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by elizabeth841 Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:36 pm
This morning, I posted a warning against Robert Evans, after receiving an email that I was the targt of a romance scammer. After reading the emails that I received from the Scam Warners, they reminded me of the emails I used to receive from Robert.
Without verification of the information, I immediately posted my warning against Robert Evans. That was my biggest mistake... I did the harm to an innocent man and his children who treat me like someone very close to them and with the greatest respect.
Only after speaking to Robert's employer in the United States, I realized that I was wrong. Robert's employer confirmed that he knew him for a few years as a very honest and nice man.... It was the same employer that sent Robert on the assignment to Nigeria... The pictures used by Mark West do not resemble Robert Evans at all.
I realized that either only me or both Robert and I, became the victims of an internet scam... Someone had to hack to either mine or his computer to retrieve the emails. Otherwise, how would a total stranger know my email address and my name? Now, I realize that it was a total scam to ruin an innocent man's reputation, especially in the eyes of his children.
Once again, I would like to apologize to Robert and his two, wonderful daughters (different ages than those posted by Mark West).

Ladies, please be sure about what you write. Please verify that you have correct information in order not to harm anybody.

Elizabeth
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by Jillian Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:48 pm
Welcome Elizabeth. Thank you for taking the time to post this information. If you have any emails or email addresses he used for you, please do post them so they will show up in searches.

I've split this post of yours off from the "warning about emails supposedly from ScamWarners" thread as it isn't relevant to that discussion. It is valuable information though, so please do add more about this scammer if you have it. :D

Edit to add: I have found our information on the scammer to whom you are referring. Just noting here, the scammer is profiled on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10057

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by Bankster Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:34 am
Hello Elizabeth

It was me who sent you the original warning and link to the scammer's script. I didn't know what name he was using to scam you at that time; it was you who gave me his name and some of his e-mails after you'd read the scammer's older scripts and discovered that they resemble the e-mails you've received. As you can see in the thread on him, it didn't take long for other parts of his scam script to appear in my mailbox... and there's even more stuff that needs some research before I can publish it.

I would like to walk you through verifying the details of both "Robert"'s employer and his children, if you let me. (If there's no "John", are they perchance named "Gold" and "Diamond"? These are the names the scammer normally uses.) Other than the scammer I don't ask you to blindly believe what I say, but I want to encourage you to take the information I can give you into consideration and draw your own conclusions.
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by GomerPyle Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:53 am
... and to add to what Bankster says, anyone from a dating site who ever asks you for money, is a scammer, no if's and's or but's.

It doesn't matter what they've said before or whether they're liars or not. With that one action they have exposed their true purpose, and you can take for granted that everything they've told you has been a pack of lies and you don't have any obligation to prove to them what they are.

There's no shame in it - a scammer never has any other purpose, and he doesn't judge you by any other measure than your ability to pay. He'll steal your money even if you're a model from the front page of Vogue magazine. He's not after love, companionship, romance or sex - it's your money he wants.

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Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Dotti Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:59 am
Elizabeth,

I know I read your original post, but was dealing with some personal issues myself over the weekend, and I will be honest and say that I really don't remember the details of this situation very well.

However, as soon as I see this statement below, I am very concerned:

Only after speaking to Robert's employer in the United States, I realized that I was wrong.


I have seen it way too many times. While there have been a few occasions in which someone has falsely accused someone (and any wrong accusations can and will be removed from this forum--I have removed posts myself), this scenario screams "scammer". Did "Robert Evans" learn he was posted here, become very upset and offended, claim he was a victim, and give you his employer's number so you could "see that he is real," perhaps?

I have seen many cases in which a scammer losing a victim from his grasp turned the situation around to play the role of the victim himself. It is extremely common for a scammer to claim he is innocent and was hacked, and even to provide some kind of reference. Whether the scammer provides a supposed employer, parent, friend, or even child reference, it is part of the scam! The "reference" is either the scammer himself, an accomplice, or sometimes even a victim who has been given a plausible story as to why he/she should play along with the scammer's claims. Scammers use guilt and manipulation to get what they want. They often use tactics such as emailing victims pretending to be young children, at times even putting real small children (often not their own) on the phone to make the victim feel guilty for suspecting them.

If this person has asked for money; if he has asked for items such as laptops or phones; if he has asked you to handle money (checks, credit cards, bank transfers, or western union); or if he has even hinted to you that he needs you to help him out, then I will tell you there is NO DOUBT he is a scammer. Since scammers make a living stealing money this way, they are often quite good at it. Sometimes victims believe that they must be real because they so vehemently protest their innocence, or because they provide this new "reference" or simply because they find it hard to believe that anyone would carry a lie that far just to steal money. Unfortunately, they can and they will do it, and I have seen it more times than I can count.

Since you are probably not ready to post more information on an open forum, I am asking for your own sake that you consider reviewing this with someone offline. Please consider Bankster's offer to work through the verification, or if you are not comfortable with that, I (or another member of the support staff) would be happy to work through some key verifications offline. If it turns out that this person is not a scammer, I will gladly remove any posts regarding him. Please feel free to send a private message if you would like to do that.

If you have read our introduction thread here at SW, you will realize that we are not paid staff, but all of us are volunteers. Different people arrived here for different reasons, but ultimately we all came here because we care about preventing people from being hurt by these scammers. Right now, I personally am concerned because I see a situation which suggests that you are likely to be hurt by a particularly well-organized and creative scammer.

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