Vw t25 camper [email protected]

[AlanJones]

I have not read all of the threads, but i have a question, on here one users bought on the belief they had full ebay protection - how did that fail? The text seems to indicate the sale was fully insured, why did you buyer not get a refund?

Any confirmation that the victims got saying that the sale was fully insured will have come from the scammer pretending to be ebay. Additionally, the scammer will move the victim away from the safety of eBay/PayPal and get them to pay by some other method, such as bank transfer or Western Union.

By leaving the eBay/PayPal framework, any protection that might have existed (which I don't think eBay provide for vehicles any way) would be lost.

Hi everyone. I just wanted to add to this topic and let everyone know that this person is still active.

I found a MK1 escort Mexico on ebay yesterday for £5300. I emailed the seller as I wanted to buy the car ASAP as it was a very good price.

Within about an hour the listing had ended and I thought the car had already been sold as it was such a good price.

A few hours later I received a text (I asked him to get in touch with me on my mob) asking if I was still interested in the car. I replied saying yes and this is what followed:

On 25 Nov 2013, at 17:56, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
The Ford Escort MK1 Mexico is still for sale in excellent condition. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £5,300 delivered at my costs.
The deal will go through eBay and PayPal.
Thank you

Evelyn

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Matt wrote:
Hi Evelyn,

No worries, could I have your number to discuss further? Where in Scotland can I come and collect the car?

Kindest regards,
Matt

On 25 Nov 2013, at 18:12, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Would it not be possible to email me, I have given my number out in the past only to be inundated with text messages and phone calls.
Due to my location and since view or pickup is not an option I agree for a 5-7 days of full inspection period ( after the date you receive the car ). This means that you have 7 days to inspect the car for any damages and decide if you want to keep it or not!
Because I will sign eBay's return policy, your money will be insured by them and you will have the option to reject the deal, only if we go through PayPal as well. If this is the case, you will receive a full refund (money back) from PayPal and I will have to take the car back on my cost!
You can read more about it following the link below:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/contex ... olicy.html

Let me know if you agree with the above return policy and if you want to purchase the car please confirm your PayPal email.

Evelyn

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Matt wrote:
Hi Evelyn,

Sorry, we are not here to mess you about. We will not inundate you with texts or phone calls. I will call once and once only to discuss this, I would like to talk to you in person.

We are very interested in the car but not willing to go through eBay/paypal as it is not beneficial for either of us. We are not going to part with that kind of money and then be messed around and get conned.

We are more than happy to come to you (we have a truck) and collect the car and put the cash in your hand. OR you can deliver the car to us, we will look over the car to ensure it is all OK and then give you the cash.

Kindest regards,
Matt

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Nov 2013, at 18:32, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Viewing is not available at the moment this is the main reason I want to do it with eBay and PayPal, I am offering free delivery and a full inspection.

Evelyn


On 25 November 2013 18:40, Matt wrote:
Sorry Evelyn, there are way too many scammers about. I'm not Parting with £5300 until I have seen the car.

Please keep me in mind, if you have not sold before viewing is available.

Many thanks,
Matt

Sent from my iPhone

I then did some research as was VERY suspicious and found this forum.

These people should be locked away! sickens me that so many cyber criminals get away with so much.

Hope this helps others.

I really wished I was a bit more switched on at the time and hadn't parted with my money so hastily! I still beat myself up thinking how I could be so stupid to give them money before seeing hte vehicle. It was certainly a wake up call that I shouldn't be so naive and trustworthy.

Anyway, my persistence with complaining to Barclays has got me no where- they refuse to take responsibility and say that they will not correspond with me further on the matter and sugeest i take it up with the Financial Ombusdman.

I strongly advise that everyone who has fallen victim to this scam using a Barclays account, to report them to the FCA so they are aware that it is not just an isolated case as Barcalys seem to make out it is. The more people who have made a complaint against them, the more chance that we can get compensation from them.

I know that the FOS will not deal with victims who aren't customers of Barclays Bank and, as you say, the FCA is the place to complain and, I would also recommend that all victims contact their MP. It may sound difficult but actually it's very easy to do and they will listen to constituents. I've used mine several times and may do so again soon. If lots of MP's get the same demands for action, they will take notice. Their jobs depend on paying attention to constituents.

The issue is that these criminals are money laundering and in my days in banking we took our responsibilities seriously, as the law requires, to protect UK citizens and the economy. The most important report I submitted related to a payment over £1m and had potential terrorist connections. The point being that ANY funds obtained criminally could be funding terrorism, drugs or funding the purchase of arms for use in conflicts abroad. The government and banks may not care about your loss, but the fact is that by tacitly allowing money laundering in this manner creates multiple victims and harms everyone and the economy, as most funds are routed straight out of the country.

I'll never forget the time it was suggested that we should report someone who we know is working as a window cleaner (receiving cash payments) who was paying a sum of £200 in to their account. That was stupid but possibly suggests that banks would prefer to persecute honest people and assist those who are likely to generate large amounts of cash.

I have heard that a bank account I was offered in an attempted fraud against me(I was baiting the scammer), may possibly still be live. Any account reported as being involved in fraud should never be reported again, as that may evidence that the bank is not properly administering anti-money laundering legislation, which is a very serious situation. I'm beginning to wonder if there is proper banking regulation any more.

I'm posting daily lists of scam adverts that I detect on one major site and all the sites are the same. This type of fraud is turning into a major industry.

Yes I agree, the MP's need to be aware of these scams taking place. I'm currently drafting a letter on my case now.

I'm not holding out any hope of obtaining my money back but want to do as much as I can to help stop these criminals in their tracks.

How many fraudulent adverts do you think are posted on each major ad site daily ?

I'm spending a lot of time covering one major ad site and posting what I find in the forum link below, after reporting them to the site.

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79274

The scammers are organised and I have compiled the individual adverts and when I mention a dealer's page being hacked you can expect that this results in an extra 30 or 40 fraudulent adverts. That would give rise to about 100 scam adverts daily, rising to a peak on Friday's when I detected a record 6 hacked pages one week along with separate ad postings, and I'm not foolish enough to believe that I pick them all up. I only post the ones of which I have no doubt they're scams. Beyond them I could double the figure if I reported every suspicious advert, because I can now remember the photos the scammers re-cycle.

The point is that if scam adverts are being posted at that rate, covering every major vehicle type and under-cutting every honest advertiser there is little point in using the site for either a buyer or an advertiser.

From: Evelyn <[email protected]>
To: Michelle Banks
Sent: Jan 2014 8:36
Subject: Re: Range Rover

Hello,
The Range Rover is still for sale in excellent condition, with no damages or any faults. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £5,800 delivered at my costs.

The deal will go strictly according to eBay rules and policy.
Thank you

Evelyn

From: Evelyn <[email protected]>
To: Michelle Banks
Sent: Jan 2014 9:14
Subject: Re: Range Rover

Due to my location and since view is not an option I agree for a 5-7 days of full inspection period ( after the date you receive the car ). This means that you have 7 days to inspect the car for any damages and decide if you want to keep it or not!
Because I will sign eBay's return policy, your money will be insured by them and you will have the option to reject the deal, only if we go through PayPal as well. If this is the case, you will receive a full refund (money back) from PayPal and I will have to take the car back on my cost!
You can read more about it following the link below:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/contextual/return-policy.html

Let me know if the above return policy is acceptable and if you want to purchase the car please confirm your PayPal email for further instructions.

Evelyn

Hi
I was very nearly scammed today and only after doing a little digging did I find your site. OMG I would have died had I sent my money through to these nasty little rodents. My purchase was for a motorhome advertised on motorhomesforsale.co.uk. Thankfully the site responded to my original message to these scum advising I check as they are not held responsible etc etc for purchase and they went on to say what to look for when making any vehicle purchase.
Thank god I did as these scum sent me a link to ebay to BUY NOW of which I did advising they would deliver my motorhome within 48 hours of the funds clearing. They gave me their bank details to pay into Barclays bank with account and sort code. Thank god it's the weekend as I told them I would have to wait until Monday when the banks opened so I could complete the transaction. Needless to say I will be paying Barclays a visit in the morning then onto my local police.
Everything a member has written is a carbon copy of my situation except I was lucky in that I didn't hand any money over.
My only concern now is that when Evelyn said "she" didn't deal with telephones when doing internet transactions I said if she was uncomfortable in handing out her number then I would give her mine to ring me and I emailed these people my telephone number. Now I am worried of what they could actually do with my number Any suggestions greatly appreciated thanks

Welcome to Scamwarners elana909.

You've had a lucky escape. If you had paid, the police and banks will do little or nothing to get your money back. It's become the easiest way to make money in the UK, and it's especially easy for those who visit the country just long enough to open a bunch of fraudulent bank accounts.

You may have read today that the government had been holding back a report stating how widespread and easy benefit fraud had become and I pointed out and forecast that this was the quickest way to become a millionaire now in the UK. Unbelievably I have a link to a news report concerning one scammer who controlled over 700 bank accounts. In another case a massive HMRC fraud was only uncovered by accident. Both of these concerned amounts in the millions of pounds and the criminals haven't even started on the best ways to generate cash. It's best that I don't give them any clues, though I saw one report that suggested that they were getting there.

Too many systems have become lax and poorly regulated. Job Centres are even promoting jobs that lure jobseekers in to laundering stolen money. Once the criminals learn how to do the clever stuff they won't even bother with this type of fraud. One report I read confidently stated that the criminals couldn't get the information on which to base these frauds, ignoring that they had already demonstrated the week before how easily they could do it.

The simple rule is not to go near websites, companies and systems that are insecure or are infested with criminals. The problem is that people aren't aware just how bad the situation is. They will learn. You have been very fortunate not to learn the hard way.

[email protected]

They are at it again on ebay I have been saved by this site, Thank god. Lots of clues as to why I was so suspicious. IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN IT WILL BE.!!!

eBay item number: 191057213787
Mitsubishi L200 warrior DI-D 47000 miles NO VAT 3,750
Contact the seller: 01913 037879

again told the same old story:

Hello,
The Mitsubishi L200 is still for sale in excellent condition, with no damages or any faults. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £3,750 delivered at my costs.
The deal will go through eBay.
Thank you
Evelyn

Can you tell me when is best to have a look at it.
Do you want paying through paypal on ebay or cash if I was to purchase it.
Are you the registered keeper and owner of it.
Is there any outstanding finance on it.
Thank you

I am the owner, there is no finance oustanding. To start the official transaction please confirm your PayPal email for further instructions.
Thank you
Evelyn

Sorry I don't understand what you mean>?

Due to my location and since view is not an option I agree for a 5-7 days of full inspection period ( after the date you receive the car ). This means that you have 7 days to inspect the car for any damages and decide if you want to keep it or not!
Because I will sign eBay's return policy, your money will be insured by them and you will have the option to reject the deal, only if we go through PayPal as well. If this is the case, you will receive a full refund (money back) from PayPal and I will have to take the car back on my cost!
You can read more about it following the link below:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/contex ... olicy.html

Then they gave me fake email from paypal saying to transfer the funds into this paypal account with endless bull

Bank Name: Metro Bank
Account number: 13619719
Sort code: 23-05-80
Beneficiary Name: M C Mihalcia
*Bacs, CHAPS and Faster Payments are accepted.
Invoice#: 17184431
Subtotal: £3,750.00
Shipping(Free): £0.00
Deposit: £0.00

Bank Account Noted (BW)

Thanks sorry I didn't understand what you ment. I was using an old email account. I'll read through it. Thanks....... Ok I have read the instructions. I need to put the cash into my bank tomorrow then transfer the funds into the PayPal representative bank account assigned for this transaction.

Thanks. I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow.

YEAH I BET YOU DO.... I've rang the bank cancelled everything, rang the police, changed my passwords.

Welcome to Scamwarners nearly-done,

Thank you for updating the information. Please also report this to Action Fraud. http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

Just had the same sequence of events ..... Seemed to good to be true and it was [email protected]

Confirm your PayPal email.... umusthinkimstupid.com

They are currently advertising a 58 reg Raptor quad on eBay in Dundee, reported to eBay but its still listed

Beware!


Cheers

Hi everyone,

Im new here, so hi - and heres an update..

Same Evelyn Hale has now registered the domain name - bandoline.co.uk - registered in Dec 13.

email address for correspondence is [email protected]

Maybe a mistake on their part but they have given the mobile number on Gumtree as 07523 436753. A number which responds to text messages, but as usual they text saying "cant receive calls so please use the email".

And sure as mustard, the ads are springing up about seemingly cheap motors for sale.

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-moto ... to-content

[AlanJones]

Same Evelyn Hale has now registered the domain name - bandoline.co.uk - registered in Dec 13.

email address for correspondence is [email protected]

Hi SnackTeddy, welcome to Scamwarners.

Please could you post an example of an email from that address (including the headers) that proves fraud and it will be reported to its hosts.

Im not really sure what closing down an email address has to gain to be honest... Another day, another £5 domain and they're back where they started...

For reference, the domain bandoline.co.uk is using Googlemail to send and receive emails, seemingly using a catchall to arrive at evelynATbandoline.co.uk - Im assuming the evelynSUFFIX@ allows them to know which motor scam is being referred to in the enquiry.

Heres the mail - bog standard stuff.

"The Volkswagen Caddy is still for sale in excellent condition, with no damages or any faults. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £3,190 delivered at my costs.
The deal will go through eBay and PayPal.
Thank you"