of course genuine men can be widowers with young children, but scammers particularly like to pretend to be the lone parent of a child. They hope that this will convince you that they are a warm nurturing person, and also this invented child could come in very useful later, if the scammer wants to pretend that an accident has happened to her, and he needs money to pay hospital bills and save her life.

2. His job takes him 'all over the world'. This gives him the excuse to pretend to travel to wherever he is really located (probably in West Africa), so that when misfortune strikes (as it will), he can ask for money to be sent there.

3. The tone of the email is over-enthusiastic: over-enthusiastic in presenting himself as the ideal partner, and over-enthusiastic in being interested in you - at such an early stage of communication. Again, of course there are very enthusiastic people in the world, but combined with the other clues above, this over-enthusiasm is suspect.

4. There are also some grammar and spelling mistakes that you would not expect an American man to make. Some of the grammar is typical of a West African writer. This may not be noticable to someone who is not a native English speaker, but it is noticeable to myself.

I'm glad you were suspicious about this email.
by Dotti Fri May 28, 2010 8:56 am
As Chris already said, it has all the characteristics of a romance scam, even from this one letter. The two together remove any possible doubt.

Rather than copy a whole poem or love letter, this person merely copied lines from assorted love letters and poems (often from lovingyou.com or similar sites) and mixed them with his own writing. The result is a writing style that is abnormal, alternating between good and bad, because the copied lines are in correct English, and his own writing is atrocious, and contains typical mistakes of an African writer (though I imagine he claims to be from the US or UK).


Since I see from the 2nd letter you posted that he claims to be from UK, I will hazard a guess that if he gave you a phone number, it starts with 44-70? Those numbers are redirect numbers--so the call will appear to be going to UK, while it is actually being rerouted to his cellphone, most likely in Africa or Malaysia (where several African romance scammers are currently located).

Could you please post more information about this scammer, including his email, any phone numbers he has given you, and his early emails? Those will help to prevent others becoming victim.

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by deniz Fri May 28, 2010 1:32 pm
Thanks for your help.
Of course he is at the moment in Westafrica (Nigeria/Lagos) for business. The whole name he uses is "Marcus Green".
He had 2 email-adresses: [email protected]
and [email protected]
The phone-number he uses is (of course) a nigerian-number: 02347065455558.
The mail where he told that he came from the US is one of the first, before this we were chatting on a dating-site. But here are some others:

Hello princess,
How has your day been going? I hope it was great, because thoughts of you made mine perfect. The real reason I'm writing this letter to you is because I am starting to fall for you, and it is driving me crazy, because I can't seem to tell you how I really feel. I need to know where I stand in your heart and if it could ever be more than what we are now because I'm starting to develop strong feelings towards you, and I don't know why especially when I haven't met you in person and barely know what you are really like in person.
I like your eyes, your smile, your hair, your body, and it drives me off the wall. **********When I saw your mail this morning my heart skipped a beat********. I want you to know, I can be myself when I am with you. You make me feel like I have not felt in a long time. I feel like I can tell you anything, I love everything about you, to be totally honest you do something to me that no other has, I just want you to know what I feel for you is that awesome sudden feeling of love that poets write about and that we mere mortals only dream of experiencing. It is the love that is considered unconditional and undying; so great that my heart seems to burst with the joy of it. I don't care about sounding forward or anything anymore **Honey***....I don't know how you do it but everytime I thought about you today I found myself smiling, Words cannot describe what goes through my mind when I think of you! It just boggles me how someone I barely know could feel so wonderful to be with. I wont say bye for now just hope to talk to you later:)
Falling for you, less i forget i want you to send me the picture of me ok

Marcus

or

Hello (my name),
You are like a dream I never thought would ever come true for me. When I hear your voice I start to smile with glee. My eyes shine with glee when I know you are thinking of me. You are so special to me; I pray that we will finally meet one another very soon. I haven't ever talked to anyone so like you before. You make me feel special like never before. So far, the things that you are doing shows me that you are such a caring person who would love me forever till the end of time. I just want to be loved and have someone to love back the way I've always wanted. I want to find my best friend, my soul mate, my lover and my Queen. I feel as if you may just be the one I am looking for and have been searching for all my life. These are the feelings I am having for you as of this moment.
I love you so much, I'm just here thinking about you, like I always do. I hope you're as happy as me. The thought of you in my arms right now sounds so good to me. I just want you to know how much I love you.
Ever since the first time we chatted, I've been missing you every second of my life. I knew I found someone special. I can't wait until I have the chance to hold you in my arms. You're the most wonderful woman I have ever met. I know it's kinda frustrating to talk via the computer sometimes, I just want you to remember I long for nothing but to keep you happy. You're always in my thoughts and in my heart. I just wanted to do something simple to say I love you and to put that smile I love so much, on your face.
I still don't know what I did to be so lucky to have you in my life, my dream come true... I am so thankful though. In this short time that we've been together, we have grown so much and I can't wait to see what the future holds for us. I love you, (my name), with all my heart and soul, always and forever! Please i want to beg you to stop thinking you english is not good i can understand every bit of word you write, what you should be thinking is us because now that we've come this far nothing and i mean nothing can stop us now okay. I want to tell you that you are the best thing in my life right now so i believe its my business if am thinking of you too much. I have to say that your looks is so tempting and adorable, Every time i think your wonderful picture i want to hold you so tight and never let you go because you are heaven sent from above by Almighty God.

Katie sends her greeting to you perhaps she is happy i met you and i swear to you never to let you down in times of difficulties and stormy weather. Baby i am in love that is unending with nobody but you.
I will talk to you later tonight okay and i hope you have a nice day sweetie

Your Sweetest love
Marcus
by GomerPyle Fri May 28, 2010 2:22 pm
It is the love that is considered unconditional and undying; so great that my heart seems to burst with the joy of it. I don't care about sounding forward or anything anymore


Searching on that portion of his mail leads to scammers mentioned here

http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewto ... 3&p=142731

http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/male_scamm ... .shtml?p=3

http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewto ... 3&p=142734

It could be the same one, or one who is copying scripts used by other scammers.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by deniz Fri May 28, 2010 6:45 pm
I retraced the IP-adress and I have to say it is really a server in Sunnyvale/California.
I`m still in contact with him and I didn´t ask where he lives in the US.
by Dotti Fri May 28, 2010 10:10 pm
When an IP address traces to Sunnyvale then the real IP address has been hidden. Sunnyvale is Yahoo's headquarters. That means that the email is showing yahoo's location, not his. Often, but not always, when you see the sunnyvale location, you will see NNFMP somewhere in the headers, which means that a special mass-mailing protocol was used.

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by David Jansen Sat May 29, 2010 5:27 am
Deniz, if you are still in contact with this scammer, then i advice you to stop writing to him and delete every incoming email from him. You said he's also writing with a hotmail account. Could you post the headers of the emails send from that account here? It's possible we can trace him then.

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by deniz Sat May 29, 2010 9:07 am
Hello,
sorry he used his hotmail not for sending emails, he used it only one or two times at the beginning for chatting.
by deniz Sat May 29, 2010 9:54 am
But he had forgotten to hide his IP-Adress at the first mail he sent.
Little about me?
Von: Marcus Green ([email protected])
Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. April 2010 15:27:46
An: me
The IP: 41.155.28.41 Lagos/Nigeria
by The Enchantress Sat May 29, 2010 11:26 am
Thank You for posting this information deniz.

It will alert and same others from being scammed. Well Done :=)

I agree with DavId's advice earlier - please cease all contact with this scammer.

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by deniz Sun May 30, 2010 10:00 am
Thank you very much for your help. For me it is too late and this will never happen to me again.
I have found a new profile on the same single-site. I think it is the same scammer, because it is the same story, except that his daughter was alive before. I try to contact him, because I can do the same as scammers do. I use another profile with another name.....lol..... Now his name is "Marcus Winston". I will post more, if I get an E-mail for retrace the IP.

My name is Marcus, I'm 39 yrs old. I am in the business of auto sales marketing and auctions. What I do is look for rare and expensive models of cars for special customers who request them specifically or who are collectors, I guess you can call me a car sales man...lol. I love what I do because it takes me places, maybe because I own it, but all the time, no matter where I am in the world, I'm always in a hurry to get home to my house and watch T.V or just lay down and relax or swim in my pool. I used to be married a while back,I had a daughter, but I lost them both in a car crash about 4years ago and since then my life has never been the same. I've been running away from dating and relationships for a long time now, but I just got introduced to online dating and I want to see where it goes. I think it is time for me to move on with my life and make the best of it. Since I lost my wife and daughter, I try to get into as much things as possible to keep me busy, so when I'm not working, I help out with charities anywhere all over the world and it is actually a lot of fun because I get to meet people who appreciate whatever little it is I can do for them. I love to play basketball anytime I can, it helps me take my mind of the things that bother me, I actually had dreams of a basketball career when I was younger, but then things went bad when I broke my knee, so I had to think of other things to do, and here I am in auto sales(funny thing, I studied accounting in school). I hear there are a lot of nice people and bad people on here so if you are a part of the later, please don't contact me.

I would like to meet an interesting lady, who is caring and understanding, who is not selfish, tries to put other people first every once in a while, who is willing to share her time and space and who will be there. I just need someone who will take me as I am and does not want me to be someone of their fantasy.

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