If you have been scammed, please post here and share your experience; it may help others avoid the same situation!
by TerranceBoyce Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:07 am
That's a very interesting example John Barry and not an easy one to get hold of.

The scammers will post ads on every ad site you can think of, including ebay, but in this case the scammer has probably posted the initial ad on Gumtree and then claimed to have set up a private listing on ebay, and this is the fake page he has set up set up on a server that isn't ebay. The scammer believes that by appearing to have an ebay account he will have more more credibility. The minute you see the ebay logo and the page set up that you recognise it's easy to overlook that the server address has nothing to do with ebay. It's also not unusual for the criminals to set up domain names with hybrid versions of the real name to make it harder to tell the difference.

The problem is that this scam is now so widespread that it isn't just Romo's performing it.

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by theresa1983 Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:58 pm
I've reported Barclays to the financial ombudsman as I have felt they have been negligent wth taking action against this fraudulent account. I had a generic automated response letter that failed to address my case correctly and contradicted what I orginally told that they would put the account on hold.

I think Barclays are at fault here and the victims of this type of fraud should be entitled to compensation from them!
by TerranceBoyce Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:12 pm
If you haven't already been given any indication by the bank that the account involved has been closed theresa1983, I would send them a mail by recorded delivery pointing out that under money laundering legislation they are obliged to report to the financial authorities any accounts they hold that are reported to have been, or have been suspected of being, involved in fraudulent activity. Failing to do so renders those responsible for the failure, liable to personal prosecution, which is a likelihood if the account is reported as being involved in further frauds. This would then call in to question the bank's money laundering procedures and their ability to properly comply with their statutory obligations.

It has been discovered that the FOS ducks responsibility by refusing to deal with those who aren't customers of the bank in question - namely Barclays. However, that being the case, it opens up the avenue of going straight to the FCA, who are the body that oversees the UK financial service industries as it is idifficult to understand why the overwhelming majority of accounts involved in this organised fraud are held with one bank.

The more people who do this the better, especially if they raise the issue with their MP which isn't difficult to do. Most of these government bodies are expert at fobbing off complainants, but I can assure you from my own experience, that if you set an MP on them, they will change their tune. I'm not saying that they will get your money back, but they'll make bodies like the FOS and FCA pay attention to consumers and do the job they're supposed to be doing.

If you can get the attention of your MP, he can work miracles and, with there being so many victims, if you act together you'd be surprised at what you can achieve.

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by peterg Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:24 pm
Very grateful for this post as would have probably got scamed by [email protected] whilst responding to this add on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T5-Camper- ... 7675.l2557

Which I have reported to eBay

This is the last mail it go from Evelyn

Due to my location and since view is not an option I have requested personal support and I was approved to use the eBay Money Back Guarantee. Here is how the process works:

- you give me your full name and shipping address
- I start the transaction with the eBay,
- they send further payment instructions,
- you have to pay for the item to eBay to secure the funds,
- they confirm me that they received the funds,
- I deliver the van,
- you receive the van,
- they send me the money.

Everything is covered by eBay. I will get paid only after you confirm that you received the van in good order.
Let me know if this is acceptable. Thank you

Eve


On 27 Oct 2013, at 20:11, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

I am unable with phone so please use email as primary contact option. I dont use phone for internet deals.

Evelyn

Anyone else I should report this to?

Thanks Peter
by TerranceBoyce Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:17 am
Welcome to Scamwarners peterg and thanks for taking the trouble to tell use that you avoided this scammer. He's part of a large organised group of prolific criminals who have been very successful and I'm currently in contact with another member of the gang negotiating a sale to get details of the bank account he intends to use.

Overall the scale of vehicle ad scamming supported by laundering the stolen money through bank accounts in the UK is a massive problem and I have seen no acknowledgement by the authorities of its existence, let alone any form of action to warn victims or prevent them losing their money. There are enough risks in buying a vehicle online without the whole transaction becoming a complete lottery and I'd never consider using any of the major sites to buy a car. I just couldn't be bothered to wade through all the scams.

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by barrygilly Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:46 pm
Evelyn <[email protected]>
18:45 (2 hours ago)

to me
Hello,
The vw amarok is still for sale in excellent condition, with no damages or any faults. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £9,200 delivered at my costs.
The deal will go strictly according to eBay rules and policy.
Thank you


This is what im dealing with now, seems like i was just about to be scammed. Still emailing now. She has just asked for shipping address
by Bryon Williams Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:58 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners barrygilly,

Yes, it is a scam. You should just stop all communication with the scammer. Just let him wonder why you are not responding to him.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by rusty Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:44 pm
Responded to ad for merc Vito traveliner on Friday via autotrader and suspicions raised as foreign ring tone and no reply, left message and received text 24hrs or so later asking for e-mail address to send further details. Provided e-mail address and then received request to purchase via ebay and await delivery. Replied saying I wished to view vehicle and ask questions via landline phone no but not holding my breath for a reply. Found this site googling e-mail address message sent from, [email protected], and stunned to see how long this scam has been active without intervention. Keep up the good work! Have phone no provided as well if required.
Thanks
by Bryon Williams Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:02 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners rusty,

Yes, please post the telephone number. Any and all information is helpful.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by rusty Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:48 pm
Hello, telephone no in ad given as 07968582029, needless to say I have had no further communication from Evelyn in response to request to view vehicle.
Thanks
by TheBlueDragon Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:25 pm
I am a newbie to the site. I have just spotted this camper/Evelyn scam. Over the years I have spotted a number of ebay scams and whenever I have the time, I mess with the scammer. And then I bombard Barclays Bank fraud department with emails listing the fraudulent "invoice" showing the fraudulent account number/name and demand that they deal with the fraud, explaining that if they do not, I will initiate proceedings against Barclays Bank in the small claims court under explanation that they are parties to the fraudulent scam.

Surely if we all make as much trouble as possible for the banks, they will get down to dealing with the matter?

Or are there some caviats to my actions?
by Gateway Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:11 pm
Surely if we all make as much trouble as possible for the banks, they will get down to dealing with the matter?


Actually the banks are dealing with the matter, when they are alerted to the fraud they are generally very good at freezing the accounts used, so threatening them is probably not a great idea

whenever I have the time, I mess with the scammer


I hope that you do not mess with them using a real life email address, that is not a good idea.

If you wish you can email me at
[email protected]

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by TerranceBoyce Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:38 pm
My own personal opinion is that UK banks and UK authorities are abysmally lax in implementing existing legislation and the regulation is equally ineffective. Having spent my whole working life in banking before retirement, I know how it should work, and bragging that the UK has the most stringent money laundering legislation on the planet is so much hot air if it's not being implemented.

Considering that it is a criminal offence for any bank, and any employee, to knowingly allow or assist the laundering of money, you'd expect the courts to be overflowing with prosecutions, which is why I always recommend any victim to notify the bank by recorded mail of any account involved in fraud. Thereafter, if the bank, or any employee, allows funds to be laundered through it, they are liable to prosecution, though I have sincere doubts that the authorities have any intention of applying the law.

A massive international criminal organisation has grown from the inadequacies in the UK financial sector and frauds performed throughout the world are all being laundered through the UK, and there's only one reason that's happening. They have found the UK to be crime friendly.

A change can only happen by contacting your MP, which is quite easy to do, and something I have done on several occasions and am likely to do in another matter. If enough people do it, banks and UK law enforcement might be forced to pay attention.

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by vonpaso xlura Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:38 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners! If you want to mess with scammers, please see http://forum.419eater.com/ for the necessary precautions.

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by tesstickler Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:52 am
Thanks for the thread, i stumbled across it while looking for the domain "tbsd.co.uk " after receiving a text to my phone from an eBayer re a "Maxum 2100 power boat 21ft cuddy ski etc".. the listing is now defunct. I had it on watch and it closed so i pinged the ebayer to see if it had been sold. Unusually, when asking a question i was prompted for a mobile number which i provided. The next day i received a reply by text, to my mobile from "evelyn15431" - no actual number... alarm bells ringing now.... In the text they provided an email "[email protected]" i was about to email them when i thought I would just check the domian, (it seemed strange that the response had not come through the ebay channels and with no email) and i found this string. - So thank you!!!

And i thought i would add my two penneth just in case it helps anyone else!

I have not read all of the threads, but i have a question, on here one users bought on the belief they had full ebay protection - how did that fail? The text seems to indicate the sale was fully insured, why did you buyer not get a refund?

I would like to think it wouldn't have happened to me, my next steps would always be to check out the goods, i wouldn't buy a boat or a car for that matter without seeing running first and being happy that the seller was legit... that said, of course it could happen to anyone, so this was a good reminder for me..

I hope that all affected get some satisfaction from the powers that be... and i hope that all the fraudulent traders get what's coming to them - or at least stopped in their tracks!

Cheers
Tess

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