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by Anahata Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:15 am
Greeting, I just wrote a whole page of information and lost it.
My story starts with a soldier named Willis McDonald from Henning MN. He claims to be Special Forces in Iraq. A single father with a 12 year old son, who he has custody of after his wife cheated on him. This son James lives with his sister. He finally sent me four pictures, which if someone knows how to retrieve them from my hard drive I’d be happy to post them here. I wish the soldier that belongs to these pics could be alerted that someone is using his pictures to scam people. I’ll get back to the pictures later and why they also tipped me off.
I have a Private setting on my face book, so I was very surprised that a James Schwin and he had contacted me. I found that it was through a friend in the UK and he probably went through her friends and found me. She was also contacted through a friend that was engaged to a soldier in Iraq. The story is just like the others. He wanted $200 for a SAT PHONE, then as time went on he wanted money for Leave. I never gave him money thank God. I question him about sounding so much like my friends gut, both from the same town and having custody of a son that lives with a sister. I he brushed me off. I thought I could find the money for the phone and told him. He then said he found out that he need 400 pounds I think he said. I asked why pounds and he said I lived in the UK, so that’s how much it will cost. I asked him to tell me where I lived because it was not the uk. He said that he was sorry, that things were so bad over there and he had brain fog. It took him several times before he could tell me what state I lived in. I got suspicious and stated Googling to find these scams were out there. I only trusted him because it came through my friend. Anyhoo, I decided that I did not want to trust the information online and called the Army. The Sergeant I spoke to told me this was a scam, cellphone can be purchased with prepaid for 5cent a minute, Leave is free, etc. So I left a very confronting IM. I didn’t think I’d hear from him after that point, but he IM me. I thought maybe this guy is real, I told him we could continue to communicate but he would not get a penny from me. I asked him to send me some phots and a picture along with it of him sticking his finger in his ear. If all the pictures matched, then I knew he was real. The next day I received 4 pictures, three of him and one of him with his son but not one with the finger in his ear. The kicker of the picture of him and his son, no way has this young man 12 or even American. My best guess is the young man is someone that this soldier had befriended over there. So I had his IP tacked and sure enough it is in Nigeria. I sent him that information and he still tried to tell me he was for rel. My friend tried to tell me it was possible as there are soldier over there because of oil. There is no way this guy or her guy is real. She has already paid for him to come home and thinks see bought him out of his contract.
I have blocked him from my Hotmail and deled my account on Yahoo so that he can’t email me or IM me. I feel so lucky I figured things out before I got taken. I feel awful as I am certain my friend will be finding out that he is not here coming the end of June. Wish I was wrong.
Again, I now there is a way to relieve from the hard drive. If someone could help me to do so, I’ll post the pictures. I want to warn other woman and maybe the soldier will see them and can do something.
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by Dotti Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:41 pm
Welcome Anahata,

I'm sorry to hear that you had to learn the hard way about these scammers, but glad that at least he did not succeed in stealing your money. What you are describing is textbook scammer approach.

I didn’t think I’d hear from him after that point, but he IM me. I thought maybe this guy is real, I told him we could continue to communicate but he would not get a penny from me.


This is very typical of these scammers. Unfortunately, this tactic works way too often. Just like you initially responded, many victims just can't understand that a scammer would hold on to a lie, especially after being told they won't get any money. They also believe that nobody could be cruel enough or deceptive enough to continue to lie after they have been revealed, or they believe that a scammer wouldn't be in contact after being told he is not going to get money.

It is important to understand that to the scammer, this is not a relationship. It is a business transaction. He does not see the victim as a person. He sees her as a maga (fool) who can be manipulated to give him what he wants. Whether he is highly attentive and sending romantic poetry (stolen, of course), or protesting his innocence and making the victim feel guilty for doubting him, to him, he is simply using the words and techniques that he believes has the best chance of convincing the victim to part with her money.

The scammer has already invested time in trying to create the illusion of a relationship, and based on what you said here:

I thought I could find the money for the phone and told him.


he determined that you have potential as a victim, i.e., you have basically told him that you can be convinced to send money to a stranger. Chances are, he has been told many times before that a victim would not send money, but in the end, he succeeded in getting them to change their minds. He believes that even though you said you won't send any money, if he plays his cards right, he can change that, and ultimately convince you to send the money. If he admits to being a scammer, he has wasted that time he already spent, but if he keeps going, he still has a chance. So he denies being a scammer, and continues to pretend to be a soldier. He will be patient for a time-he will be very romantic and make sure he doesn't ask for money, until he believes that you are fully convinced he is real. This could take days, weeks, or even months when it is a skilled scammer. Then, he will go right back to the scam. It may be an accident or medical emergency, or a problem with the (fake) child, or another military excuse, but the money request will come. Or, he may ask you to deposit a check for him (it will be fake) and send him the money, or he will ask you to receive and forward merchandise (which will be purchased with a stolen credit card.)

As you now realize, the scammer is not the man in the photos. He has stolen photos of the real soldier off the internet, possibly from a real facebook or myspace page. The real soldier may already know of the scammer, because this has become extremely common, and many soldiers are now aware of the scams. But, unfortunately, there is nothing he can do either way, because the scammer has saved his photos, and there is no way to take them back.

You can help even more by posting the scammer's email address and some of the emails or messages he sent you, especially the early ones, and the ones around the money request (remove your personal information first, if there is any). These are important because they are the scammer's script, and it is very possible the scammer will reuse these, even after he changes names and/or photos.

Unfortunately, you are right about your friend. She is involved in another romance scam, and no soldier will be arriving in June or at any other time. If you can convince her to look over some of the information here, it may help her to recognize the reality of the situation.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Anahata Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:40 am
I feel very lucky indeed although I feel post-traumatic. Just trying to go back to facebook and copying some of IM, really bothered me. I deleted my account, I created so I could IM with hime here. He was real insistant to go to Yahoo to IM.

As you will see, there is a lot of "canned" responses. I even called him on that. He was a bit aggressive in getting information about me and I even called him on that. the following is just a bit of what he IM from [email protected]:

hi,how are you doing?i wish to know you cos i like your profile.
i am a friend to who she is in a relationship with,. how are you really dong.??
am donig cool..i have a son 12years old but he lives in state with my sisster...can you send me yourIM SO We cantalk better
i mean your yahoo id
oh ok
can we be talking on here?
are you working now?
ohh ok,,,tell me bou your personality?
oohh good
am a trustworthy person who hate lies
what do you want in relationship?
ok
How else would you act if you finally found your soul mate?
yup
oohhh ok
i like it babe
What hurtful things did your partner do in the relationship before that? ( this was an odd question because I never implied any bad with any past relationship)
your last ex
oohh ok
what makes u tick relax and okay now?
oohh ok
what are your plan now?
oohh good
yup babe
how do you relax?
Spend as much time together as possible. When it's true love, you can't bear to let your partner out of your sight...do u believe??
ohh ok babe
i love chatting
but how else would you act if you finally found your soul mate?
ok
oohhh ok...
i will like to know you more
i love when talking to ypou babe
tell me the name i will call you babe
can i call you babe, hun sweetie,, darling,, lol
call me willis
ohh
ohh good babe
tell me the name of your children?
oohh ok..my son name jjames
what are you upto now?
forget bouyour life, your friends, your self-care. When you have a soul mate, why would you need a life outside of the relationship?


I hope this helps someone out there!
by Anahata Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:07 pm
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by Anahata Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:22 pm
I can not find on my hard drive the pics of Willis McDonald but I have saved those that might be related. I can't post their pics and usernames untill I know it is true for them. My friend was already at this site months ago and she will not have contact with me. I explain that maybe I am wrong about her guy and wish her happiness, but she is not responding. Just like Willis told me not to talk to her.

Hunny, if you are out there looking in..I am so sorry but this is truth.
by jolly_roger Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:41 am
Thanks for posting the header. One of the things visible from the header is the nnfmp after the Received from: lines. This usually is an indication the sender is not the real deal. Also if you look through the forums, the email you received is typical scam material, whereby you are asked to purchase a phone etc. There are many soldier/ sat phone scams littered throughout the forums.
I'm glad your suspicion led you here.
by Anahata Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:06 pm
Well, he tried to come back and I played for awhile till I could get some type of pic. I asked him to prove himself by sending me a pic of him with him sticking his finger in his ear. He did..but it was the worse Photo Shop fake ever. If someone can tell me how to upload it, I will. The face is that of this poor guy, put on another body and slapped onto a background. The man's face is the one that was stolen and I thought to be Willis.

I played for 2 days. All he could do was declare his love for me and did not want to engage in converstaion. Finally I got so sick of it, especially when he stated to mentionmoney again. He said it was different for him because he was in the special forces. I told him I talked to Fort Mccoy and then he accused me again that this guy loves me or that I loved him. Then he said that he was crying and that he would risk his life and show me his cam. Right, a picture of a guy that wasn't even near that of the other man. But he kept on, after me telling him I know the pic was a fake and that he would never get a penny from me. Wow!

I think he has been scamming my friend in UK and her friend as well. Her friend has a pic on her FB withthis guy holding a sign saying that it was really him. The writing was computer generated.

I don't want to release those pictures as they are not my story to tell but I would like to post this Photo Shop Pic of Willis. maybe it will save another woman from being scammed and maybe the real Willis will seeit and get his pics off the internet.

Thanks for any help you can give me.
by Anahata Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:18 am
This one is when I asked him to send me a pic of him sticking his finger in his ear. Really bad Photo Shop pic. The face is his, only darker but that's all that is his.

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Is still on FB http://www.facebook.com/search/results. ... ald.willis and it doesn't even look lke any of the other pictures I use to have. Yahoo was [email protected]

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Wish I could have had other pictures he used. One was a solider in patrol with face covered and drinking from something and one of a soldier lying under a tank.He also had one of him grilling, there was an unusual tatoo on his left calf and another picture of his with a child thathe said was his (his is the pic I think they took for the Photo Shop fake). The boy does not look American and not 12 y/o. I wish I would have kept these. I'm trying to get as much out as possible.

edit by dotti: replaced URL tags with image tags so pictures would show.
by Anahata Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:58 am
FB addy doesn't appear to work. He is under mcdonald willis and it shows a profile pic of a guy in patrol.
by garystavert Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:08 pm
look out for another this person goes by sgt cherry koons and on badoo as cherish a combat nurse
by didntgetscammed Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:06 pm
Fortunatly, I didn't get scammed. This one is [email protected]. Sgt Kevin James. Different pictures but same guy. I chatted with him, just to be nice. Listened to his "sob" story and really didn't believe any of it. When he asked me for a care package I said sure. He needed white t-shirts, shower gel, towel, digital camera, something to send messages to me on because he was using his commanders lap-top. I told him I needed an address to send it to. Did receive an e-mail from someone that was supposedly delivering care packages to the troops. I deleted that e-mail address. I knew it was a scam, but still played along. When he told me he loved me and wanted to marry me I told him he needed to find someone else, because I'm not the one for him. His typing and English was a little off. He got nothing from me and I've blocked him.

He contacted me through Match.com
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