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by mazaroni Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:00 pm
I just want to warn others that I had recently been scammed by this website called E-Sellinc.com (and sometimes use their other name Mobile World Ltd, both of which have identical websites) which claims to sell mobile phones, Apple products, among other things.

I'd like to add that the company also goes by the following names: E-Sell, E-sellinc, E- sell, Mobile World LTD (mobileworldlimited.com) and all their permutations.

The names they have been using in their correspondences include: Jiayu Chung, Sandra Wilson or Peter Larry

They made me part with $1610 for some Apple iPad's but failed to deliver their goods. They even had the audacity to ask me for more payment on the pretext that my goods had been confiscated by the customs and need me to make the payment to get my goods.

I have since made a police report and doing all I can to tell everyone out there to NOT deal with these folks. Their scam is elaborate and they may ask you to transfer money to a 3rd party's bank account and then get that unsuspecting person to wire it to their acct via wire services like Bank Wire, AlertPay, Money Gram, Liberty Reserve and Western Union, on the pretext that it was a mistake.

These folks are PROs and they even have manned phone lines, based in the US and the UK. The phone numbers are +1714-202-9371 & +44702-402-5892

PLEASE BEWARE and don't be another victim. But if you have been scammed like me, do come forward to report to the Police so that they will put more resources into this. Every victim should also go to every online space to report this to make sure we shut them down, one way or another.
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by GomerPyle Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:58 pm
Thanks for your post mazaroni and I'm sorry that you got snagged by these scammers.

We already have a few threads on this gang, and this is the latest one.

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10759

I wasn't aware of some of the alternative names you have mentioned, and the more widespread we can post warnings, the more we can help others not to lose money to them.

I'll make some more searches to see if I can trace any more.

From other postings on the internet it looks as if they have been quite successful. :twisted:

It's worthwhile making a police report if you have made payment to an actual bank account. Whether the recipient is an innocent dupe or not, they have committed a criminal offence (in most countries) in receiving/laundering stolen funds, and if their account is used on the website, then they could easily be deemed to be a participant in the scam. If they had received my money I wouldn't personally feel a great deal of sympathy for them and in any circumstance, the sooner they are stopped from facilitating payment, the sooner the scam will stop.

That's a bit of a giveaway. My login and password from Mobile World Ltd works on the E Sell Inc website. :shock:

The site doesn't include bank details for making a wire payment any more. You have to apply, so I've applied. :D

For making a cash deposit in Singapore, these are the details

Once you've provided payment, your order will be completed. The outstanding balance of your order is $640.00 USD. Instructions on how to pay for your order are shown below:

For Local Bank Deposit in Singapore, payment can be made using the ATM or Local Bank Deposit

Payment can be made via our Local Bank deposit to in Singapore using the details below

Account Name: chen meiting
Account Number: 030-24169-0
DBS Bank.


Once payment is made, do send us an email with your payment details to enable us process your payment

You should contact Billing Department via [email protected] or send an email from your email client in your account for bank details.

All orders are shipped within 24-48 hours after payment is verified by the billing department.


I've highlighted an error they've made in copying the original scam site across to the new one. :roll:

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by GomerPyle Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:48 am
I have done some more research on this scammer or group of scammers.

They're been operating at least as far back as 2006/7 and have recently developed the fully operational storefront website, which we now see they can re-issue under new company names, making them quite dangerous as regards tracking down their frequently changing names.

They spam out their adverts on an industrial scale, from the Far East to the USA, not excluding Europe and the Middle East. Their criminal operation alone makes it very risky to respond to any online electronics advert that you aren't fully satisfied is genuine, from a reputable source.

Certainly they began work in Nigeria, though may have moved to the Far East more recently.

The most effective way to combat this operation is to take away use of the bank accounts they use to launder scammed funds through. The likelihood is that these are mules, though may indicate where they are now based. Meanwhile if their new scam websites are reported here, then a least people who Google for information can be warned before they lose money.

Another thing I have noted is that the scam isn't progressive, in that new websites don't replace old ones. They tend to recycle old websites again and again which makes me think that this is a 'disorganised' scam, basically focused on extracting cash.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by bobby_20089 Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am
Hi I have recently ordered goods worth 900USD from E-sellinic.I made payement via PAYPAL.
They are contionously delaying my shipment and I was said it would be shipped out this friday.
Can I belive them?Or is it a scam?
If it is a scam can I recover my money??
by Flightful Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:13 am
If you used Paypal you should be able to recover your money, and if they get a lot of complaints they'll shut down the website's merchant account.
by GomerPyle Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:44 am
If you check their website

http://www.e-sellinc.com/pages.php?pageid=4

they say

E sell is one of the largest and most comprehensive online shopping networks on the web


They also say here

http://www.e-sellinc.com/pages.php?pageid=7

Store Address

UK: 4 Winterstoke Gardens, Mill hill, London, NW7 2RA

Registered No: 05295305


Companies House - the official UK government register of companies here

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/6e0052c19340d06de391bbcff40dcdd0/compdetails

says this about the company

Name & Registered Office:
E SELL IT LIMITED
4 WINTERSTOKE GARDENS
MILL HILL
LONDON
NW7 2RA
Company No. 05295305

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 24/11/2004

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
5250 - Retail second-hand goods in stores
Accounting Reference Date: 30/04
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/11/2008 (DORMANT)
Next Accounts Due: 31/01/2011
Last Return Made Up To: 23/11/2009
Next Return Due: 21/12/2010


The website you purchased goods through is an imposter and fake. The real company is officially registered as being 'dormant' so cannot be who you dealt with, apart from the fact that the real company, when they were trading, dealt in second hand goods, not new goods.

I hope this information will help you to get your money back bobby_20089.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by tonyh01 Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:46 am
I am the owner of E SELL IT Ltd at the the London address shown.

Let me assure you that I or the company have nothing to do with this scammer and I assume that they just added my address (and I assume the other worldwide addresses) to add credibility.
by GomerPyle Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:12 am
I mentioned that the scammers were imposters tonyh01 and am happy to re-emphasise that the scammers have nothing to do with the legitimate company registered at Company's House.

It is one way that we can tell that it's the same group at work because it is a signature feature of their scams that they masquerade as a company that already exists. I have two previous examples, and one of those happened to be a charity, but happened to have the name 'Apple' in their title, so the scammers found it useful.

This type of scam hurts people who lose money to the scammers and also legitimate traders who have their company name used fraudulently.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by bobby_20089 Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:59 pm
I have file a dispute with paypal and waiting for my refund Thanks a lot for all your help.
Phone Ltd
Unit 1
The Rubicon, 51 Norman Road
London, Greater London SE10 9QB
United Kingdom
Registration no: : 05679130

Is this also a scam since they are asking to transfer money to their account via WESTERN UNION.
But I said it is risky for me.
So they said to transfer it to any of my cousins name and send them the transaction details
MTCN No
Senders name
recievers name
Is this also a scam ?
by Dotti Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:17 am
Yes, it's a scam!

It is actually quite easy to pick up money that was not sent to you if you have the transaction details. The scammer plans to use those details to pick up your money and then disappear. If you look at the rental scams section of the forums, you will see a very large number of scammers who use the exact same technique (ask the victim to send money to their own family, then come along and steal it).

You should never use Western Union or Moneygram to send money to anyone except your close friends and family--and if you ever use those services for that reason, keep the details of your transaction secure.

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by Arnold Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:41 am
bobby_20089 wrote:So they said to transfer it to any of my cousins name and send them the transaction

Scammers claimirng to rent property ask victims to do that as proof they have the money to pay the rent. Which does sound reasonable, if you don't know how insecure Western Union is if a third party has the details. It makes no sense at all as a method of paying for something.
Registration no: : 05679130 belongs to Phoine Ltd, who are steel specialists. The scammer is fraudulently using its name but misspelled it to suggest they sell phones etc.
How did you hear of them and can you post the whole email please?

by bobby_20089 Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:10 am
Thanks for the help.I saw an ad in some classifieds in tradekey site and gave my details then i got a phone call from them they emailed me next day
"Thanks for the mail sent...

We have the Apple iPhone 4 and they are all brand new unlocked phones with 1 year international warranty and 90 days return policy.

The iPhone 4 32gb cost 400euro including shipment to your doorstep.

You will get 1 free unit for every 3 units you buy.

We are located in United Kingdom.

We will ship via the Dhl courier service company and it will take only 2 working days to arrive your doorstep.

This is my company address:

Phone Ltd
Unit 1
The Rubicon, 51 Norman Road
London, Greater London SE10 9QB
United Kingdom
Registration no: : 05679130

How many do you want to buy?

Await your mail with your full order so we can proceed as soon as possible."

And when I asked them about their company site
"Thanks for the mail..

Our website is currently underconstruction and wil be available by the end of next month.

We are sorry for any inconvenience.

Regards.





Subject: Re: Regarding Iphone4
To: "Jason Hudson" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 11:18 AM"


Then I asked them whether the payement can be made directly to the store in person to that he replied saying fin the first deal they dont acept direct payement
by bobby_20089 Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:11 am
Thanks for the help.I saw an ad in some classifieds in tradekey site and gave my details then i got a phone call from them they emailed me next day
"Thanks for the mail sent...

We have the Apple iPhone 4 and they are all brand new unlocked phones with 1 year international warranty and 90 days return policy.

The iPhone 4 32gb cost 400euro including shipment to your doorstep.

You will get 1 free unit for every 3 units you buy.

We are located in United Kingdom.

We will ship via the Dhl courier service company and it will take only 2 working days to arrive your doorstep.

This is my company address:

Phone Ltd
Unit 1
The Rubicon, 51 Norman Road
London, Greater London SE10 9QB
United Kingdom
Registration no: : 05679130

How many do you want to buy?

Await your mail with your full order so we can proceed as soon as possible."

And when I asked them about their company site
"Thanks for the mail..

Our website is currently underconstruction and wil be available by the end of next month.

We are sorry for any inconvenience.

Regards.





Subject: Re: Regarding Iphone4
To: "Jason Hudson" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 11:18 AM"


Then I asked them whether the payement can be made directly to the store in person to that he replied saying fin the first deal they dont acept direct payement
by bobby_20089 Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:12 am
I have filed a dispute against esell in Paypal and also escalated the claim.
What are my chances of getting a refund?

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