by FrackTheScammers
Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:21 pm
Here's my scammer story. Luckily I realised it was a scam before I lost any money, but I am still upset at the waste of time and the fact I lost the opportunity to rent out my room because I stopped looking after I thought I found my renter.
I am a student going away for holiday for two months over summer break and I have advertised my room in a share house in Australia on the local University website.
A student claiming to be from the UK (with a very anglo-saxon British sounding name) replied to my add saying she was coming to my University for summer school and was looking for a place to stay. She asked about the room and the flat mates, said a bit about herself and asked about what was included and how far the accommodation is from all the relevant amenities.
So far, the English was sophisticated and the story seemed plausible, so I had no reason to suspect anything. She said she wanted to see the place on Google Maps and wanted the address of the house with the room I'm renting so I emailed my address to her.
She wrote back with a few more questions obviously "she" had looked at the place on google and looked up a few things about the city in which I live. I answered the questions and I said I need a deposit of A$900 to secure the room, I asked for a Western Union transfer to me. She said she didn't want to send Western Union because she can only just afford the plane ticket and the room and can't afford to also pay the transfer fees. She said her father had a friend in Australia who could mail me a cheque from an Australian Account - could her father's friend mail me a cheque for the deposit to the address I'd already given her?
At this point it sounds a little weird but I guess she might be worried I'm a scammer and I don't actually have any room for her to rent. From the beginning it was always my intention to rent to someone local who could actually come and inspect the room and meet my flatmates and pay a deposit in cash or use the escrow service at the University. Anyway I've given her my address already and I'm half way sure that she's going to be the one to rent my room so I reply "yes - mail me the cheque to the address I'd given earlier, as long as the money clears I'll keep holding the room for you."
A week goes by and I don't have my cheque and the date I need to go on holiday is fast approaching, so I email back - "I haven't got your deposit so I'm showing my room to other potential renters."
I get a reply back from a new email address - "This is Portias dad, Portias mother is sick and her departure to Australia is delayed as she sits by her bed praying to God for His mercy for her ful recovery, please be understanding of our difficult time, my friend has sent you a cheque you should be getting soon, god bless you support you are wonderful person, im so happy that you are kind to my daughter she will be the best to share your virtuous house she is the jewel every family would be proud god bless. You cant lose any rent holding the accommodation, i m paying the rent starting the first day you are holding the room for my daughter. She is a dream to every family i m so proud of her, her bond is in the post already, the money was sent to you from regular mail.Send a receipt when you receive the money. Zephaniah"
By now I think things are really weird and I doubt very much that the father of a girl from UK with a very British family name would have an obscure biblical prophet as a first name and such bad English. But now its too late I've gone on holiday already and I didn't manage to rent my room to anybody else and I have to continue to pay rent for my room while I'm on holiday. So I figure I'd wait and see if any money actually shows up - maybe they are for real, maybe they are just a simultaneously unlucky and abnormal family.
A few days into my trip I get an email from my house mate, I've received a letter at my house from Maria Broughton. I tell my flat mate to open it,he says its a cheque for A$3000 from an Australian bank, with no letter or explanation with the cheque. I think this is pretty cool, they were legitimate after all, I'll get my deposit of $900 plus I can deduct the rent for the whole holding period and my whole holiday! About the same time I receive an email from Zephariah asking if I've got the cheque. I reply yes I got the cheque for $3000, less deposit less three weeks holding the room. So balance of A$1,650. I tell him I can give the balance to Portia as cash when she arrives or else I'll continue to deduct the rent from it each week as I continue to hold the room awaiting the arrival of Portia.
A cheque at my house is not much good to me while I'm on holiday, so I give my bank account number to my flatmate (its OK I trust him) and he fills out a deposit slip at my bank and deposits the cheque on my behalf.
Now, I get an email from Zephariah saying that the friend (Maria White) sent too much money by accident and the friend was supposed to send me $1000 and $2000 was supposed to go to Portia in London. Now Portia is stuck in London and cant get to Australia to rent the room unless I send her the $2000 by Western Union and he gives instructions on how to send a Western Union Money transfer but I need to make out the name of the Western Union transfer to yet another name - someone who is supposed to be Portia's travel agent
First up there's no way I'm sending any money until the cheque clears. I do some googling and find this site and learn that sometimes if the cheque is a forgery it can still clear, but later on when the fraud is investigated the bank takes the money back out of your account... So I give up on the plan of waiting to see if the cheque clears... Instead, now that my suspicions are tweaked I search the email header and I discover the IP addresses of both Pamela and her father are both from Lagos Nigeria (not that this is proof in and of itself) but they said they were in the UK and they asked for money by Western Union so now I am positive its a scam. (From now on I'm checking email headers and IP addresses from anyone who sends me an email I don't already know well).
Next step is to contact my bank and tell the story, they said "no problems thanks for reporting as soon as you found out" - the bank later told me the cheque was a forgery.
I also asked my flatmate to look at the envelope the cheque came in, it had a name and address on the back from australia that matched the name on the cheque. However the not very observant flatmate didn't notice until now that the stamp was from Benin.
I've since got an email from Zephariah "Update me about the last mail i sent you regarding the money you received."
So obviously it was a scam averted. Now I would invite the forums advice on a few questions:
This guy has my real name, real address and my email and I don't want to have to change any of these unless its really necessary. I'd like to discourage this guy from using my details in the future. I can imagine his next scammee might get a check purportedly from me and my real address.
My next step is to make him lose interest in me, but I'd also like to do something to minimise the chances he will want to use my name and address in the future.
If he didn't already have my address I wouldn't hesitate to do any of the following things, but since he does, might there be any benefit in scaring him or scamming him back?
1. If I said the bank contacted me and have traced his emails and the FBI / Nigerian Police / Australian Federal Police are after him - is there any chance this could scare him into not using his aliases anymore.
2. Could it be the only record he keeps of my details are in the saved mails on his Ymail account, if so would it be worth hacking his email or flooding his email so he would abandon that email address and be unable to check my address?
3. Is it worth taking a chance that he's stupid and tell him I've moved address and give a new fake address and hope he might delete my real address details and update with the new fake address details?
4. Is it worth telling him the bank or the australian police wants to help him recovery his money that has been stolen from him by the friend (Maria). The australian federal police also have recovered another $345000 from Maria and want to find the rightful owners and return the money to the rightful owners. All he has to do is send me copies of his passport and proof of address and he can western union me the $1000 for the application fee?
5. Should I tell him 4 above, except give the contact details for the Australian Police?
6. I'm also thinking of ignoring him, fully expecting him to persist with more and more emails getting more and more desperate then angry asking for the refund. But the more time this guy spends on me I figure the more he is going to feel like he deserves a pay off and the more likely he might become to be malicious towards my identity - I imagine if he got pissed off he might try to hack or flood my email or maybe sign me up to stuff I dont want using my name and address. Has this sort of thing ever happened to anyone before?
7. I'd like for my story to be helpful in warning others from falling victim. But I have deliberately withheld all identifying features from the story, so that Mr Zephariah doesn't know I'm on to him - at least until I decide what to do next. Is it likely that the email addresses used for this scam is unique to their attempted scam of me or would he be trying to scam others with the same email? I ask this question because if he finds his email is blacklisted or SPAM'd or whatever I might try to do or others might try to do if I publish his email then if he has only created this email address to scam me, then he will know that I have been the one who has blacklisted him... like I said he does have my real address, and many of the posts I have read here warn not to publish identifying details of yourself because you dont want to receive threats from people who know who and where you are...
Thanks for a great site and great community to make it all happen, and thanks in advance for your answers...
I am a student going away for holiday for two months over summer break and I have advertised my room in a share house in Australia on the local University website.
A student claiming to be from the UK (with a very anglo-saxon British sounding name) replied to my add saying she was coming to my University for summer school and was looking for a place to stay. She asked about the room and the flat mates, said a bit about herself and asked about what was included and how far the accommodation is from all the relevant amenities.
So far, the English was sophisticated and the story seemed plausible, so I had no reason to suspect anything. She said she wanted to see the place on Google Maps and wanted the address of the house with the room I'm renting so I emailed my address to her.
She wrote back with a few more questions obviously "she" had looked at the place on google and looked up a few things about the city in which I live. I answered the questions and I said I need a deposit of A$900 to secure the room, I asked for a Western Union transfer to me. She said she didn't want to send Western Union because she can only just afford the plane ticket and the room and can't afford to also pay the transfer fees. She said her father had a friend in Australia who could mail me a cheque from an Australian Account - could her father's friend mail me a cheque for the deposit to the address I'd already given her?
At this point it sounds a little weird but I guess she might be worried I'm a scammer and I don't actually have any room for her to rent. From the beginning it was always my intention to rent to someone local who could actually come and inspect the room and meet my flatmates and pay a deposit in cash or use the escrow service at the University. Anyway I've given her my address already and I'm half way sure that she's going to be the one to rent my room so I reply "yes - mail me the cheque to the address I'd given earlier, as long as the money clears I'll keep holding the room for you."
A week goes by and I don't have my cheque and the date I need to go on holiday is fast approaching, so I email back - "I haven't got your deposit so I'm showing my room to other potential renters."
I get a reply back from a new email address - "This is Portias dad, Portias mother is sick and her departure to Australia is delayed as she sits by her bed praying to God for His mercy for her ful recovery, please be understanding of our difficult time, my friend has sent you a cheque you should be getting soon, god bless you support you are wonderful person, im so happy that you are kind to my daughter she will be the best to share your virtuous house she is the jewel every family would be proud god bless. You cant lose any rent holding the accommodation, i m paying the rent starting the first day you are holding the room for my daughter. She is a dream to every family i m so proud of her, her bond is in the post already, the money was sent to you from regular mail.Send a receipt when you receive the money. Zephaniah"
By now I think things are really weird and I doubt very much that the father of a girl from UK with a very British family name would have an obscure biblical prophet as a first name and such bad English. But now its too late I've gone on holiday already and I didn't manage to rent my room to anybody else and I have to continue to pay rent for my room while I'm on holiday. So I figure I'd wait and see if any money actually shows up - maybe they are for real, maybe they are just a simultaneously unlucky and abnormal family.
A few days into my trip I get an email from my house mate, I've received a letter at my house from Maria Broughton. I tell my flat mate to open it,he says its a cheque for A$3000 from an Australian bank, with no letter or explanation with the cheque. I think this is pretty cool, they were legitimate after all, I'll get my deposit of $900 plus I can deduct the rent for the whole holding period and my whole holiday! About the same time I receive an email from Zephariah asking if I've got the cheque. I reply yes I got the cheque for $3000, less deposit less three weeks holding the room. So balance of A$1,650. I tell him I can give the balance to Portia as cash when she arrives or else I'll continue to deduct the rent from it each week as I continue to hold the room awaiting the arrival of Portia.
A cheque at my house is not much good to me while I'm on holiday, so I give my bank account number to my flatmate (its OK I trust him) and he fills out a deposit slip at my bank and deposits the cheque on my behalf.
Now, I get an email from Zephariah saying that the friend (Maria White) sent too much money by accident and the friend was supposed to send me $1000 and $2000 was supposed to go to Portia in London. Now Portia is stuck in London and cant get to Australia to rent the room unless I send her the $2000 by Western Union and he gives instructions on how to send a Western Union Money transfer but I need to make out the name of the Western Union transfer to yet another name - someone who is supposed to be Portia's travel agent
First up there's no way I'm sending any money until the cheque clears. I do some googling and find this site and learn that sometimes if the cheque is a forgery it can still clear, but later on when the fraud is investigated the bank takes the money back out of your account... So I give up on the plan of waiting to see if the cheque clears... Instead, now that my suspicions are tweaked I search the email header and I discover the IP addresses of both Pamela and her father are both from Lagos Nigeria (not that this is proof in and of itself) but they said they were in the UK and they asked for money by Western Union so now I am positive its a scam. (From now on I'm checking email headers and IP addresses from anyone who sends me an email I don't already know well).
Next step is to contact my bank and tell the story, they said "no problems thanks for reporting as soon as you found out" - the bank later told me the cheque was a forgery.
I also asked my flatmate to look at the envelope the cheque came in, it had a name and address on the back from australia that matched the name on the cheque. However the not very observant flatmate didn't notice until now that the stamp was from Benin.
I've since got an email from Zephariah "Update me about the last mail i sent you regarding the money you received."
So obviously it was a scam averted. Now I would invite the forums advice on a few questions:
This guy has my real name, real address and my email and I don't want to have to change any of these unless its really necessary. I'd like to discourage this guy from using my details in the future. I can imagine his next scammee might get a check purportedly from me and my real address.
My next step is to make him lose interest in me, but I'd also like to do something to minimise the chances he will want to use my name and address in the future.
If he didn't already have my address I wouldn't hesitate to do any of the following things, but since he does, might there be any benefit in scaring him or scamming him back?
1. If I said the bank contacted me and have traced his emails and the FBI / Nigerian Police / Australian Federal Police are after him - is there any chance this could scare him into not using his aliases anymore.
2. Could it be the only record he keeps of my details are in the saved mails on his Ymail account, if so would it be worth hacking his email or flooding his email so he would abandon that email address and be unable to check my address?
3. Is it worth taking a chance that he's stupid and tell him I've moved address and give a new fake address and hope he might delete my real address details and update with the new fake address details?
4. Is it worth telling him the bank or the australian police wants to help him recovery his money that has been stolen from him by the friend (Maria). The australian federal police also have recovered another $345000 from Maria and want to find the rightful owners and return the money to the rightful owners. All he has to do is send me copies of his passport and proof of address and he can western union me the $1000 for the application fee?
5. Should I tell him 4 above, except give the contact details for the Australian Police?
6. I'm also thinking of ignoring him, fully expecting him to persist with more and more emails getting more and more desperate then angry asking for the refund. But the more time this guy spends on me I figure the more he is going to feel like he deserves a pay off and the more likely he might become to be malicious towards my identity - I imagine if he got pissed off he might try to hack or flood my email or maybe sign me up to stuff I dont want using my name and address. Has this sort of thing ever happened to anyone before?
7. I'd like for my story to be helpful in warning others from falling victim. But I have deliberately withheld all identifying features from the story, so that Mr Zephariah doesn't know I'm on to him - at least until I decide what to do next. Is it likely that the email addresses used for this scam is unique to their attempted scam of me or would he be trying to scam others with the same email? I ask this question because if he finds his email is blacklisted or SPAM'd or whatever I might try to do or others might try to do if I publish his email then if he has only created this email address to scam me, then he will know that I have been the one who has blacklisted him... like I said he does have my real address, and many of the posts I have read here warn not to publish identifying details of yourself because you dont want to receive threats from people who know who and where you are...
Thanks for a great site and great community to make it all happen, and thanks in advance for your answers...