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by David Jansen Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:19 am
Welcome here scammed1986.

I'm sorry you got scammed. I hope you can get your money back, but sometimes these criminals act so fast that the money is already gone by the time you find out about the scam. They have worked out their scam very well to make it sound legitimate, using telemarketing techniques.

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by GomerPyle Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:23 am
I'm sorry to hear that you've been snagged by these scammers - scammed1986.

Don't be under any illusion that you have any chance of getting your money back from the holiday company, and even the logic of attempting to get back money from what was described to you as a 'free gift' only serves to evidence what a crock these people serve up.

Your only hope is to obtain a refund from your card company. It's interesting that they stated you had to pay 'tax' and even more interesting if that's on the recorded portion of the phone call, as most governments like people who collect tax on their behalf to pass it on to them. It might be an angle you can use against them. In areas that the police are ineffective, tax authorities can be much more ruthless.

Do not, under any circumstances, allow either the card company or the holiday company, to get you involved in a three way call, and you are entitled to refuse to do so as it would be a breach of your legal right to have your financial information treated as confidential. It would become a two against one fight and the card company would take the easy way out.

If this holiday exists, and I doubt it does, you'd probably prefer to pay to avoid going on the holiday from hell that would await you in Florida.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by scammed1986 Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:42 am
Thankyou for the advice, it is very helpful.
I have had my credit card cancelled so at least they can't charge anything more. I will be ringing my bank first thing in the morning to see what can be done and I have sent an email to the so called travel company telling them to cancel everything and I will ring them as soon as they open as well. Hopefully I can get this sorted out but if I don't get my money back at least it will be a big lesson!
by Ralph Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:18 am
It couldn't do any harm to notify the ACCC as well, that is the Australain body that deals with online fraud as well as consumer affairs and this scam falls into both categories.

While the help they give you is likely to be next to useless, they may possibly be able to do something about it, even if only to devote some more resources to fraud of this type.
by GomerPyle Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:00 pm
I have copied a very good and sensible guide someone else has written.

I'll include the link and copy it below.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Travel-A...-you-88cf3.htm

Your Rights
According to Florida State Law “You have a right to cancel your purchase and receive a refund within 30 days of the date of purchase" after which, “the seller has 30 days from the time of receipt of your notice of cancellation to send you a full refund". [source] [corroborating source]

The law exists to regulate Sellers of Travel to and from Florida, as well as Sellers of Travel whose place of business is in Florida - it helps to maintain the reputation of Florida as a welcoming vacation destination and protects the citizens of any country by forcing licensed sellers of travelto follow strict rules, including the ones about refunds; so the suggestions listed here are valid from any country.

Action 1 - Call
Call the number you originally dialled.
Politely and clearly state that you are calling because you wish to cancel a contract.
Ask them to confirm the company name and address to which you should send a cancellation letter.
If the person on the other end bluffs or prevaricates, remind them that Florida State Statute 559.933 is quite clear on your right to a full and prompt refund.
If they verbally agree to send you a full refund, accept this happily, but you should not stop yet because if they were to forget to send it, or lose the note to say that you'd called, or had a computer crash, (etc. etc.) then you'd have no evidence that you called within the 30 day cancellation period.
Action 2 - Write
Write a letter of cancellation.
This is a generic letter template.
Send the letter by an international recorded delivery service.
From the UK you could use International Signed For.
Sometimes the companies will state that “you have to return the package", this is usually just an obstruction tactic, but if they insist, take photographs (and scan or photocopy) everything that you return (example).

Action 3 - Complain always
If you you're unhappy about the experience and wish to air your grievance, then please do. Lodging a formal complaint will quickly raise the profile of your scammer so the DOACS can monitor them better: 1-800-HELP-FLA (435-7352)

Complain to the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (who regulate the selling of travel in Florida) using this form.
Inform your “local" national press so that others do not go through the same experience.
In the UK there is the BBC's Watchdog Programme
In the Netherlands, there is Opgelicht.

Action 4 - Write to your credit card company

Write to your credit card company and tell them that you are seeking a refund from the vendor.
Explain why you feel the company misrepresented itself.
Include a copy of the letter you sent to the vendor.
Use local legislation if necessary:
If you're in the UK and the vendor refuses (or is unable) to provide a refund, then the Consumer Credit Act 1974 section 75 is your fallback. It makes the credit card company equally responsible for any misrepresentation, so should attempt to claim the refund from your credit card company.

Action 5 - Help Others
If you succeed in getting a refund, using this or an alternative method, let others know by describing your success below, I'll modify the above steps as appropriate.

Personally I would ring your card company at the earliest opportunity to firmly request cancellation of the transaction having discovered the fraudulent nature of the transaction.

Bear in mind the Florida Statute that all Florida travel agents must comply with.

You may not know a number to call if they cold called you and didn't tell you one which makes it easy. The caller broke Florida Statute Law.

I'd follow the other steps, but calling your card company is a priority. On no account allow them to join you in a conference call with your card company. Make both parties know that that would break your card companies legal duty to keep your financial affairs confidential.


These people are trained well in what they do and work off a script, and you are like a fish in the sights of a shark when they call, and they follow a ruthless follow up job on you to try to make everyone believe this was a legitimate business transaction, when anyone with a brain cell will know you were duped.

Use this script to make sure everyone involved knows that they aren't offering gifts, but misrepresenting themselves and what they are doing. Trying to justify what they did, is like blaming a mugger's victim for being too weak to defend themselves.

This is the relevant page of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission advising you how to report it, and make sure you let your card company that you've done it - and the travel company

http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/ind ... 4011#h2_17

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by scammed1986 Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:18 pm
Thank you so much for that information. I sent en email to the company requesting to have the trip cancelled. I then received aa call from them asking why I wanted to cancel. I told them I would not betravelling and they kept trying to give me alternatives like extending the trip or offering to put some of the money back on my credit card. I clearly stated that 'No, I would just like to cancel everything'. They then told me that my 'package' was already in the mail and that to get a refund I would have to send it back to them and they would offer me a full refund. I asked them to send me this in an email to say they would offer me a full refund and they refused saying that it was not 'company policy; to send cancellations via email.
I also rang my credit card company and they said there was nothing they could do because I willingly gave them my bank details and that I have to take it up with the company! I know that this so called 'package' is not going to arrive so not sure what to do.
by scammed1986 Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:07 pm
Ok so I rang my credit card company back and asked if there was anything they could do as this was clearly a fraudulent charge. They told me to send a letter in writing to VISA telling them everything I had said on the phone which I will do now. I have also lodged a complaint with the ACCC in Australia as well as the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. I've also written a cancellation letter which I will email to the company (again) and will send to VISA for proof as well. Clearly this company is getting my emails because they rang me back when I sent the last cancellation email and they sent me an email back saying that they could only process cancellations over the phone. I will print this off for VISA to see as well which just shows how shifty they are!
by David Jansen Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:40 am
Could you post that email here with the full headers? If we're lucky we can trace the scammer's location by checking the headers, they could be somewhere else then they claim to be. If you don't know how to get the headers, just ask. And understand that there is no physical company, it's just a group of scammers who are probably operating from their house. Legitimate companies must be registerred, and their registration details can be obtained to check on them.

Being a victim doesn't mean you stand alone. We're here to help you.
by scammed1986 Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:50 am
Hi David,

Below is the email I recieved. I have deleted my personal information. Is this what you meant by the headers?
I notice the email address they replied on is different. The email address I was supplied was [email protected]
I have since sent them a reply saying that it was not acceptable to just wait for the 'package' to turn up as I still do not have any confirmation in writing in regards to any transactions with this company.
On another note my credit card company has said there is nothing they can do as I have willingly given my credit card details and the company has said that they are going to send me something so technically it is not fraud. They said I have to wait until the so called package doesn't turn up and then contact them again or if they refuse to offer me a refund.


RE: Confirmation No:
From: Customer Service ([email protected])
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2010 11:41:56 PM
To:



Dear Sir/Madam

Thank you for your email. Unfortunately we are not able to process cancellation requests via email. Please contact our Customer Service Department at 001813 386-1100 to discuss the matter. If you have trouble dialing the number please contact your operator and have them dial the number. Our representatives are available Monday through Friday from 10am to 6pm eastern standard time. They will be able to address any questions or concerns you have about your holiday and help to come to a resolution.

We look forward to speaking with you.

Warmest Regards,
Jerri
Customer Service Department





From:
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:33 AM
To: Customer Service; Reservations
Subject: Confirmation No:



Hello,

I received a call from your company on Friday 11th June telling me that I had won a competition that included accommodation in Orlando and Fort Lauderdale as well as some theme park passes which I could use within 18 months.
I was told that I needed to organise my own flights and that I would be receiving vouchers for the accommodation and theme park passes in the mail.
I have decided not to take this offer as flights from Australia to the US are quite expensive and I won't be able to travel within this time period. I would like you to please cancel the offer completely and I would like you to not charge my credit card since I will no longer be taking up this offer.

My reservation number is .

I would appreciate your earliest reply.

Thankyou,
by David Jansen Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:22 am
The headers are hidden information that accompanies every email. You don't see it as it is irrelevant to the email message, but it is shown if you want to. If you tell me which email provider you use i can try to explain how to get the headers. Take a look at this post in the forums below for an example of an email with the full headers: http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9512

Being a victim doesn't mean you stand alone. We're here to help you.
by scammed1986 Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:49 am
David,

I am with hotmail.
by scammed1986 Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:58 am
Ok I have just found it. I think this is what you are looking for. Again I have deleted personal details.

X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTE7YT0xO0Q9MDtTQ0w9MA==
X-Message-Status: n:0
X-SID-PRA: Customer Service <[email protected]>
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Received: from mail.astar.cc ([71.122.125.130]) by col0-mc3-f6.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:41:55 -0700
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Subject: RE: Confirmation No:
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:46:46 -0500
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Thread-Topic: Confirmation No:
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References: <[email protected]>
From: "Customer Service" <[email protected]>
To:
Return-Path: [email protected]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2010 13:41:55.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[851E4AD0:01CB0C90]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Dear Sir/Madam=20

Thank you for your email. Unfortunately we are not able to process
cancellation requests via email. Please contact our Customer Service
Department at 001813 386-1100 to discuss the matter. If you have
trouble dialing the number please contact your operator and have them
dial the number. Our representatives are available Monday through Friday
from 10am to 6pm eastern standard time. They will be able to address any
questions or concerns you have about your holiday and help to come to a
resolution.=20

We look forward to speaking with you.

Warmest Regards,
Jerri
Customer Service Department

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From: ]=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:33 AM
To: Customer Service; Reservations
Subject: Confirmation No:

=20

Hello,=20
=20
I received a call from your company on Friday 11th June telling me that
I had won a competition that included accommodation in Orlando and Fort
Lauderdale as well as some theme park passes which I could use within 18
months.=20
I was told that I needed to organise my own flights and that I would be
receiving vouchers for the accommodation and theme park passes in the
mail.=20
I have decided not to take this offer as flights from Australia to the
US are quite expensive and I won't be able to travel within this time
period. I would like you to please cancel the offer completely and I
would like you to not charge my credit card since I will no longer be
taking up this offer.=20
=20
My reservation number is .
=20
I would appreciate your earliest reply.=20
=20
Thankyou,=20
=20
.=20
=20

[i]edited extra html from message - dotti
by David Jansen Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:39 pm
Thanks for posting the headers. The only IP i see in there resolve to Tampa, Florida, and is where the server of astar.us is located too.

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by GomerPyle Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:39 pm
That's not a great surprise.

This type of scam derives from the time share business. Quite how closely it's related is open to argument, and it could just be that someone in that business (which is full of sharks) thought up the idea of cutting out the time and work involved in even pretending to appear legitimate.

The likelihood is that the telemarketers are operating out of low rent offices in Texas or Georgia using low paid or often unpaid students desperate for work. That way they can confuse the applicability of Florida state law, which at least has some covering travel agents. Many of these companies were chewed up badly when they tried this scam on US citizens, so appear to concentrate on overseas victims now.

Politicians don't win votes protecting foreigners, and it appears to be a worldwide attitude, as prevalent in the West as it is in Africa. I had hoped that this had scam died out, but the worry is scammed1986, that it must still be providing someone with a good income.

I hope you have success with your card company.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by scammed1986 Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:45 am
Thankyou very much for looking into this for me. I appreciate your time and effort. Well this news doesn't sound good. All i can do now is wait until the so called package doesn't turn up and then get back in contact with my credit card company. The scammers tried to call me again last night because i sent them another email insisting on having written confirmation of the transaction and cancellation. I let it go to voice mail and they left a message again saying that their policy was not to do cancellations in writing however they would offer me a full refund on return of the 'package'. At least i have some evidence that they are trying to offer me a service that i haven't recieved.

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