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by levni Tue May 17, 2011 3:03 am
Yes I read the story of Anki, it's terrible. It's just incredible that there are so many people being scammed and that there is so little the authorities do to stop it.

I can not find any of the pics of him or his "daughter" in any of the search engines.

No I can't go to the bank and ask them, my mum would never forgive me when she found out plus they wouldn't give me any info, this is France....

I am getting a bit desperate though I was so hoping the pics would get recognised....

Would it help if I would post some of the texts he wrote to her ?

My mum is leaving for Holland on the 27th of may, next week. Once she leaves I will not have any insight on what's going on.
Before she would share everything with me, now she says absolutely nothing to me about her"love life".

Do you think he is stirring things up between us on purpose, so he can have her more to himself?

Thank you all !
by Helen Halper Tue May 17, 2011 10:34 am
Hi Levni!


Do you think he is stirring things up between us on purpose, so he can have her more to himself?


Yes, that seems to be the best explanation. The more alone and isolated your Mum is, the easier it is for her scammer to keep control and continue his scam.

Please do post any emails that you have from him. Copied text should be easy to find. Did you put any of the photos through http://www.tineye.com/ ? I wasn't able to find the first 3 and the ones marked "scammer' need to be searched without the scammer marking on them. Are you able to search them?

by Orange Rose Tue May 17, 2011 12:10 pm
Hi Levni

must be really difficult for you!

Would it be possible to tell the bank about the possibility of fraud with your mother? (without asking anything about the account)
At least here the banks are having some responsibility and I think they need to do something if they know.

Wish you all the best, wished I could help.

Orange Rose
by levni Wed May 18, 2011 12:53 pm
Hi everyone,

I tried all the pictures on tineye even the ones of his "daughter" but nothing came up....

I did see however when I click on his pictures the date and time that they were made...
Because he told my mum, " I don't have any pics but my daughter will make one of me in my camper", he told her that in february of this year.
Though when I click on the picture it says that it was made in 2007.....it even gives the mark of the camera it was made with "olympus camera".

Here are some of the mails he sent to my mum,

Morning Sweetheart,

I just got home and the first thing i want to do is write you this email. I hope you are good. Sorry about the connection yesterday. Im happy i got to chat with you a bit.
I really don't know how to put into words exactly what you mean to me, but I have many times seen the love you have for me. I don't think that any other woman could be as loving as you.

I know now that it doesn't matter to you what situation we are in, you will still be there. I know now that we can do anything together and I know that you will be there to save me and to help us fly. I've never experienced the kind of love that we both share and I never thought that I could find someone who can put up with my family. I truly believe that God Himself brought you down from the glorious heavens above to be forever my angel. There is nothing in this world that I wouldn't do for you. And, I will love you and only you as long as God will let me.

Attached is a picture of me and a wax statue of George Washington (U.S. President / Military Leader / Revolutionary War Figure)....I will make some pictures of Hershey later in the day as i lost all i had on my computer from a Virus.

Your loving butterfly,
Bill
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..... Love,

I could kiss you a thousand times and still not be satisfied. My love for you is endless, so tender, so hot and complete. I swear to God I want you in my life. I love you more and more with each day passing and it eases me to know as tomorrow approaches, that I will love you more then yesterday and tomorrow will be more then today. My love for you cannot be measured by words alone as love does express my true feelings for you.

You and only you have given me so much hope and have made me realize how much I want you! please accept my heart as your own and listen to both of ours beating as one. You are my reason to live. Without you I'm nothing. The years will be a test, but nothing will keep me from loving you, or from being by your side. I love you more than you could even know, you are my world. I just wanted to let you know how much I love all that you are and will be. You're truly my love, my soul mate, and my best friend.

I love you
Bill
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Dear.....,
When I think of you, my heart is so full of love and passion for you that I can hardly contain myself. I think of spending every minute of every day with you and holding you so close to me.
I want you to know i feel something deep down my heart for you.
I'm always happy thinking of you and i have never been happier in life like how i am now after we met.
I just want to say I love you and want you to be mine forever.
Bill
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......,
Yes i got your address. I'm happy we have contact now. my daughter is happy for us.
She is Hershey. She just made this pictures for you.
she extends her love too.
Bill
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This last mail is the one I am talking about it were the pics of him in the caravan he send, but when I click on them I can see ther were made in 2007.....
I am planning on telling my mum about this friday, we are having a "good bye" lunch together on friday. Because she's leaving in a week.

I feel very depressed about it all I just lost my dad last year and I feel I am losing my mum. All the stuff that belonged to her and my dad she's leaving with me. She says she wants to start over with a clean sheet with Bill....
It just makes me feel so sick.

The bank will not cooperate and I don't think she already gave him a lot of money, I think he's waiting for her to arrive in Holland, before asking for money.

Thank you all !!!!
by Helen Halper Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 pm
Hi Levni!
Again, I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. The love for your Mum, the pain of losing your close friendship with her, the hurt and frustration and even fear of what you know is happening to her; it's all very evident in what you have posted. It must seem surreal to see your Mum and your uncle sucked in so deeply into their scammers lies. It sounds like your Mum was a big part of you and your children's lives. You have already lost a huge part of that, and now you are faced with your Mum moving away from you to another country, at the behest of a scammer. :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
I'm glad that you know that you have the full support of all of us at scamwarners. We will do everything possible to help you to help your Mum see that she is being romanced by a scammer. I hope that you also have the support of your spouse and that you've shared this with some friends. Do you have any siblings, other relatives, or close friends who could be made aware of the situation and be of help you and your Mum?

The date on the photos is excellent proof! Those photos are haunting me, I'm positive that I've seen them before. Unfortunately there are ways to alter them so that they don't show up on tineye.

Great news as far as showing your Mum that these messages are text used by scammers, scammers such as William Rahl Carter in their scam emails.

I googled:


You and only you have given me so much hope and have made me realize how much I want you! please accept my heart as your own and listen to both of ours beating as one. You are my reason to live. Without you I'm nothing. The years will be a test, but nothing will keep me from loving you, or from being by your side. I love you more than you could even know, you are my world. I just wanted to let you know how much I love all that you are and will be. You're truly my love, my soul mate, and my best friend.


I'm not going to post a huge long link, but google it yourself, and see page after page of results. Then click on where it says more results from scamwarners. There's a bazillion hits! Are these newer emails where he is supposed to be using his own words?
I don't have any more time just now but if you copy and paste more parts of his messages into google you'll come up with a bunch more evidence.

You and yours are in my thoughts, Levni. Image

by Anki67 Wed May 18, 2011 4:37 pm
Hi Levni! I just want to say I am so sorry for you. I can understand how my children felt when even read what you write about your mother. I hope that everything will be all right for you and your mom are opening their eyes about this imposter before it is too late. I would love to help you if I could. Can you get your mom to check this page and read what we've all been through and what we go through? Many of us have lost not only money but also our home. Hugs to you and your family, I think of you and I hope that everything will be all right for you. Regards Anki
by levni Wed May 18, 2011 6:28 pm
Thank you so much Anki,

I read your post and I realize that you went through so much, you and your family are in my thoughts!

Thank you so much for your words and thoughts. It is hard because I don't want to lose my mum, Helen asked if I have any siblings, and no I don't.
My mum and dad had a age difference of 18 years, my dad passed away last year at 78. My mum was always spoiled by my dad, so when he passed away she ofcourse turned to me. I always had a good relationship with my mum I love her to bits. I helped her with everything, which is the normal thing to do, and she stayed with me for a period of time. We talked about everything, and when she started about internet dating two months after my dad passed, I said nothing. I even helped her to set up the internet dating account, although it wasn't always easy for me.
She told me everything about the men on the datingsite, we talked and laughed, she stayed at my place in the weekends.

But then "Bill" came along and it all just stopped.
No more sleep overs, no more girl talk, nothing. I tried hugging her today and she stepped back...
I don't know why, I think he has poisoned her against me. But then I think, how much blame can we put on him ? She can think for herself as well, right?

I just want to thank you all from te bottom of my heart, realy I can't thank you enough for reading my post and thinking with me how to solve the situation.
by Helen Halper Wed May 18, 2011 6:42 pm
You are very welcome levni. We are all here to help.
I have just posted over at our sister site, 419Eater.com to see if anyone recognizes the photos and where they came from. http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtop ... 94#1705094
Here's more hugs for you...
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by Sam Wed May 18, 2011 7:35 pm
Not finding much here either. I suspect another victim of the scammer may have supplied these photos. Possibly another romance scam. The picture of the daughter looks like a "model picture" that has seen much use all over. Wish I could be of more help at the moment. Perhaps a challenge to see the "General" in uniform, all GIs have a grad picture or official picture. Also, any pics of the two "persons" in the same photo together? What doting father would not have a pic of the two of them together.

Simple Google search only leads to mostly dead ends.

The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion.
—Proverbs 28:1
by Morgain Le Fay Wed May 18, 2011 8:39 pm
A couple things.

The picture of him sitting at a small table is the inside of a 5th wheel RV (recreational vehicle). In Europe I guess they are called "campers." This, however, looks like an American model. (I own a number of rental RVs so I sort of know the RV world).

Then:
I just verified in all my mum's mails and he says in fact, that he served in the US military, was stationed in Italy, also served in Iraque but then went to Ghana. It is in Ghana that he was promoted to General in the Ghanese military.


If he served in the US military then he could not as a US citizen be in the Ghanese military. Although he could be a US military adviser but we don't have any in Ghana that I am aware of (former military wife here).
by Anki67 Thu May 19, 2011 12:21 am
Hi Levni! I can only tell you how I felt for this man. You say that your mom can think for yourself, levni than what my kids told me I would always reply to the speech. I thought of Jenn so much in everything he said, it somehow feels like you are brainwashed. I was totally devastated in eight months. But I loved him and did not realize I had been abused. Levni I just want to say, do not give up and continue to love your mother. I thought of when I wrote to you yesterday to try to view this page, is probably no idea. She is in the phase that she believes in him whatever he says. I hope that everything will be all right for the best for you and your mother come to an awakening. I think of you, hug from Anki
by David Jansen Thu May 19, 2011 1:41 am
Levni, if you both are Dutch speakers, then i could give your mother a phone call in Dutch to warn her. You can PM me her phone number.

Being a victim doesn't mean you stand alone. We're here to help you.
by Helen Halper Thu May 19, 2011 1:51 am
I did a little more googling.

I could kiss you a thousand times and still not be satisfied. My love for you is endless, so tender, so hot and complete. I swear to God I want you in my life. I love you more and more with each day passing and it eases me to know as tomorrow approaches, that I will love you more then yesterday and tomorrow will be more then today. My love for you cannot be measured by words alone as love does express my true feelings for you.


This gets many pages of google results, including some right here on scamwarners: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=17731

You and only you have given me so much hope and have made me realize how much I want you! please accept my heart as your own and listen to both of ours beating as one. You are my reason to live. Without you I'm nothing. The years will be a test, but nothing will keep me from loving you, or from being by your side. I love you more than you could even know, you are my world. I just wanted to let you know how much I love all that you are and will be. You're truly my love, my soul mate, and my best friend

This also has many pages of hits. Here's one result, from facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=1 ... &topic=311

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