Car advert scam

I have just received same scam from Diane Joy 'oceanographer' in reponse to car advert in autotrader. I received the email alleging that money had been paid to my paypal account and would be released once I had sent funds by western union to an address in Sao Paulo Brazil. I have reported to paypal and have forwarded emails to them, not surprisingly they seemd quite familiar with this type of thing. It all sounded a bit odd form the start but once the fake paypal email arrived it was clearly a scam so I googled and found that this name approach had been used before. I had not heard of scamwarners before but it is good to be able to get good info on this type of activity and avoided any further involvement.

Hi all,
first time on this forum, thought I would add my twopence worth. I was contacted today by the very same "Oceanographer", same phraseology same questions. Thanks to you guys,I have my suspicions fully confirmed.
cheers

Welcome to Scamwarners, reggieB53!

Was your "oceanographer" using the same name and email address as above? If not, please post the info.

I have one that does not seem to fetch up any search results

[email protected]

Good Morning,

Thanks for your response and am also excited to hear from you the
vehicle is still available for sale and thanks for the information you
just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you
that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
The reason why i purchase this vehicle is because our family are
expanding' cos we are expecting our first child soonest since we got
married for the past 4 years.
I want you to send me your wishes in advance before the imminent
arrival of the baby.
My self and my husband just need one additional vehicle.

Please i want you to email me more pictures if is still available both
the exterior and interior.
Due to my conditions i would not be able to view the vehicle at
present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel ,like wise my
husband is away on a business trip.
According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of
the vehicle i read on the advert page I'm fully satisfied.

I will make an offer of £5,100 inclusive the advert fees just because
i know the worth of the vehicle and more so what you' ve stated about
the vehicle details in the advert page and the maintenance of the
vehicle you've spent so far since you bought the vehicle.
Presently we are located at Guernsey in Channel Islands.

I will take care of the shipment I had already consult a private
shipping company who's going to handle it professionally for me both
the shipping cost and other necessary activities concerning the
shipment of the vehicle.

Though the shipping company still have some furniture to ship for me
in Western Isles i have made it clear to him that your location will
be his first arrival before moving down to any other destination.
Cleared funds would have to be obtained prior to the sale.
The money would CLEAR into your bank account before any transaction
would take place.
My preferred method of payment is by bankers draft or Cheque in a
(GBP) that's the only option and safest way for me to transfer CASH
which am going to instruct my business associate to post you a bankers
draft via post office.

The bankers draft is going to clear in your bank within 3 to 5 working
days days before i shall take the possession of the vehicle .
Hopefully to hear back from you today in order to proceed further with
the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
Bankers draft only required your

FULL NAME and your POSTAL ADDRESS.

In my next email i shall let you know the details that is required
from you to enable the bankers draft gets to you by post office.
I look forward hearing back from you today.

Cheers
Mrs Johnson



Received: 19 June 2012 17:38

Customer Details:
NAME: MRS Sandra Johnson
TELEPHONE:
EMAIL: [email protected]

Vehicle Details:
MAKE: MAZDA
MODEL: MX-5
PRICE: £5300

Message:
Hello

I want to buy your CAR listed for sale on auto trader website.
I hope the CAR is still for sale?
Do you have the receipt of purchase for documentation?
What is the Lowest price the CAR would go for?
I hope hearing from you asap

Regards
Mrs Johnson

Hi bexwhitt,
Although you cannot get any feed back on this name or email address, the whole body of the text reads like the one I had. My car was an MX5 too. It is undoubtedly a scam. They will probbably want to send you more money than you need then ask you to transfer the balance etc etc etc. Thanks for putting it up someone else may have had one too so keep looking!
Best

Hi Bexwitt

I have had exactly the same email this evening for my Mini one (also advertised on autotrader):

Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:24:45 +0000
> Subject: OFFER
> From: [email protected]
> To: .....
>
> Good Evening,
>
> Thanks for your response and am also excited to hear from you the
> vehicle is still available for sale and thanks for the information you
> just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you
> that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
> The reason why i purchase this vehicle is because our family are
> expanding' cos we are expecting our first child soonest since we got
> married for the past 4 years.
> I want you to send me your wishes in advance before the imminent
> arrival of the baby.
> My self and my husband just need one additional vehicle.
>
> Please i want you to email me more pictures if is still available both
> the exterior and interior.
> Due to my conditions i would not be able to view the vehicle at
> present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
> My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel ,like wise my
> husband is away on a business trip.
> According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of
> the vehicle i read on the advert page I'm fully satisfied.
>
> I will make an offer of £3,300 inclusive the advert fees just because
> i know the worth of the vehicle and more so what you' ve stated about
> the vehicle details in the advert page and the maintenance of the
> vehicle you've spent so far since you bought the vehicle.
> Presently we are located at Guernsey in Channel Islands.
>
> I will take care of the shipment I had already consult a private
> shipping company who's going to handle it professionally for me both
> the shipping cost and other necessary activities concerning the
> shipment of the vehicle.
>
> Though the shipping company still have some furniture to ship for me
> in Western Isles i have made it clear to him that your location will
> be his first arrival before moving down to any other destination.
> Cleared funds would have to be obtained prior to the sale.
> The money would CLEAR into your bank account before any transaction
> would take place.
> My preferred method of payment is by bankers draft or Cheque in a
> (GBP) that's the only option and safest way for me to transfer CASH
> which am going to instruct my business associate to post you a bankers
> draft via post office.
>
> The bankers draft is going to clear in your bank within 3 to 5 working
> days days before i shall take the possession of the vehicle .
> Hopefully to hear back from you today in order to proceed further with
> the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
> Bankers draft only required your
>
> FULL NAME and your POSTAL ADDRESS.
>
> In my next email i shall let you know the details that is required
> from you to enable the bankers draft gets to you by post office.
> I look forward hearing back from you today.
>
> Cheers
> Mrs Johnson

With the same message earlier in the day:

Customer Details:
> >> NAME: MRS Sandra Johnson
> >> TELEPHONE:
> >> EMAIL: [email protected]
> >>
> >> Vehicle Details:
> >> MAKE: MINI
> >> MODEL: ONE
> >> PRICE: £3250
> >>
> >> Message:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I want to buy your CAR listed for sale on auto trader website.
> >> I hope the CAR is still for sale?
> >> Do you have the receipt of purchase for documentation?
> >> What is the Lowest price the CAR would go for?
> >> I hope hearing from you asap
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Mrs Johnson

I was not sure what to make of either emails at the time but am glad to have found someone else who has had the same thing! Its definitely a scam, just glad it didn't get any further. I have reported it to autotrader,
Thanks

Thanks for posting this warning. I recieved the same email in respect of my car for sale.

I immediately thought it was dodgy and googled the email address prior to reponding... and then this site came up.

The message was:

Received: 23 June 2012 11:07

Customer Details:
NAME: MRS Sandra Johnson
TELEPHONE:
EMAIL: [email protected]

Vehicle Details:
MAKE: SEAT
MODEL: IBIZA
PRICE: ?5995

Message:
Good Morning

I am interested in your CAR listed for sale on auto trader website.
I hope the CAR is still for sale?
Do you have ALL THE PAPER work and the receipt of purchase for documentation?
What is the Lowest price the CAR would go for?

I hope to hearing from you

Cheers
Mrs Johnson

It is exactly the same as yours bexwhitt and heleny86.

Your second emails seem a very unlikely story and not worth risking the value of the car or indeed the contents of my bank account or personal identity.

Thanks again for posting... Your original message was the only one google found so cheers for posting and warning others. I felt I should respond and confirm this is almost certainly a scam.

My husband had advertised his car in Auto Trader and got the exact same email from this Mrs Sandra Johnson. Thanks for posting these here because it made it clear that it is a scam. Thanks!

Hi, I've had one of these messages yesterday 23/6/12 re a car I have advertised on Autotrader had a follow up one this morning with similar messages to above - Assumed it was a scammer and this is confirmed by the previous posts - does anyone have any idea how the scam works and what their intentions are! (just out of interest) Thank you everyone else for posting their info and to the site organisers for the Forum
PS Anyone want to buy a nice Renault Kangoo No scammers please

Hi,
They want your bank details/Paypal info! It carries on to them sending you a fake Paypal page/wanting you to take x amount of £'s too much then sending it back by Western Union. The one I had came from Brazil!!
Cheers!

Another tip to check out after is the copyright label on the false paypal mails they send you, check lower part of it. some states from 2009 and even 2010 and its 2012 right now...

My brother also encountered one of the scammers and i posted all info here viewtopic.php?f=26&t=33309

I received the same email today from a [email protected] as per below:

Hello,

I am so happy to hear from you that the vehicle is still available for sale and thanks for the information you just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
The reason why i purchase this vehicle is because our family are expanding' cos we are expecting our first child soonest since we got married for the past 4 years.
I want you to send me your wishes in advance before the imminent arrival of the baby.
My self and my husband just need one additional vehicle.

Please i want you to email me more pictures if is still available both the exterior and interior.
Due to my conditions i would not be able to view the vehicle at present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel ,like wise my husband is away on a business trip.
According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of the vehicle i read on the advert page I'm fully satisfied.

I will make an offer of £7,100 inclusive the advert fees just because i know the worth of the vehicle and more so what you' ve stated about the vehicle details in the advert page and the maintenance of the vehicle you've spent so far since you bought the vehicle.
Presently we are located in Channel Islands.

I will take care of the shipment I had already consult a private shipping company who's going to handle it professionally for me both the shipping cost and other necessary activities concerning the shipment of the vehicle.

Though the shipping company still have some furniture to ship for me in Western Isles i have made it clear to him that your location will be his first arrival before moving down to any other destination.
Cleared funds would have to be obtained prior to the sale.
The money would CLEAR into your bank account before any transaction would take place.
My preferred method of payment is by bankers draft or Cheque in a (GBP) that's the only option and safest way for me to transfer CASH which am going to instruct my business associate to post you a bankers draft via post office.

The bankers draft is going to clear in your bank within 3 to 5 working days days before i shall take the possession of the vehicle .
Hopefully to hear back from you today in order to proceed further with the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
Bankers draft only required your

FULL NAME and your POSTAL ADDRESS.

In my next email i shall let you know the details that is required from you to enable the bankers draft gets to you by post office.


Regards
Caroline

Not impressed, I did question her original email due to bad grammer but thought we can't all be good

Hi, We are trying to sell our car here in Canada, and I was contacted by "Randy Wilson" in Oklahoma, who apprently works for Gulfport Energy on a rig, and is too busy to come to see it. Anyway, I think you all know the story by now ... send paypal information ... his courier agent will come to pick it up have I confirm I have received payment. Well, I don't have a paypal account, and won't be opening one any time soon. Thanks to this website, I have been able to confirm this is a scam. Thanks!

Welcome to ScamWarners avie2u. Please post up the email address this scammer is using. People searching by email to see if they are dealing with a scammer.

Hi All,
Yup, I got the same one too, this time from:

[email protected]

The "pregnant scammer"!!