I actually got an email from
[email protected] as well , he sent me the exact same message that bob posted.
After claiming he paid, i found a "paypal legal notice" in my junk mail that said this:
Dear (name removed for privacy),
We really want this transaction to work out but since you are not ready to show your understanding and cooperation, we will have to take things up through the tough proper authorities. We believe you read our security measures and company policies message and you are only waiting to test the strength of our securities. By not responding positively to our email notifications and acting according to our instructions, You have violated our security measures and we will have your profile details and account details with us passed to the Federal Bureau Of Investigation, the Internet Fraud Crime Commission and the Australian Police Department so as to ease their stress of tracking you down and delivering proper justice on you.
As your payment company, we have our rules and regulations and we strongly believe that by you using our services, It means you agree to our terms and trust our guide for an efficient and safe transaction. Obviously, you have failed to follow our instructions and proven to be recalcitrant to our guides therefore we assume you to be either a non cooperating customer or one of the numerous online fraudsters PayPal is working hard to put an end to.
According to the safety measures we take when handling transactions involving huge sums, We shall not fail to proceed into the next step which is our legal actions proceedings. This message will be our last alert to you and if we do not read from you within a short period, then be sure to receive visitors fighting internet corruptions from all governmental agencies in your local area and international standards.
As PayPal is not a hostile company, we are giving you a 24hours grace to get back to us with the requested details. If by the end of the given period, we have not received the requested details from you, we reserve the right to infringe and forward your information on file with us (which includes your contact details, DOB and telephone lines) to all governmental agencies backing us, this also includes the immigration officials of your country and we shall as well close your PayPal account.
This message is not a threat by PayPal but a legal step that we take in order to ensure a safer environment for all our users.
We request for the Scanned Receipt of the western union money transfer to prove sending of the shipping fees in less than 24hours and once we receive these details, we will release your funds into your account or otherwise face the consequences of LEGAL ACTION.
This is done in accordance to our policy and in other to protect both the seller and buyer.I also got another person named melaine west who is a pretty well known scammer and James powel, I was also listing my item on gumtree, they texted me with phone numbers with the area code "131"
James Powel's email:
"for the convenience of both parties i have organized with someone to come pick it up as soon as we're through with payment... Will you be able to help me wire the Shipping fess via western union money transfer to my shipper cos the total payment which include the shipping charges and some other commissions needed to get the ESP to its destination would be issued altogether through PayPal
i will include the $600 they charged to pick it up and take it to my home(1st class treatment), to the payments i will send through paypal after i have made the payments... I could have done this on my own but I'm presently offshore and incapacitated to send money through western union,i tried to pay online but i will need a credit card which i didn't bring along, and there is no post office around me here the only means I can do this is by paypal, and paypal is well aware of this, and that's more reason why they recommended I include the shipping fee"
Melaine west's email:
Thanks for the swift response...I am willing to know the lowest price of
it.due to the nature of my job and location...i will not be able to come
for inspection,am a very busy type as i work long hours
everyday,i have gone through your advertisement and i am satisfied with
it.As for the payment..i will be paying you via the fastest and secure
way to pay online(PayPal).I have a private courier agent that will come for
the pick up after the payment have been made ...so no shipping included.
You can now send me your PayPal email so i can pay in right away and also
include your address in your reply.If you don't have a paypal
account,you can easily set up one...log on to
http://www.paypal.com.au and sign
up. its very easy.I await your reply asap
Riley Crawford's email:
I have made payment, didnt you get the confirmation from paypal?
Riley
From:
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[email protected]Subject: RE: Reply to your inquiry on gumtree
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:27:11 +1100
Hey sorry but Im wondering if yore still interested in the ltd since i haven't seen the payment. another person has expressed an interest in the guitar .
From:
[email protected]To:
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:42:21 +0000
thanks, I will make payment shortly
Riley
From:
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[email protected]Subject: RE: Reply to your inquiry on gumtree
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:40:20 +1100
I have sent an invoice also ill throw in the esp case
From:
[email protected]To:
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:28:50 +0000
This is my paypal email ofcourse. You have to click on request payment, fill the form and send it to my email. thanks
Riley
From:
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[email protected]Subject: RE: Reply to your inquiry on gumtree
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:26:40 +1100
Sorry may i get your paypal email ? I tried sending it to this email address :
[email protected] but it says that this account is currently unable to send money
From:
[email protected]To:
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:04:36 +0000
Thanks Removed personal information. ~Bubbles, Yes please send me an invoice now so that I can pay you off. Once i complete payment, the shippers will come by Wednesday or Thursday to collect. thanks
Riley
From:
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[email protected]Subject: RE: Reply to your inquiry on gumtree
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:58:24 +1100
Thank you for your quick reply! I'm glad to hear that! Ah its alright! I completely understand how difficult it is! When would you like me to send the invoice? I can send it to you right now and pack the guitar straightaway . Thats fine! Paypal seems to be the way to pay since its the most convenient,
Its alright , So you will be orgnising for a courier to come and collect the ite from my house?
my mobile number is
Removed personal information. ~Bubbles , Its fine! I sleep really late anyay so feel free ,
No I'm not the first owner, it originally belonged to guitar technician
.
I'm selling it because I actually have too mny guitars and this one doesn' get played as much so there no point in it really gathering dust here.
No thats alright~ i can assure you however that it is in perfect condition!
From:
[email protected]To:
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:34:27 +0000
Great, thank you for getting back to me re my text message, I agree to buy at your price and i am keen on the buy myself. How I wish i could come for viewing and inspection but being in the military is not funny at all and we are away right now although I will be back in some couple of weeks precisely 9weeks. Due to my inability to make a bank deposit, I would be paying via PayPal which is safer for me and i will cover the paypal transfer fees. Kindly send me a paypal payment invoice or create an account at
http://www.paypal.com.au if you dont have one. I know their are lots of dreamers and time wasters out there but this is real cos I will make a concrete pick up arrangement with my transport agent who will be coming over for pick up once you receive full payment into your PayPal account. Have a nice day. Few more photos will be appreciated as well.
Please be kind enough to resend me your land/mobile phone number and i will try as much as possible to give you a ring soon albeit schedule is very tight for me right now. thanks and get back soon.
I'd like to know certain things too;
Are you the first owner?
What is your reason for selling?
I'm sorry, just want to be sure about the sale before i proceed
Riley
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All three of them used the excuse of being overseas and unable to come inspect the item.
I removed personal information and added quote boxes for clarity. ~Bubbles