Thanks Danieljack!
Just to clarify a few other points as well.
Less experienced (and often younger) romance scammers, and those with little patience will often "fall in love" immediately, and may even ask for money at the first chat. This will scare away many victims, and may cause paying victims to realize the truth sooner, but they quickly move to new victims so they accept this.
But there are many romance scammers out there that are much more experienced. These scammers have learned that taking their time to convince the victims the relationship is real will ultimately lead to a bigger payout. They will spend weeks to months setting up the fictitious relationship. They will have a much larger supply of scripts (often better written) but they will make the effort to answer at least some of the questions asked of them. They may even send flowers and other items. They do this to make the relationship seem much more real, and to make you think that they are spending their own money on your "relationship." Of course they don't actually pay for them themselves--the scammers purchase those items with stolen credit card numbers that they purchase from hackers, or they even use credit cards belonging to other victims.
These experienced scammers will wait weeks, months, sometimes even a year before coming to the money requests. They will avoid asking for extremely large sums of money, at least in the beginning. They will use tools to create fake webcam, and may even register domains or create fake websites to support their stories. They will have a female ready to handle phone calls (or will use soundboards or similar tools.) They do all of this because they know that in the end, their efforts will likely pay off.
by Dotti
Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:17 pm
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by madimetsa
Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:33 pm
Note by Dotti: This person is actually the same person as Crusader37, the victim who continues to hold onto the delusional belief that "she" is real. He signed up under a new username in an apparent attempt to make his "defense" seem more plausible.
It is indeed a scam even though this victim is not ready to accept it. I have added this note for the sake of any new visitors to this thread, as I would not like to see them end up getting hurt as a result of believing this poster's misinformation.
helo danial jackson
i want to say i do actualy know this person who you say is scam. really she is not but.. the person is just a little bit insecure and only sometimes she has tried to fool people to thinking she love them... because she is lonely. but for the most part of it she is just insecure and only wanting someone to love.. those she does not like she tends to mislead.. i lived in the place at bobo lane where she said she lives at.. and i have known her for a while.. but because some people have been messed around by her does not mean that it is totally a scam. but she is not really a kind of people that would be good for dating. but she is a kind young woman. just sometimes screwy in the head
It is indeed a scam even though this victim is not ready to accept it. I have added this note for the sake of any new visitors to this thread, as I would not like to see them end up getting hurt as a result of believing this poster's misinformation.
helo danial jackson
i want to say i do actualy know this person who you say is scam. really she is not but.. the person is just a little bit insecure and only sometimes she has tried to fool people to thinking she love them... because she is lonely. but for the most part of it she is just insecure and only wanting someone to love.. those she does not like she tends to mislead.. i lived in the place at bobo lane where she said she lives at.. and i have known her for a while.. but because some people have been messed around by her does not mean that it is totally a scam. but she is not really a kind of people that would be good for dating. but she is a kind young woman. just sometimes screwy in the head
by Dotti
Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:32 pm
Welcome back Crusader/madimetsa
Signing up under a new username to post the same tripe will not make it any more true, nor does it make "her" any more real. "She" is still a scammer, and you are still NEVER going to meet her.
If you want to delude yourself and send your money to a scammer in Africa, we cannot stop you. Of course, we are more than happy to try to help you to understand what is going on. But we certainly are not going to allow you to pull others into your delusions. As a result, I have added a note to your post, to make sure that readers understand the truth.
Signing up under a new username to post the same tripe will not make it any more true, nor does it make "her" any more real. "She" is still a scammer, and you are still NEVER going to meet her.
If you want to delude yourself and send your money to a scammer in Africa, we cannot stop you. Of course, we are more than happy to try to help you to understand what is going on. But we certainly are not going to allow you to pull others into your delusions. As a result, I have added a note to your post, to make sure that readers understand the truth.
Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by crusader37
Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:57 am
thats the way they do it.. anyway since i have seen this site.. i have thought of it and i confronted the person and i have stopped my communications with this person. and have been telling other people about it and doing what i can to help expose them... and since that time i have not ... its not the same feeling anymore... it is emptiness that is the feeling when i was conversing with this person.. but it is fading away fast and quietly.. but its done with. i was married once 12 yrs ago.. that was the only woman i did ever have... anyway thank you for putting this post in.. i have been trying to find something on this person since august and if you did not put the phone number of her here i would not have known anything.. but it is the very same phone number 011233241449982.
but anyway the situation is over... and i am content here just being me doing what i got to do where i live.. and my little dog too. but anyway again thank you mr jackson
but anyway the situation is over... and i am content here just being me doing what i got to do where i live.. and my little dog too. but anyway again thank you mr jackson
by crusader37
Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:00 pm
Dotti wrote:@crusader:
BOTH links belong to porn actresses: The photo in your facebook link is of an Indian porn woman. (click link to see search results.) The woman in the photos is not even Ghanaian!
The woman in Danieljack's link (the one you say is on the passport) is this porn model: http://www.auntiesbedroom.com/martha/martha001.html
The scammers have just done what they normally do--gone to porn sites and selected photos of women that will be useful for their scams, and saved them so they could send them to victims.
I'm going to be VERY blunt here, not just for your sake, but because I don't want this thread to encourage other victims to hold on to a lie. Whether you realize it or not, you are NOT really looking for the facts. You ARE trying to hang on to hope of something that does not exist.just because you want to think that, does not mean that is it.. but there could be also more then one person posing as this woman..
It is not that we want to think it. We would love to be able to say that it looks like you have found your future partner. Unfortunately, we know better. We have dealt with thousands of these scammers. We KNOW and understand how they work, period. What we say is not based on preconceived "ideas." The people who volunteer on this site have literally spent thousands of hours dealing with these scammers - baiting them (posing as victims), researching them, and sometimes even befriending them for information. We aren't dealing with theory here, we are dealing with a wealth of experience and knowledge. And yes, when it comes to porn models, there usually IS more than one scammer posing as the same porn model. But the porn model herself is not involved--she is making her money off her porn photos and videos, not online scamming.
Are there real Africans looking for actual relationships online? Yes. But you are not dealing with one.that could be them but having multiple video s going on at the same time.. that could be a stretch but could be possible..
Yes it is a stretch. As to whether the real person in ANY of the photos loves you and plans to marry you--it's about as likely as you winning the powerball lottery jackpot (the real one, not the scammer invented one) this week.im glad i have not sent her much of anything.
Which tells me you HAVE sent money. What you consider to be very little is actually quite a bit in Ghana, and to the scammers, it means that it is worth their effort to continue scamming you.
mm no i sent her some " stuff" " like well actually it was stuff i didnt want or need but stuff she wantred like a pocket book and a tiny little mp3 player a lether coat probably 1 or 2 yrs old.. things of that such.. but anyway for me now the evidence from what i have gathered and have dealt with is that.. it points to being a fake person... thats it and unless there is proof of other wize i dont think there will be but unless there is...my game with her is done.. its been done actually for about a week now
by Dotti
Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:14 pm
Items the scammer doesn't want for himself can be sold for cash, so that is still enough to encourage the scammer to keep going.
I'm glad that you have cut off contact with this scammer. Now you just need to watch out for approaches by the same scammer using a new name and photos.
I'm glad that you have cut off contact with this scammer. Now you just need to watch out for approaches by the same scammer using a new name and photos.
Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Danieljack
Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:56 am
by crusader37
Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:48 pm
what do you know or have heard of a n email of [email protected].. and a username of taufic78
this one is possible could be the same person as miss adobea.. i have nothing to do with tjhis person but i just happend to see the profile on the afroromance site the pictures that is used is clearly apparently that is a porno model that looks similliar to the ones of the first time i have got... supposedly the person is on Andover, va. claiming the time to be 7.20 at this moment when it was 3:30 pm here in frederick, Md.. i dont know if it might be the same person or not but there are similarities that could be construed as being the same person. thank you
this one is possible could be the same person as miss adobea.. i have nothing to do with tjhis person but i just happend to see the profile on the afroromance site the pictures that is used is clearly apparently that is a porno model that looks similliar to the ones of the first time i have got... supposedly the person is on Andover, va. claiming the time to be 7.20 at this moment when it was 3:30 pm here in frederick, Md.. i dont know if it might be the same person or not but there are similarities that could be construed as being the same person. thank you
by crusader37
Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:33 pm
and also an email of some one that is [email protected] this person says she is in Ontario canada.. i got an email from her finally with some of her supposed pictures in it but what was the redflag is the IP adress comes from Accra, Ghana, the same p-lace and area that the Grace Adobea is at
by crusader37
Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:18 pm
the anasfreshie is a person who uses cynthia sin's pictures and pretends to be here and yes they are indeed in accra, ghana and infact online right now...
by crusader37
Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:36 am
and there are a good bit of female scammers too over there in that part of africa
there is another site.. that has cought the real scammera and has the real photos of them and who they pretend to be and the romancescam site but they apparently dont know anything about miss adobea.. it sem like only this site does.. no other site anywheres ive ever seen has any mention of her but anyway.. the miss freshie.. or aka cynthia sin pretender is i think a guy hes on fb.. but he blocked me from seeing him but when i chweck it out as someone else he is visible his name is anas klok freshie. pretending to be a christian person quoting the bible but alot of them do that in hopes of finding friends to leach on to
there is another site.. that has cought the real scammera and has the real photos of them and who they pretend to be and the romancescam site but they apparently dont know anything about miss adobea.. it sem like only this site does.. no other site anywheres ive ever seen has any mention of her but anyway.. the miss freshie.. or aka cynthia sin pretender is i think a guy hes on fb.. but he blocked me from seeing him but when i chweck it out as someone else he is visible his name is anas klok freshie. pretending to be a christian person quoting the bible but alot of them do that in hopes of finding friends to leach on to
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