I am not sure, is it scam?

Normally the scammers seek to target people who aren't 'wordly wise' and well-educated, as they are easier to fool with their lies. They often use the story that they have a European heritage to explain their unusual accent. He would have come to realise that his fake biography wouldn't be likely to work with your background and knowledge.

Thanks

I am surprised that he gave up that quick. He must have registrated at finya.de about at the same time as I did and that was approx. 2 or 3 weeks ago. I would have thought scammers stay longer in one place until they really have success??!!??

Normally they will contact many other people, but most scammers concentrate on people who speak English simply because most of them speak English better than any other language. For him to choose a European background and use a German website was a very silly tactic and perhaps he realises this.

Alternatively he may have just disposed of that registration and set up a new one. Scammers are used to using more than one identity.

Hi Stefanie, he is definitely fake, I received exactly the same mails, he was very careful to write a few sentences in response to what I did but overall it is exactly the same text and tenor. Same phone-numbers as well, different pictures, though. He is active on Finya.de with a profile named lonelyheart1, calls himself Ben Beirman now, hotmail-adress and business-address that cannot be found on Google ... Sorry, he did sound nice and I doubted very much as well, but I guess we both did well in keeping our guards up. Hope you find somebody that deserves you!

Gretchen

Hello Gretchen,

about two weeks ago, I was contacted here at the scam warners forum via PN by a german lady which also was contacted by Ben Zalsman via finya.de
A day later we had a telco and couldn't stop laughing.

We have figured out, how these guys operate on finya.de
As a matter of fact, they sneak around and they are looking for potentially victims. After they have found one they create a complete new profile matching with your profile. "My Ben", was one year older than me and about 10 to 15 cm taller and used to share some of my interests.

The lady's Ben (in the meantime with a new profile pic and a new user name) was one year older than her, only a bit taller than her and also shared her interests, but still using the same name and the same email adress.

And he was pentrating her much faster. I had for about 14 days an email conversation with him, which suddendly stopped. In her 14 days she has received a bunch of red roses, but he also went on a trip to New Guinea to buy woods for his customers and he was already victim of a robbery in between the first 2 days.

Two weeks ago I met someone at finya.de whom I have already met in real life. Keep your fingers crossed , as I like him very much!!! And he is not a scammer for sure

Regards from Germany,
Stef

HE'S BAAAACCCKKK----

i almost had a heart attack when I saw your post. I feel like a total loser!! I knew this guy was cheezy but a total scam?? here is what he wrote to me... i got suspicious when i tried to find the webpage just by searching it on Google and it was nowhere to be found... check out what he wrote... almost identical to mine...
BUT NOW HIS NAME IS BEN!!!



THIS IS THE FIRST E-MAIL FROM HIM:::



Hi i don't have any girlfriends at the moment i was married for 10years and have been single for about 5 years now i have a son he is 16years old so tell how long have you been in finya ?

Ben

americangirl1344
Mittwoch, 23:50 Uhr
hi ben....
well, i joined finya because a friend pushed me too a few months ago.. and i just found the courage to put a picture on about 2 weeks ago..

i see u are a newbie... so? what do u think? a bit weird this internet dating stuff, isn't it?

luvagain4me45
Gestern, 09:10 Uhr
Guten Morgen how are you doing and how was your night hope you slept like an angel yes am also new here a friend too force me here he just got married to a lady he met on finya and see them both happy together make me realize that love is a very wonderful thing when you are with the right partner i just relocated from Norway to Germany this is my 3rd month I am a single man. I work as an Interior Decorator for creative glow interiors this is my website (creativeglowinteriors.com/home) you can check it out . It is a very lucrative job and I do like it a lot. Quite challenging but also interesting. I do love challenges.

I am looking for a serious relationship with a woman that knows what she wants. We are not created to live alone. I need that special friend at this point in my life. Someone I can share my fears, hopes and ambitions with. In a relationship I love to feel wanted, simple things, like a touch, a certain knowing look between two people, romantic gestures.

For fun, well.......the smell of a new country as you step off the plane, being so engrossed in a lovely evening that you don't notice that you are the last ones to leave the restaurant, laughing until it hurts, a pair of new shoes, getting caught in the rain with my special woman, watching an old Hitchcock movie, flirting with my beautiful woman, driving through London's twinkly lights whilst singing and dancing to music in my car, snow on my eyelashes, ........WAKE UP ..Hope that didn't bore you?!! LOL What do you do for fun as well?

Looking to hear back from you..

Ben


NOTICE THE WEBPAGE AND THE PHONE NUMBERS...

HERE IS MORE FROM MY PRIVATE E-MAIL
6:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Picture of Berlin-Los Angeles girl...

funny . you were writing me as I was writing you .

Great minds and all that. ..

well. . my story is not that interesting. . but much more fun to share over a cocktail or two...

maybe you could give me your number soon and we could chat on the phone for a bit. .

just an idea....


Sent from Samsung Mobile



-------- Original message --------
From: [email protected]
Date:
To: berlinlagirl <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Finya Girl...


Hi Corey i should be in Switzerland for a week after my meeting i should be heading back it sure will be fun too meet you and this am very happy about i did not finish telling you about my my past relationship please allow me to start again This is something that I want to do......I want to share with you about my previous hurts, mistakes, disappointments.......You don't have to do the same......this is just something that will help you get to know me better.

My first case of "puppy love" was in the 3rd grade. Her name was Tracy Davis. The reason she caught my eye was that she was a little chubby ;0). But things got complicated when another little boy vied for her affections too. Since I have never like any type of conflict. My diplomatic solution and suggestion was to "share" her. That meant alternating on who got to sit next to her on the school bus home. Not long after that, our schools were desegregated and I never saw her again.

While in high school (secondary) I was a pretty much of a recluse. I stayed to myself and did not get into the dating scene.

Never attended parties. I guess I was mostly a movie buff and bookworm. I had a part-time job after school and during the summer had work as a sales boy and doing housework. I played and enjoyed basketball, though I was not really that good at it. We did not have a school prom my senior year, but rather a banquet. I decided to attend at the last minute and was very nervous about being alone with a girl on a car ride home and the thought of my first kiss scared me to death. Her name was Stephanie. Would you believe that she ended up living the lesbian lifestyle and one of her lovers shot and injured her after a lover's spat!!!

Off to college I went after secondary school and it was a fun time. I made lots of boy friends and we had much fun in the dormitories. Toward the end of my schooling, I met a girl named Mary. I begin to care for her a bit. One weekend I drove to my hometown(35 miles away) and when I returned to school I found her walking arm and arm with the school's leader. She never explained and I had to endure the final semester of my college year
watching them together. It was so humiliating.

I moved to Spain to attend graduate school the next year. That were I met my Ex. I think that I was still on the rebound perhaps, but anyway, Jane and I were married only after knowing each other for no more than a year. my Son (Kelvin) arrived less than a year after we were married. I will not attempt to blame Jane for the break-up of our marriage. She was a good mother. But while married, I began to lose respect for her. I sensed trouble and she started bringing up unnecessary arguments and would always shout on top of her voice. She was quite immature and at times I was naive perhaps and hopefully I am wiser now. My only regret is that the divorce
hurt my kid and if I could do it all over, I would have stayed at least until he is of age. he was 12 when we split. I made some mistakes and it took me awhile to forgive myself. But I know that I have learned from them or at least I am determined not to repeat them.

No one has my heart at the moment. I am not on any type of rebound. To be completely honest, a small vestige of hurt, cynicism and distrust remains. Deep down, I still keep my guard up so that I won't be hurt again. But I am willing to open my heart for that special woman when I meet her.

So that is the saga of Ben........ As I said it is just something that I wanted to share with you.


CRAZY OR WHAT??
THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR STORY; BECAUSE IT SAVED ME ALOT OF TIME WORKING OUT THIS GUY IS A FREAK.

THANKS..
COREY

Ohhh... dear...

Yes. He IS still at finya.de .. many thanks to all of you .. with a little copy and paste
I found you here on this side.

Same texts.. Now his name [email protected]


Finya has kicked him off, I reported him.

He wanted to phone with me this evening - but - thank you Stefanie -
I read this thread first and then.. kicked him off, too.

I matched the pics of you and those he sent to me..
A VERY smart man - What a pity! , the same man as on you pics - but 20 years elder..



We notice the messages...

==> finya.de
Gelöschtes Mitglied
29. November 2013, 07:12 Uhr
Hi,
I just went through your profile and you seem to have a very interesting personality and I sure do like to get to know more about you.Your pics are also interesting...

----

Gelöschtes Mitglied
30. November 2013, 01:03 Uhr
Hi I thought you were not going to write back I must say. Thanks for taking your time to write back. My German is not so good I just relocated from Norway to Germany,this is my 3rd month here I am a single man. I work as an Interior Decorator. It is a very lucrative job and I do like it a lot. Quite challenging but also interesting. I do love challenges.

I am looking for a serious relationship with a woman that knows what she wants. We are not created to live alone. I need that
special friend at this point in my life. Someone I can share my fears, hopes and ambitions with. In a relationship I love to feel wanted, simple things, like a touch, a certain knowing look between two people, romantic gestures.

For fun, well.......the smell of a new country as you step off the plane, being so engrossed in a lovely evening that you don't notice that you are the last ones to leave the restaurant, laughing until it hurts, a pair of new shoes, getting caught in the rain with my special woman, watching an old Hitchcock movie, flirting with my beautiful woman, driving through London's twinkly lights whilst singing and dancing to music in my car, snow on my eyelashes, ........WAKE UP ..Hope that didn't bore you?!! LOL What do
you do for fun as well?

Looking to hear back from you..

Peter
.....


Now I do enjoy my company and I believe that Mrs. Right does exist. I have a philosophy......."you had better not go beating the bushes looking for the right one, because you never know what may run out!" But even at that, one just has to look for the right one and it is a risk I am willing to take. When one can't take a risk, then one needs to ask one's self if one is living at all. Forgive me if that sound cynical. I believe that whatever is good and meant for me will find me or I might find it

Are you romantic when in a relationship?

Let's see.........my hobbies are baking and giving the goodies away!!!! My specialties are chocolate cake, snicker doodles, brownies, hard rock candy..........all from scratch. It is relaxing for me to get in the kitchen and bake. I like trying out new recipes too. I love to cook.I'm a kitchen aficinado...I love kitchen gadgets! I love to cook...it relaxes me. It allows me to use my creative juices. It's all about presentation!.. Do you like to cook? bake?

Peter
----

===>>> E-Mail:

Last night, in my dreams, I saw you on the pier. The
wind was blowing through your hair, and your eyes held the fading sunlight.
I was speechless as I watched you leaning against the rail. You are
beautiful, I thought as I saw you, a vision that I could never find in anyone else. I slowly began
to walk toward you, and when you finally turned to me, I noticed that
others had been watching you as well. "Do you know her?" they asked me in
jealous whispers, and as you smiled at me I simply answered with the truth,
"Better than I know myself."

I stop when I reach you and I take you in my arms. I long for this moment
more than any other. It is what I live for, and when you return my embrace,
I give myself over to this moment, at peace once again. I raise my hand and
gently touch your cheek and you tilt your head and close your eyes. My
hands are hard and your skin is soft, and I wonder for a moment if you'll
pull back, but of course, you don't. I know that this is the moment I have
been waiting for, and I pray that the moment never ends..do you have number
i can reach you on ?

Thinking of you

Peter

I took a stroll last night and as I walked, I imagined me and a woman
walking together to a grocery store and in the process I pictured you
laughing and enjoying our time together. Pardon me for my vivid
imagination. As we think about issues, so do they happen to us. The mind is
a powerful force that needs too be put to work at every time. We humans are
very magnetic in the universe.

I was watching Jay Leno on dvd the other day. I love to watch his
monologue and the "Headlines" Wednesday Night. I was thinking about you
today………… How do you deal with stress? I believe that people should
talk, talk, talk........it always makes things better. And of course ask
for help. In time I hope that you will feel comfortable sharing things with
me. Until then, just know that you can, if you so desire.

What makes you laugh???

Peter

"Words of Affirmation". Actions don't
always speak louder than words.. Saying the words, "I love you," are
important and hearing the reasons behind that love sends my spirits
skyward. So in essence, I tell my partner I love her when I am in love with
her and I want her to express it to me if she feels it as well.

Secondly, there is "Quality Time". In the vernacular of Quality Time,
nothing says, "I love you," like full, undivided attention. Being there for
my lover is critical, but really being there--with the TV off, fork and
knife down, and all chores and tasks on standby--makes my significant other
feel truly special and loved. Distractions, postponed dates, or the failure
to listen can be especially hurtful. What do you think?

Receiving Gifts. Don't mistake this love language for materialism; the
receiver of gifts thrives on the love, thoughtfulness, and effort behind
the gift. If you speak this language, the perfect gift or gesture shows
that you are known, you are cared for, and you are prized above whatever
was sacrificed to bring the gift to you. A missed birthday, anniversary, or
a hasty, thoughtless gift would be disastrous--so would the absence of
everyday gestures.

Also, physical touch. This language for me isn't all about the bedroom. A
person whose primary language is Physical Touch is, not surprisingly, very
touchy. Hugs, pats on the back, holding hands, and thoughtful touches on
the arm, shoulder, or face--they can all be ways to show excitement
concern, care, and love. Physical presence and accessibility are crucial,
while neglect or abuse can be unforgivable and destructive.

Peter

---
how are you this morning and how are the boys i waited for your
mail but never heard from you .Can I ask what kind of work do you do ? You
see Life is all about learning lessons from our past. I believe that I have
learned something wise and valuable from my previous
relationships....mistakes that I may have made, not communicating my
feelings enough, etc. One thing that I have learned is that we should never
predicate our feelings for another on what they can do for us, but rather
who they are.....as Alexander Pope said,"to err is human, to forgive
divine.

Some people fall for the things that people can do for them. Some females
are very predatory....looking for someone to use and then again some guys
can have rather large egos and want to have a pretty, young thing on their
arm(Hugh Hefner)......but we all change and lose some things in this life,
Whether it be our riches, health, sex appeal, status, etc. We are eternal
beings, so it would behoove us all to love people for who they are and not
for what they can do for us. I guess any other type of affection is rather
immature and flighty.

Peter

....
My relationship with my son is very good sometimes he calls me
for advice and me too i call him too for advice sometimes we are very
close. This is something that I want to do......I want to share with you
about my previous hurts, mistakes, disappointments.......You don't have to
do the same......this is just something that will help you get to know me
better.

My first case of "puppy love" was in the 3rd grade. Her name was Tracy
Davis. The reason she caught my eye was that she was a little chubby ;0).
But things got complicated when another little boy vied for her affections
too. Since I have never like any type of conflict. My diplomatic solution
and suggestion was to "share" her. That meant alternating on who got to sit
next to her on the school bus home. Not long after that, our schools were
desegregated and I never saw her again.

While in high school (secondary) I was a pretty much of a recluse. I
stayed to myself and did not get into the dating scene.

Never attended parties. I guess I was mostly a movie buff and bookworm. I
had a part-time job after school and during the summer had work as a sales
boy and doing housework. I played and enjoyed basketball, though I was not
really that good at it.
We did not have a school prom my senior year, but rather a banquet. I
decided to attend at the last minute and was very nervous about being alone
with a girl on a car ride home and the thought of my first kiss scared me
to death. Her name was Stephanie. Would you believe that she ended up
living the lesbian lifestyle and one of her lovers shot and injured her
after a lover's spat!!!

Off to college I went after secondary school and it was a fun time. I made
lots of boy friends and we had much fun in the dormitories. Toward the end
of my schooling, I met a girl named Mary. I begin to care for her a bit.
One weekend I drove to my hometown(35 miles away) and when I returned to
school I found her walking arm and arm with the school's leader. She never
explained and I had to endure the final semester of my college year
watching them together. It was so humiliating.

I moved to Spain to attend graduate school the next year. That were I met
my Ex. I think that I was still on the rebound perhaps, but anyway, Jane
and I were married only after knowing each other for no more than a year.
my Son (Kelvin) arrived less than a year after we were married. I will not
attempt to blame Jane for the break-up of our marriage. She was a good
mother. But while married, I began to lose respect for her. I sensed
trouble and she started bringing up unnecessary arguments and would always
shout on top of her voice. She was quite immature and at times I was naive
perhaps and hopefully I am wiser now. My only regret is that the divorce
hurt my kid and if I could do it all over, I would have stayed at least
until he is of age. he was 12 when we split. I made some mistakes and it
took me awhile to forgive myself. But I know that I have learned from them
or at least I am determined not to repeat them.

No one has my heart at the moment. I am not on any type of rebound. To be
completely honest, a small vestige of hurt, cynicism and distrust remains.
Deep down, I still keep my guard up so that I won't be hurt again. But I am
willing to open my heart for that special woman when I meet her.

So that is the saga of Peter........ As I said it is just something that I
wanted to share with you.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

And so on.. Can I upload some 'new' pics of him?

Think, he'll get some new profil.. on finya or wherever..
Hope we all can help other girls to dismiss him..



Wish you a very good night!

*Britta*

Scam He is totally a scammer Keep away from them

Hi, I wasn't so bright in not seeing all this and he scammed me! Now I've woken up and am reporting.

I'm sure he's got at least one nother german victim.....named Susann.... and calls himself Paul. He made a mistake in signing once.....

Please Susann, if you read this wake up immediately and contact Martina Zielke on Facebook, she can help to find out more.....she's a good one!