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by micksmith Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:00 pm
Approached by Mark Job by email. Saying they want to buy my boat. They sent a cheque that didn't clear and persistantly asked me to send money to them while it clears. They may have scammed me in other ways as well.

Beware of these people:
Mark Job <[email protected]

The shipping agent introduced to me by Mark Job
[email protected]


BRYAN ROBINSON (the person they wanted me to wire the money to via western credit union)
Address:25 NOWELL ROAD BARNES
LONDON SW139BT
GREAT BRITAIN.

Please warn others of these scammers and put them on as many spam lists as possible. Thanks
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by benjamin Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:39 pm
Thanks for posting Mike., and welcome That is an absolutely typical fake check scam - pay in the check, send the money, check bounces, you are left footing the whole bill. How do you mean they've scammed you in other ways as well?

PS Putting them on spam lists is not a good idea (unless you mean lists warning of spam - that happens automatically) - they just open a new email account which google won't find (so no help to other victims)

by micksmith Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:11 am
They may have scammed me in other ways if it had continued.

The cheque bounced so I only had to pay the cost to the bank. The cheque was in euros to a sterling bank andf I had to pay the exchange rate difference which came to £200 when the cheque bounced. They asked me to send them money while the cheque was in clearing, but I didn't. So it could have been worse.

I thought that adding their email to spam lists would be OK, because it irritates them a little and makes them have to change emails. Its not the revenge I would like against them!

I would like others to be aware of this scam and warn others, but I also wish I could get them back!

by benjamin Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:40 am
A good way to get back at them is to post the details (the first email) on our sister site 419eater.com, then perhaps some baiters can waste their time.

by Ralph Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:53 am
Hi Mick

i am glad that you realised before losing money to the scammer, a dishonour fee isn't nice but but yes, you could have lost much, much more.

As for reporting their email addresses, yes, it is an inconvenience to the scammer to have an email address closed, but it is much more of an inconvenience for them to lose a victim.

You will see by looking through our forums that we have gone to the trouble of listing many scammers email addresses, by doing this it allows a potential victim to get a hit on the email address of the person who has contacted them offering the lottery win, inheritance or payment for goods which does save many victims.

By having an email account closed the scammer need only open a new one which takes only a minute or 2 and then he will be bak in business, this time with an email address that doesn't get google hits if searched on.

CLosed email accoutns is an ocupational hazard for scammers nd one that they are well prepared for, they will have their lists of victims transfereed and ready to go in case it happens.

You can see in many cases we have exhaustive details listed on the details associated with an email address, in some cases this will have taken us many hours to compile, many hours of our time compared to 1 or 2 minutes of theirs is definately not good economy and inadvertantly helps the scammer.

We strongly recommend listing the details and email addresses of scammers on sites such as ours which does make it much hearder for them to operate


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Or do as Benjamin has suggested which can realy make them suffer

by Dan Jones Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:59 pm
Hey Mick, sorry to hear that you lost some money, but i am glad to hear it didn't go to the scammer.

You may be able to claim those bank charges back. I'm not sure if the process works for bounced cheque charges, but i've claimed unplanned overdraft charges back a few times. Banks charge you way too much to send you a letter telling you the money isn't there, or that you went £0.05 into your overdraft.

Just had a google and found this handy list of what can and can't be claimed LINK. You can claim the cheque return fee, but not the currency conversion. You can claim any fees up to six years ago, so you may want to check throuh all of your statements and see how much you can get back. Beware: if the claim is for too much money, they will more than likely not pay and wait for you to take them to court.

Hope this helps.

by Arnold Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:04 am
"BRYAN ROBINSON
Address:25 NOWELL ROAD BARNES"
Real address, but no such occupant apparently. If he did exist, he would be an innocent third party. WU payments can be withdrawn anywhere in the world.
by gollum Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:53 pm
Isn't it funny how these inportant men all have free email addresses. My contribution to the list is below

BANK TRANSFER INFORMATION:
ACCOUNT NAME: SB A/C
BANQUE ATLANTIQUE ABIDJAN C-I (EMAIL DIRECTOR: [email protected]

HON ATTORNEY OLIVIER(ESQ)
DESTINY CHAMBERS & ASSOCIATES
NO.17 DE LA REPUBLIQUE 02 BP 1907.
ABIDJAN 02 IVORY COAST WEST AFRICA.
TEL:(225)66450555.
E-mail; [email protected]

maduagwu maternity home.
et para maternity pierre
06 plateau road abidjan cote d'iviore.
tel +22504168978
(This is the hospital where the scammer was taken to recover after a beating by the people who murdered her father. She wants me to pay the bill of $600 before they will let her out. She is calling me father now))


Send the money either(western union or money gramme)â€
by bigfish Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:42 am
Just thought people might like to know that job mark is still trying to scam people trying to sell their boats.. (15,01,2010)Reckon I shall bait this guy a little maybe for a month or so.. Business is slow at the moment so I have the time and could do with a bloody good laugh.. Maybe it will tie up some of his/her resources and save somebody a nightmare..
Last edited by bigfish on Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
by Dotti Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:42 pm
Welcome Bigfish,

If you are baiting, I hope you are doing so safely--we never recommend baiting anyone who has your real personal information. If you are new to baiting, you can find much more information and lots of help over at our sister site, 419eater.

Can you please post his current letters (script), and any email addresses/phone numbers he has provided? The more information we have, the more likely we can prevent someone else being scammed.

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by David Jansen Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:46 pm
Welcome bigfish.

If you want to bait scammers then it's better to use a free email account from gmail or fastmail which hide your IP and makes you untraceable. If you want to learn more about baiting please visit our sister site http://www.419eater.com/index.php

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by bigfish Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:04 pm
Hi there to all.. Unfortunately as a business we do lots of advertising, because of this and the types of products we sell, we get literally tonnes of 419 and other related nonsense over the email.. If I had a penny for every one I have received.. I spent quite a time in Africa in my youth and it may surprise (or may not) you to know about something that used to happen but doesnt now. At least I dont think it does so much.. As I said I was in Africa for some time, I drove with ny girlfriend all over the shop from Morocco all the way down to Nigeria and beyond.. Leaving as you do our address with a few people we met along the way.. Now, all this took place over 24 years ago, I will tell you. That I married that girlfriend on my return to the UK had a couple of kids (who are now in their 20's)( we were only together around 5 years) Got divorced got remarried had another child.. And then bumped into my ex-wife just a couple of weeks ago. Remember that UK address we left with a few people we had met in Africa....... What she said amazed me.. She told me that even after 24 years she still gets the odd letter from some Nigerian arse asking for money..(luckily I dont. She got the house the car and the kids.. She can get the letters too) Obviously she has never replied to any of them but you have to say. Persistence should have its oxford dictionary definition changed to include "any Nigerian you ever met, or didnt meet" I will say that I have baited a few of these guys before, and have a rather unique way of dealing with them which I will tell you all about after I have wasted this guys time.. Surfice to say that before the computer age dawned.. Yes they used to scam people by post.. I will ask my ex for any she still has so you can read them. I hope she kept a few.. Just for posterity of course.. Some of them were quite sincere sounding, but still scams all the same.. Big fish
by Arnold Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:30 pm
bigfish wrote: Yes they used to scam people by post..

They still do. Mostly lottery scams, aimed at the elderly.

by feelingstupid Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:32 pm
I am currently in the middle of doing a deal with this person,and as you can see by my user name, feel like a right dunce for being sucked in. no money has changed hands yet but is there anything i can do to stop this guy doing it again?
by The Enchantress Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:46 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners feelingstupid.

Please don't feel that way - these are professional and callous thieves.

Cease all contact with this scammer and delete mails unopened.

Education and reporting are very good ways to alert and save others from being scammed.

Please post mails/pictures/sites used and other information here.

This posting guide may help http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3622

Also advice here http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5

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